gowlerk 2,256 #26 March 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, airdvr said: Most of the world couldn't give a fuck about the US, unless they need aid of course. I care about the US. I have many friends and family there. Not looking for aid. I'll be hauling a load of wood pulp there on Sunday. On my way to a P&G plant in Green Bay. They'll turn it in to essential supplies like TP and such. I'll haul a load of something back to Canada. Like many of you, I have no respect for your POS POTUS, but I love you anyway. I'm white and I'm Canadian. Your race baiting idiot in chief has not yet found a way to make me into an enemy. But if he thinks it will help him he will try. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #27 March 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, gowlerk said: I'll be hauling a load of wood pulp there on Sunday. On my way to a P&G plant in Green Bay. They'll turn it in to essential supplies like TP and such. TP??? I hope they are providing you with an armed escort!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,566 #28 March 20, 2020 13 hours ago, turtlespeed said: It is lethal, and China knew it, yet, It was downplayed by China. When does the blame and the accountability get placed correctly? If they need to be blamed and held accountable for downplaying the threat, what should happen to Donald "our cases will soon be zero" Trump? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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turtlespeed 226 #30 March 20, 2020 6 minutes ago, jakee said: If they need to be blamed and held accountable for downplaying the threat, what should happen to Donald "our cases will soon be zero" Trump? If he was responsible for running the country or origin, he should be willing to make efforts to compensate. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #31 March 20, 2020 31 minutes ago, gowlerk said: I care about the US. I have many friends and family there. Not looking for aid. I'll be hauling a load of wood pulp there on Sunday. On my way to a P&G plant in Green Bay. They'll turn it in to essential supplies like TP and such. I'll haul a load of something back to Canada. Like many of you, I have no respect for your POS POTUS, but I love you anyway. I'm white and I'm Canadian. Your race baiting idiot in chief has not yet found a way to make me into an enemy. But if he thinks it will help him he will try. Good to hear. I love Canada. As a child my parents took us camping several times to Algonquin Provincial Park. It was absolutely beautiful and peaceful. I made it a point to take my kids there as well. Thanks for continuing to haul goods. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,085 #32 March 20, 2020 2 hours ago, turtlespeed said: So I pose the question that asks for confirmation that someone believes the Chinese government was honest about the numbers. . I believe the WHO reports on the Chinese numbers were honest, yes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,085 #33 March 20, 2020 4 hours ago, airdvr said: Sometimes I'm amazed that you guys don't even know when you're being played by the POTUS. Excellent. The country is dealing with its biggest crisis in decades, and Trump is "playing." That will "play well" this November. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #34 March 20, 2020 Yes Bill,,that's right. Only Republican politicians play games to improve their standing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,085 #35 March 20, 2020 9 minutes ago, airdvr said: Yes Bill,,that's right. Only Republican politicians play games to improve their standing. Good to see you condone them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,566 #36 March 20, 2020 22 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: If he was responsible for running the country or origin, he should be willing to make efforts to compensate. ??? He is responsible for running the country. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #37 March 20, 2020 17 hours ago, JoeWeber said: Exactly. That is as exactly ass backwards an opinion as is humanly possible. It's not about China's reputation. It's about ours. You guy's have an almost preternatural ability to completely miss the point. I quote you but address this to airdvr and others with the similar view of the world. On world stage, Trump loathed as much as Obama loved, Pew survey says Jan8/20 Donald Trump has dragged America's global reputation to an all-time low Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #38 March 20, 2020 59 minutes ago, jakee said: ??? He is responsible for running the country. Why the "???" Did you not know the country of origin for Covid-19? Are saying that Trump runs China as well? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,256 #39 March 20, 2020 56 minutes ago, Phil1111 said: I quote you but address this to airdvr and others with the similar view of the world. On world stage, Trump loathed as much as Obama loved, Pew survey says Jan8/20 Donald Trump has dragged America's global reputation to an all-time low Do you really think the people you are addressing care even a little? Hell, most of the will see this as a good thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,566 #40 March 20, 2020 26 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: Why the "???" Did you not know the country of origin for Covid-19? Are saying that Trump runs China as well? Ah, I see, you made a typo. Why do you think that only leaders from the country of origin should be held accountable for mismanagement or misinformation? The virus may be from China but it's not just Chinese. When it's in America it's an American virus, when it's in Italy it's an Italian virus, when it's in Britain it's a British virus. When Trump said US cases were going very quickly down and would soon be zero there was a wealth of knowledge available that this wasn't going to be the case. If the Chinese are ccountable for what they did or did not say, why is he not accountable for that? Why isn't he accountable to the Americans who were infected by other Americans who didn't prepare for anything beause of what he said? Why isn't he accountable to other countries who may have been infected by Americans who travelled because he said there was no problem in the US when it had already taken hold? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,113 #41 March 20, 2020 1 hour ago, billvon said: Excellent. The country is dealing with its biggest crisis in decades, and Trump is "playing." That will "play well" this November. "Fiddling" is the more appropriate word. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #42 March 20, 2020 56 minutes ago, jakee said: When Trump said US cases were going very quickly down and would soon be zero there was a wealth of knowledge available that this wasn't going to be the case. To say anything other might have induced a panic. Hell, most of the grocery stores around me have some empty shelves. It's kind of like "if you like your doctor..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #43 March 20, 2020 20 hours ago, JoeWeber said: Yep, I told ya - fukin' China man. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #44 March 20, 2020 1 hour ago, jakee said: Ah, I see, you made a typo. Why do you think that only leaders from the country of origin should be held accountable for mismanagement or misinformation? The virus may be from China but it's not just Chinese. When it's in America it's an American virus, when it's in Italy it's an Italian virus, when it's in Britain it's a British virus. When Trump said US cases were going very quickly down and would soon be zero there was a wealth of knowledge available that this wasn't going to be the case. If the Chinese are ccountable for what they did or did not say, why is he not accountable for that? Why isn't he accountable to the Americans who were infected by other Americans who didn't prepare for anything beause of what he said? Why isn't he accountable to other countries who may have been infected by Americans who travelled because he said there was no problem in the US when it had already taken hold? Nice attempt at distraction. The leaders of the country of origin tried to hide it. Start with that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfzombie13 324 #45 March 20, 2020 7 hours ago, airdvr said: Sometimes I'm amazed that you guys don't even know when you're being played by the POTUS. he doesn't have the mental capacity to play a radio. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #46 March 20, 2020 13 minutes ago, airdvr said: To say anything other might have induced a panic. Hell, most of the grocery stores around me have some empty shelves. It's kind of like "if you like your doctor..." True. If the government would have told you what they already knew, and at least suspected, NO ONE would have been able to get any kind of ACA passed. It would have panicked the populace. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfzombie13 324 #47 March 20, 2020 19 minutes ago, airdvr said: To say anything other might have induced a panic. Hell, most of the grocery stores around me have some empty shelves. It's kind of like "if you like your doctor..." that's one of the biggest lies they sold you. if they had started at the beginning, in late december, telling us the truth, and what could happen, the stores would have been empty, then restocked, and by now we would all be laughing about it. they would have had everyone tested, isolated the few that were bringing it in, and the curve would be flat as hell. but that was only table topped with the obama team before the inauguration and in the briefing he got in mid 2018. yet he has the audacity to say it snuck up on us and nobody knew about it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #48 March 20, 2020 24 minutes ago, sfzombie13 said: that's one of the biggest lies they sold you. if they had started at the beginning, in late december, telling us the truth, and what could happen, the stores would have been empty, then restocked, and by now we would all be laughing about it. they would have had everyone tested, isolated the few that were bringing it in, and the curve would be flat as hell. but that was only table topped with the obama team before the inauguration and in the briefing he got in mid 2018. yet he has the audacity to say it snuck up on us and nobody knew about it. Trump did attempt to cut the CDC’s funding, but Congress prevented it from happening. While officials in charge of the U.S. response to pandemics did leave in 2018, it’s unclear if they were “fired.” The U.S. was not on a list of countries receiving COVID-19 tests from the WHO. But the U.S. doesn’t usually rely on the agency for diagnostic tests, and the testing delay was due mainly to an error with the CDC’s protocol. While Trump has called the Democratic response to the coronavirus a “hoax,” he has not used the term to describe the virus itself. Celebrities are sharing a misleading post about Trump’s response to coronavirus Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,085 #49 March 20, 2020 43 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: Nice attempt at distraction. The leaders of the country of origin tried to hide it. So they did - exactly what Trump did? EXECUTE THEM! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,085 #50 March 20, 2020 6 minutes ago, airdvr said: Trump did attempt to cut the CDC’s funding, but Congress prevented it from happening. And he disbanded the NSC's pandemic preparedness team. Dr. Fauci, director of the NIH's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease: “We worked very well with that office. It would be nice if the office was still there.” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites