Nothing about this is a protest. (NSFW Racial Expletives)

[RonD1120 62]

2 minutes ago, wmw999 said:

So, are you saying that they would not have obeyed an Obama command as unthinkingly as they might obey a Trump command?

BHO was president when I posed the question. The point is professional soldiers follow orders and they protect their buddies in the conflict.

[gowlerk 2,275]

22 minutes ago, RonD1120 said:

I posed that question awhile back to my Delta Force/CIA buddy, now deceased, and his response was, they will shoot at who they are told to shoot at.

That will of course depend on who is the CIC.

I tend to think they will shoot at whoever is posing a violent threat.

The leadership of the US military has clearly told the president that they will not do that.

[billvon 3,116]

24 minutes ago, RonD1120 said:

I posed that question awhile back to my Delta Force/CIA buddy, now deceased, and his response was, they will shoot at who they are told to shoot at.

They may have done that back in 1970.  Nowadays they are smarter than that (fortunately.)  We've already had half a dozen military leaders say that using the military to put down peaceful protests is wrong.

[RonD1120 62]

16 minutes ago, billvon said:

They may have done that back in 1970.  Nowadays they are smarter than that (fortunately.)  We've already had half a dozen military leaders say that using the military to put down peaceful protests is wrong.

I did not think we were talking about peaceful protestors.

[JerryBaumchen 1,468]

28 minutes ago, RonD1120 said:

I did not think we were talking about peaceful protestors.

Hi Ron,

Correct.  However, I think you are talking about yourselves; you know, with all those 'arms 'that you have.

Jerry Baumchen

Edited June 15, 2020 by JerryBaumchen

[kallend 2,148]

1 hour ago, DJL said:

And, BTW, the funding is from George Soros and Tom Steyer.

You have not been able to provide any validation of this.

You have unrealistic expectations.

[RonD1120 62]

17 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi Ron,

Correct.  However, I think you are talking about yourselves; you know, with all those 'arms 'that you have.

Jerry Baumchen

Granted, I believe I could become an objective to tyrannical rule. That is what the 2nd Amendment is all about.

[wmw999 2,588]

15 minutes ago, kallend said:

1 hour ago, DJL said:

And, BTW, the funding is from George Soros and Tom Steyer.

You have not been able to provide any validation of this.

You have unrealistic expectations.

Trusted sources. 

Like Q.

Wendy P.

[normiss 895]

Just now, wmw999 said:

Trusted sources. 

Like Q.

Wendy P.

Which by legal decree, makes the supporters of Q domestic terrorists.

Seems fitting.

 

[turtlespeed 226]

5 hours ago, JoeWeber said:

Get real, Ron. WTF does some old ex-"Delta Force/CIA buddy" know about what is in the mind of a 19 year old kid in 2020? You really don't love this country if you can glibly toss out that the Army ought to be able to follow illegal and unconstitutional orders to shoot US citizens on the whim of whomever just happens to be POTUS that year. Wow.

Somehow - though - you are the expert on that same 19yo.

[billvon 3,116]

4 hours ago, wmw999 said:

Trusted sources. 

Like Q.

Wendy P.

And FOX.  Pictures don't lie, right?

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

5 hours ago, wmw999 said:

Trusted sources. 

Like Q.

Wendy P.

 

1 hour ago, billvon said:

And FOX.  Pictures don't lie, right?

Don't forget his 'buddies in the SpecOps world' and his 'contacts at CIA'.

And all the 'backchannel comms' he has.

[RonD1120 62]

Here is another mature responsible black man on the subject.

 

[billvon 3,116]

7 hours ago, RonD1120 said:

Black Lives Matter Is Based On A Leftist LIE - WHO AGREES?

The KKK, the Proud Boys, Evropa, Aryan Nation, Stormfront, the American Nazi Party, the White Patriot Party, the Council of Conservative Citizens, Atomwaffen Division, the White League, the Supreme Order of Caucasians, groups like that.  I am sure I am missing a few,

[kallend 2,148]

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-06-16/suspects-charged-killing-santa-cruz-cop-and-oakland-federal-officer?utm_source=sfmc_100035609&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=News+Alert%3a+Suspected+cop+killer+linked+to+fatal+attack+on+Oakland+officer+had+links+to+extremist+gr&utm_term=https%3a%2f%2fwww.latimes.com%2fcalifornia%2fstory%2f2020-06-16%2fsuspects-charged-killing-santa-cruz-cop-and-oakland-federal-officer&utm_id=8376&sfmc_id=769725

Suspect in killing of 2 Bay Area cops tied to right-wing Boogaloo group, prosecutors allege

 

[JoeWeber 2,940]

11 hours ago, RonD1120 said:

Here is another mature responsible black man on the subject.

 

So I'll take it on faith, if you actually had your rabbit ears tuned to the video, that the propositional straw man argument "they say it is a genocide, now me and you both know what a genocide is" (at 1:37) was not a problem for you. Nor would it have caused you to wonder if the presenter had an agenda or was into his 15 minutes of fame. Nope. I'll bet you screamed Hallelujah called in someone who could upload a video. 

[RonD1120 62]

11 hours ago, JoeWeber said:

So I'll take it on faith, if you actually had your rabbit ears tuned to the video, that the propositional straw man argument "they say it is a genocide, now me and you both know what a genocide is" (at 1:37) was not a problem for you. Nor would it have caused you to wonder if the presenter had an agenda or was into his 15 minutes of fame. Nope. I'll bet you screamed Hallelujah called in someone who could upload a video. 

Here a black pastor shares his understanding.

https://www.oann.com/pastor-darrell-scott-we-need-to-increase-funding-to-police/

[kallend 2,148]

OANN 

You can always find some moron way out on the tail of the bell curve.

[RonD1120 62]

11 minutes ago, kallend said:

OANN 

You can always find some moron way out on the tail of the bell curve.

You calling a black pastor a moron, I believe that qualifies as being racist in this forum.

[wmw999 2,588]

2 minutes ago, RonD1120 said:

You calling a black pastor a moron, I believe that qualifies as being racist in this forum.

No, he's doing it based on belief, which is voluntary, not color, which isn't.

Not being able to tell the difference is telling, and kind of like the difference between PAs and calling someone out for their beliefs in SC here on dz.com.

Wendy P.

[turtlespeed 226]

1 hour ago, wmw999 said:

No, he's doing it based on belief, which is voluntary, not color, which isn't.

Not being able to tell the difference is telling, and kind of like the difference between PAs and calling someone out for their beliefs in SC here on dz.com.

Wendy P.

Not so much.  He is just calling attention to, and recognizing that any disagreement with (Insert specificity) that most of the more vocal left crowd, here in Speakers Corner, will label you as a (Pick your relative "ist").

I would give an example - but I don't want the ubiquitous ridicule. 

ETA - That is mostly because it is very difficult to both, a) Prove a negative, and b) change a closed mind. 

Edited June 17, 2020 by turtlespeed
Added thought

[normiss 895]

1 hour ago, RonD1120 said:

You calling a black pastor a moron, I believe that qualifies as being racist in this forum.

The lack of intelligence has zero to do with skin color. That would be like claiming racism for your religious beliefs. Irrational thought isn't about race.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

5 hours ago, RonD1120 said:

Here a black pastor shares his understanding.

https://www.oann.com/pastor-darrell-scott-we-need-to-increase-funding-to-police/

And what makes you think the opinion of one black pastors overrides the opinions of thousands of black people?

Must mean I can ascribe the opinions of an American white supremacist to all American whites.

Edited June 17, 2020 by SkyDekker

[normiss 895]

Trump and his EO to "fix" the police problem. It's such a joke. A very sad joke.

[jakee 1,595]

2 hours ago, turtlespeed said:

Not so much.  He is just calling attention to, and recognizing that any disagreement with (Insert specificity) that most of the more vocal left crowd, here in Speakers Corner, will label you as a (Pick your relative "ist").

I would give an example - but I don't want the ubiquitous ridicule. 

ETA - That is mostly because it is very difficult to both, a) Prove a negative, and b) change a closed mind. 

But it is very easy to prove a blanket statement false. There are several threads on the front page right now which do that. Indeed, that you would make such a statement does seem to show you have closed off your mind from honestly listening to anything said by those you see as the left.