JoeWeber 2,838 #26 February 3, 2020 1 hour ago, DJL said: So basically, Presidential. I don't want a President on my level. I want one on the level of world leaders. Leaders like Duterte, Bolsonaro, Putin and Kim Jong-un? Relax, we're covered. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #27 February 3, 2020 1 hour ago, SkyDekker said: Yes second order events are indeed different from the main event. Thank you captain obvious. Your previous reasoning would have been: Doesn't matter who the opponent is, the people who voted for Trump are responsible for having Trump elected as president. Current reasoning: DNC gave you Trump. I am just asking why the reasoning you use changes constantly. Do you come up with the reasoning after the fact, to protect the opinion you already hold? Not at all. The difference is that we are talking about groups not individuals. Trump is not responsible for what another leader of a country does. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 235 #28 February 3, 2020 1 hour ago, JoeWeber said: Leaders like Duterte, Bolsonaro, Putin and Kim Jong-un? Relax, we're covered. Yeah, guys like that who ignored Trump and did city level programs in adherence with the Paris Accord. Those are the ones I'm talking about. Wait, you made a list of despots. Totally got me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites