DNC is at it again

[airdvr 210]

The DNC has announced new debate qualifications for its February debate in Nevada, opening the door for billionaire Mike Bloomberg to join his fellow candidates on stage for the first time. The party scrapped, for the first time, the grassroots donor threshold, which has required candidates in every other debate thus far to received donations from tens of thousands of supporters to qualify. Bloomberg is self-funding his campaign and has refused to accept any donations.

Do you think this bothers any of the existing candidates?

[timski 80]

Candidates??? What about US, the general voting public. Oh wait, it doesn't matter anyway. This CUNTry has become a joke, and it certainly isn't funny. 

[yoink 321]

Is this a DNC specific requirement, or does the Republican party have the same thing?

 

I get where the intent is, but one of the only things I got excited about for Trump was the idea of him NOT being funded by anyone else. If Bloomberg can do it, I'm OK with it.

[turtlespeed 226]

7 hours ago, yoink said:

Is this a DNC specific requirement, or does the Republican party have the same thing?

 

I get where the intent is, but one of the only things I got excited about for Trump was the idea of him NOT being funded by anyone else. If Bloomberg can do it, I'm OK with it.

The DNC is what ultimately got you Trump.

But - it's your choice as to what to be OK with 

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7 hours ago, yoink said:

I get where the intent is, but one of the only things I got excited about for Trump was the idea of him NOT being funded by anyone else. If Bloomberg can do it, I'm OK with it.

have you SEEN how many pacs gave him money and still are?  to think that this idiot funded himself is laughable.  just like he isn't taking his salary or is donating it.  that may be so, but the family is getting so much money from their appointed positions it isn't needed, but i have heard he isn't even doing that(read in an article that i haven't fact checked).  hell rudy's son gets bank as a sports advisor for the white house. 

we can make a difference.

[b1jercat 0]

Trump could make a televangelist blush!

[kallend 2,106]

Their party, their rules. Why does it concern you?

[turtlespeed 226]

19 hours ago, kallend said:

Their party, their rules. Why does it concern you?

See post #4

[DJL 235]

On 2/1/2020 at 3:38 PM, airdvr said:

 

Do you think this bothers any of the existing candidates?

Don't care.  They did the grassroots thing to make sure legitimate candidates were getting on the stage with national interest back when there were 24 people.  Now they again want to make sure legitimate candidates are getting on the stage when we're at 12 candidates.  The grass roots thing isn't something they put in place as a permanent qualifier for candidates.

[airdvr 210]

This is all quite a departure from last June, when Perez told CNN in defense of the then-requirements, “You can’t win the presidency in the modern era if you can’t build relationships with the grassroots.” Or from what Perez said in December of 2018, when the primary debate structure was first announced: “My goal in this framework is to give the grassroots a bigger voice than ever before.” Or from what he told Vox, in May of 2019 of the third debate’s requirements: “That was designed with an understanding that if you want to win the presidency, you’ve got to have a grassroots strategy.”

If you guys think Bloomberg is the man then go for it.  Personally, I think Bloomberg is as divisive as HRC but you seem to like candidates from New York...

[airdvr 210]

20 hours ago, kallend said:

Their party, their rules. Why does it concern you?

Doesn't concern me John.  Just pointing out how once again the DNC seems to want to game their own system.  Didn't work out well for them last time.

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1 minute ago, airdvr said:

If you guys think Bloomberg is the man then go for it.  Personally, I think Bloomberg is as divisive as HRC but you seem to like candidates from New York...

Bloomberg is a terrible candidate. He's too old, too elitist, and completely out of touch.

[turtlespeed 226]

1 hour ago, airdvr said:

Doesn't concern me John.  Just pointing out how once again the DNC seems to want to game their own system.  Didn't work out well for them last time.

I'm concerned that they will push the candidate I want to vote for, out again.

Holy hell, the DNC seems to hate Bernie.

 

 

[SkyDekker 1,465]

On 2/2/2020 at 6:11 AM, turtlespeed said:

The DNC is what ultimately got you Trump.

But - it's your choice as to what to be OK with 

You mean the people who actually voted for him have no responsibility?

Remember how you argued how Trump's actions weren't responsible for the shooting down of the Ukrainian airliner? Remember how you argued how regardless of what led up to something, it is the people actually acting who are solely responsible?

[SkyDekker 1,465]

44 minutes ago, turtlespeed said:

I'm concerned that they will push the candidate I want to vote for, out again.

Holy hell, the DNC seems to hate Bernie.

 

 

have you registered as a Democrat? Will you be voting in the primaries?

[turtlespeed 226]

5 minutes ago, SkyDekker said:

You mean the people who actually voted for him have no responsibility?

Remember how you argued how Trump's actions weren't responsible for the shooting down of the Ukrainian airliner? Remember how you argued how regardless of what led up to something, it is the people actually acting who are solely responsible?

Wait - you mean you are considering the people that voted for trump actual people now?

[SkyDekker 1,465]

2 minutes ago, turtlespeed said:

Wait - you mean you are considering the people that voted for trump actual people now?

Yeah I didn't think you would actually address your own hypocrisy.

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2 hours ago, gowlerk said:

Bloomberg is a terrible candidate. He's too old, too elitist, and completely out of touch.

So basically, Presidential.  I don't want a President on my level.  I want one on the level of world leaders.

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7 minutes ago, SkyDekker said:

Yeah I didn't think you would actually address your own hypocrisy.

I do that occasionally.  You should try it.

[turtlespeed 226]

4 minutes ago, DJL said:

So basically, Presidential.  I don't want a President on my level.  I want one on the level of world leaders.

Wouldn't that be nice?

 

[SkyDekker 1,465]

1 minute ago, turtlespeed said:

I do that occasionally.  You should try it.

Who was responsible for Trump being elected?

[turtlespeed 226]

41 minutes ago, SkyDekker said:

Who was responsible for Trump being elected?

The American voters.

 

Who was responsible for choosing his opponent?

Edited February 3, 2020 by turtlespeed

[SkyDekker 1,465]

1 minute ago, turtlespeed said:

The American voters.

 

Who was responsible for choosing his opponent?

Previously you have argued second order events are not part of determining responsibility. Why are you arguing the opposite here?

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1 minute ago, SkyDekker said:

Previously you have argued second order events are not part of determining responsibility. Why are you arguing the opposite here?

I'm not arguing the opposite - Those are two separate events. (Unless you are meaning the Electoral college, who actually "elected" Trump.  For that matter, you could mean The House and senate that confirm his Presidency.)

Who chose the Democratic opponent to Trump?

 

[SkyDekker 1,465]

4 minutes ago, turtlespeed said:

'm not arguing the opposite - Those are two separate events.

Yes second order events are indeed different from the main event. Thank you captain obvious.

Your previous reasoning would have been: Doesn't matter who the opponent is, the people who voted for Trump are responsible for having Trump elected as president.

Current reasoning: DNC gave you Trump.

 

I am just asking why the reasoning you use changes constantly. Do you come up with the reasoning after the fact, to protect the opinion you already hold?