Stimulus Checks May Be Delayed Because Trump Wants His Name Printed On Them

[JoeWeber 2,938]

24 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

Just exactly where does the money from the public dole come from?

Everyone Brent. But, like Alabama and Skydive Happy Valley,  there are many who get more than they put in. How is it that you are blind to that?

[brenthutch 444]

9 minutes ago, JoeWeber said:

Everyone Brent. But, like Alabama and Skydive Happy Valley,  there are many who get more than they put in. How is it that you are blind to that?

Newsflash Joe, there is no longer a Skydive Happy Valley!  The owner broke his leg and has been told by his doctors that he can no longer skydive. He is in the process of selling our DZ piece by piece, we are no longer paying rent as we are no longer a functioning DZ.  I hope that YOU are happy because the airport authority, our skydive community and the locals are not.  So lets get back to how much I put in and how much I get out.  Since I pay a middleclass income in taxes, I would count myself as a maker and not a taker.  When you cash your government check, just say thank you. 

[JoeWeber 2,938]

1 minute ago, brenthutch said:

Newsflash Joe, there is no longer a Skydive Happy Valley!  The owner broke his leg and has been told by his doctors that he can no longer skydive. He is in the process of selling our DZ piece by piece, we are no longer paying rent as we are no longer a functioning DZ.  I hope that YOU are happy because the airport authority, our skydive community and the locals are not.  So lets get back to how much I put in and how much I get out.  Since I pay a middleclass income in taxes, I would count myself as a maker and not a taker.  When you cash your government check, just say thank you. 

Well, if it was the cash cow going concern you've said it was why aren't you the new owner? To your tax bill, well, how much of the income of your college professor tenants comes from the dole? And, sorry to disillusion you, but your military pension is a public dole, too. Brent, you are simply a product of the socialist system. Even your bank work was propped up by FDIC guarantees and other social backstops. Just reality man.

[gowlerk 2,275]

45 minutes ago, JoeWeber said:

Newsflash Joe, there is no longer a Skydive Happy Valley!  The owner broke his leg and has been told by his doctors that he can no longer skydive. He is in the process of selling our DZ piece by piece, we are no longer paying rent as we are no longer a functioning DZ.  I hope that YOU are happy because the airport authority, our skydive community and the locals are not.  So lets get back to how much I put in and how much I get out.  Since I pay a middleclass income in taxes, I would count myself as a maker and not a taker.  When you cash your government check, just say thank you. 

Great news. What a bad time to be forced to sell those assets. Joe, time for you to swoop into PA with a too good to refuse under the circumstances offer. Then hire Brent to run the thing for you while you drop in once in a while to straighten out any problems and collect up all the honey. Win win.

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[brenthutch 444]

13 minutes ago, JoeWeber said:

Well, if it was the cash cow going concern you've said it was why aren't you the new owner? To your tax bill, well, how much of the income of your college professor tenants comes from the dole? And, sorry to disillusion you, but your military pension is a public dole, too. Brent, you are simply a product of the socialist system. Even your bank work was propped up by FDIC guarantees and other social backstops. Just reality man.

I never said it was a cash cow.  What small DZ is?  From your perspective, is there anyone who is not on the public dole?  If everyone is getting more than they put in, where does the money come from? 

[JoeWeber 2,938]

9 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

I never said it was a cash cow.  What small DZ is?  From your perspective, is there anyone who is not on the public dole?  If everyone is getting more than they put in, where does the money come from? 

Yes you did. You said the airport considered it a cash cow when you were defending against my argument you were subsidized. Everyone is not getting more than they put in, that's obvious. But California is putting money into Alabama and all tax payers are subsidizing public airports. And while you did 20 years in the combat arms, as you've said, your pension will continue for twice the years you were in uniform, or more.

Just step back and look at how things really work. Most of the $2T CARES money won't trickle down. Even Hedge Fund Bazillionaires are applying for PPP money and real estate moguls like Trump and Kushner may end up the big winners.

Even Mnuchin sees that some money needs to get downstream and fast. As in not trickle down but fire hose down like it's been fire hosing up.

Just how it is, man. 

[ryoder 1,590]

[brenthutch 444]

Joe, really?  Then what is the airport desperately trying to keep us?  Personally I am busy home schooling my kids, yet I am still paying taxes for the public schools.  Again, I ask you, JUST WHERE IS THE GOVERNMENT MONNY COMMING FROM?

 

[JoeWeber 2,938]

50 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

Joe, really?  Then what is the airport desperately trying to keep us?  Personally I am busy home schooling my kids, yet I am still paying taxes for the public schools.  Again, I ask you, JUST WHERE IS THE GOVERNMENT MONNY COMMING FROM?

 

The airport needs money coming in but it has zip to do with the operating costs. They are just like trust fund kids managing inherited rentals who need to show cash flow, not profit. I have no kids but pay 5 figures in school taxes every year. BFD if you get to do home schooling once in your life. Where does the money come from? Well, we now have something like $24+Trillion in national debt. It's not your hard earned money dude. Sorry but all the crap you've been sold is worthless. 

[brenthutch 444]

7 hours ago, JoeWeber said:

 I have no kids  

Why does that not surprise me?

[JoeWeber 2,938]

1 hour ago, brenthutch said:

Why does that not surprise me?

Inflexible thinking seems the obvious answer. 

[olofscience 492]

10 hours ago, brenthutch said:

JUST WHERE IS THE GOVERNMENT MONNY COMMING FROM?

You probably think you know how money works, but you don't.

[ryoder 1,590]

13 minutes ago, olofscience said:

You probably think you know how money works, but you don't.

He probably also thinks he knows how spelling works.

[Phil1111 1,176]

1 hour ago, brenthutch said:

Why does that not surprise me?

Yet for some republicans the debts passed onto every new American from that $23T debt are of no concern. Farmers get massive subsidies knowing their children will inherit those farms. Property developers  line their pockets at public expense knowing their intellectually challenged children will be safe from inheritance taxes

Other trump supporters could care less because they plan on leaving apartments, revenue homes and DZ operations to their kids. Nation debt, thats for others to worry about.

[gowlerk 2,275]

5 minutes ago, Phil1111 said:

Other trump supporters could care less because they plan on leaving apartments, revenue homes and DZ operations to their kids.

There are a couple multi-generational DZs I suppose. But most children of DZOs would quickly sell the assets for whatever they could and run.

 

[Phil1111 1,176]

4 minutes ago, gowlerk said:

There are a couple multi-generational DZs I suppose. But most children of DZOs would quickly sell the assets for whatever they could and run.

 

You mean C-182 operators aren't reading the twin otter sections of Trade-a-plane and dreaming of a prosperous post C-19 world for their kids? 

[JoeWeber 2,938]

7 minutes ago, gowlerk said:

There are a couple multi-generational DZs I suppose. But most children of DZOs would quickly sell the assets for whatever they could and run.

 

Unless they're no smarter than their DZO parents. That's always a problem.

[Coreece 190]

20 minutes ago, Phil1111 said:

Other trump supporters could care less

How much less could they care?

[Phil1111 1,176]

1 minute ago, Coreece said:

How much less could they care?

Well trump and care in the same sentence is a oxymoron isn't it?

[kallend 2,147]

"When Americans see Trump’s name on those stimulus checks, most won’t regard him as their benefactor. They will see a weak, desperate and selfish man who pretends that the money they pay in taxes is his own."  E.J. Dionne

[JoeWeber 2,938]

47 minutes ago, olofscience said:

You probably think you know how money works, but you don't.

He's locked irretrievably into his ideology box: the stock market is up and the elleemosynary wealthy are getting more money to trickle down to the needy so, and all you need to do is read the script, the newly unemployed 20 million non-customers, if they can just find a way to stretch 1200 Bucks for 3 months, are soon to be saved by capitalistic fervor. Business will instantly blossom and the children of the poor will spend their day's singing songs of gratitude. What's not to like?

 

[turtlespeed 226]

2 hours ago, Coreece said:

How much less could they care?

Some, but not all.

[turtlespeed 226]

2 hours ago, Phil1111 said:

Well trump and care in the same sentence is a oxymoron isn't it?

*an

[kallend 2,147]

2 hours ago, turtlespeed said:

*an

Turtle makes his play for the Lame Reply of the Week Award, for the second week in a row.

[billvon 3,114]

15 hours ago, brenthutch said:

From your perspective, is there anyone who is not on the public dole?  If everyone is getting more than they put in, where does the money come from? 

From a federal government perspective?  It comes from the blue states - CT, MA, NY.  That supports the states that are getting more than they put in, like KY, WV, AK and MS.

From an individual perspective?  Most people put in more than they get out, with some exceptions (DZO's on small airports for example.)  Fortunately for those people the government has no problem borrowing trillions forever.