billvon 3,131 #1 Posted October 2, 2019 An NBC News article that is sure to make right wingers experience a bit of whiplash: " . . . a Honduran migrant who is eight months pregnant and was returned to Mexico in August said while she was detained in the U.S. a woman in uniform told her “she should abort her baby because ‘Trump didn’t want there to be any more pregnant people here.’” The woman said she has had no prenatal care in Mexico, according to the ACLU." https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/aclu-files-complaint-against-government-returning-pregnant-asylum-seekers-mexico-n1059711 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #2 October 2, 2019 Yeah, but would they have used taxpayer money to pay for it? (we really need a 'sarcasm' font) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 235 #3 October 2, 2019 10 hours ago, billvon said: An NBC News article that is sure to make right wingers experience a bit of whiplash: " . . . a Honduran migrant who is eight months pregnant and was returned to Mexico in August said while she was detained in the U.S. a woman in uniform told her “she should abort her baby because ‘Trump didn’t want there to be any more pregnant people here.’” The woman said she has had no prenatal care in Mexico, according to the ACLU." https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/aclu-files-complaint-against-government-returning-pregnant-asylum-seekers-mexico-n1059711 To play devil's advocate, the issue isn't about targeting pregnant asylum seekers but not giving them preferential treatment (aka, acknowledgement of their medical risks and basic dignity as humans). Trump's people should like this because it's broadcasting to the world that we're not going to let women in just because they're pregnant. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,131 #4 October 2, 2019 3 hours ago, DJL said: Trump's people should like this because it's broadcasting to the world that we're not going to let women in just because they're pregnant. Agreed. Hence the whiplash. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #5 October 4, 2019 On 10/1/2019 at 10:56 PM, billvon said: An NBC News article that is sure to make right wingers experience a bit of whiplash: " . . . a Honduran migrant who is eight months pregnant and was returned to Mexico in August said while she was detained in the U.S. a woman in uniform told her “she should abort her baby because ‘Trump didn’t want there to be any more pregnant people here.’” The woman said she has had no prenatal care in Mexico, according to the ACLU." https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/aclu-files-complaint-against-government-returning-pregnant-asylum-seekers-mexico-n1059711 Prenatal care was closer to her in Honduras than hiking to our southern border and seeking it illegally. https://www.google.com/search?q=medical+missionaries+in+honduras&rlz=1C1SQJL_enUS789US789&oq=medical+missionaries+in+Hon&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j33l3.15959j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,131 #6 October 4, 2019 7 hours ago, RonD1120 said: Prenatal care was closer to her in Honduras than hiking to our southern border and seeking it illegally. https://www.google.com/search?q=medical+missionaries+in+honduras&rlz=1C1SQJL_enUS789US789&oq=medical+missionaries+in+Hon&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j33l3.15959j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 So you are now OK with US government officials recommending abortions? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yobnoc 142 #7 October 5, 2019 16 hours ago, RonD1120 said: Prenatal care was closer to her in Honduras than hiking to our southern border and seeking it illegally. https://www.google.com/search?q=medical+missionaries+in+honduras&rlz=1C1SQJL_enUS789US789&oq=medical+missionaries+in+Hon&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j33l3.15959j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 So...you are aware that medical care is never illegal, right? The whole "Do no harm" thing? Hippocratic oath and all? I suppose the good christian thing to do would be to let her die because she crossed a made-up line between two pieces of dirt though. Good call. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #8 October 5, 2019 There's also the very simple fact that people who present themselves at the border to apply for asylum are NOT here illegally. The application for asylum/refugee status is the beginning of the process to become a legal resident. Once that application is made, they are not 'illegal aliens'. The xenophobes & bigots tend to ignore that. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,471 #9 October 5, 2019 2 hours ago, wolfriverjoe said: There's also the very simple fact that people who present themselves at the border to apply for asylum are NOT here illegally. The application for asylum/refugee status is the beginning of the process to become a legal resident. Once that application is made, they are not 'illegal aliens'. The xenophobes & bigots tend to ignore that. Hi Joe, Those facts are such pesky things. Jerry Baumchen PS) And thanks for reminding people who should know but seem to not know. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites