billvon 3,131 #1 Posted July 2, 2019 There may be some disadvantages to having an anti-vaxxer as president (and having him appoint an anti-vaxxer to run the commission on vaccine safety.) ======================== 2019 is a very bad year for measles By Julia Belluz, VOX Updated May 31, 2019, 10:38am EDT Measles was eliminated in the US in 2000. And yet progress against the disease unraveled to a startling degree. According to the latest measles numbers from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, health officials recorded 971 cases in the first five months of this year. That’s the largest number since 1992. It’s also a huge uptick compared to 2018, when 372 cases were reported. Given that it’s only May, and the virus has already been confirmed in 26 states, we’re well on track to set an even more dramatic record this year. So what’s driving the big increase in cases? The outbreaks here have been concentrated in just four states: New York, New Jersey, Washington, and California. And among those, the vast majority of cases (more than 600) has occurred in Orthodox Jewish communities in New York City and the suburb of Rockland. There, a minority of people who are vaccine skeptics have been opting out of the shots on behalf of their children, driving vaccine rates down and creating the space for the highly contagious virus to spread. “Measles is preventable and the way to end this outbreak is to ensure that all children and adults who can get vaccinated, do get vaccinated,” said CDC Director Robert Redfield in a statement Thursday. . . And in places that used to see very little measles previously, like the US, vaccine skepticism seems to be a common contributor, said Amanda Cohn, the CDC’s senior adviser for vaccines. “There’s vaccine hesitancy in a world where people don’t see measles anymore. We have to continue to remind people how serious measles is.” ========================== Where did this anti-vaxxing movement come from? ========================== Trump energizes the anti-vaccine movement in Texas Lena H. Sun WaPo February 20, 2017 AUSTIN — The group of 40 people gathered at a popular burger and fish taco restaurant in San Antonio listened eagerly to the latest news about the anti-vaccine fight taking place in the Texas legislature. Some mothers in the group had stopped immunizing their young children because of doubts about vaccine safety. Heads nodded as the woman giving the statehouse update warned that vaccine advocates wanted to “chip away” at parents’ right to choose. But she also had encouraging news. “We have 30 champions in that statehouse,” boasted Jackie Schlegel, executive director of Texans for Vaccine Choice. “Last session, we had two.” Now they also have one in the White House. President Trump’s embrace of discredited theories linking vaccines to autism has energized the anti-vaccine movement. Once fringe, the movement is becoming more popular, raising doubts about basic childhood health care among politically and geographically diverse groups. ======================== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #2 July 2, 2019 Thoughts and prayers should fix this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #3 July 3, 2019 1 hour ago, billvon said: There may be some disadvantages to having an anti-vaxxer as president (and having him appoint an anti-vaxxer to run the commission on vaccine safety.) ======================== 2019 is a very bad year for measles By Julia Belluz, VOX Updated May 31, 2019, 10:38am EDT Measles was eliminated in the US in 2000. And yet progress against the disease unraveled to a startling degree. According to the latest measles numbers from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, health officials recorded 971 cases in the first five months of this year. That’s the largest number since 1992. It’s also a huge uptick compared to 2018, when 372 cases were reported. Given that it’s only May, and the virus has already been confirmed in 26 states, we’re well on track to set an even more dramatic record this year. So what’s driving the big increase in cases? The outbreaks here have been concentrated in just four states: New York, New Jersey, Washington, and California. And among those, the vast majority of cases (more than 600) has occurred in Orthodox Jewish communities in New York City and the suburb of Rockland. There, a minority of people who are vaccine skeptics have been opting out of the shots on behalf of their children, driving vaccine rates down and creating the space for the highly contagious virus to spread. “Measles is preventable and the way to end this outbreak is to ensure that all children and adults who can get vaccinated, do get vaccinated,” said CDC Director Robert Redfield in a statement Thursday. . . And in places that used to see very little measles previously, like the US, vaccine skepticism seems to be a common contributor, said Amanda Cohn, the CDC’s senior adviser for vaccines. “There’s vaccine hesitancy in a world where people don’t see measles anymore. We have to continue to remind people how serious measles is.” ========================== Where did this anti-vaxxing movement come from? ========================== Trump energizes the anti-vaccine movement in Texas Lena H. Sun WaPo February 20, 2017 AUSTIN — The group of 40 people gathered at a popular burger and fish taco restaurant in San Antonio listened eagerly to the latest news about the anti-vaccine fight taking place in the Texas legislature. Some mothers in the group had stopped immunizing their young children because of doubts about vaccine safety. Heads nodded as the woman giving the statehouse update warned that vaccine advocates wanted to “chip away” at parents’ right to choose. But she also had encouraging news. “We have 30 champions in that statehouse,” boasted Jackie Schlegel, executive director of Texans for Vaccine Choice. “Last session, we had two.” Now they also have one in the White House. President Trump’s embrace of discredited theories linking vaccines to autism has energized the anti-vaccine movement. Once fringe, the movement is becoming more popular, raising doubts about basic childhood health care among politically and geographically diverse groups. ======================== That seems a little different than this headline. https://khn.org/morning-breakout/measles-outbreak-prompts-trump-to-shift-away-from-anti-vaccination-leanings-they-have-to-get-their-shots/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,131 #4 July 3, 2019 2 hours ago, turtlespeed said: That seems a little different than this headline. https://khn.org/morning-breakout/measles-outbreak-prompts-trump-to-shift-away-from-anti-vaccination-leanings-they-have-to-get-their-shots/ It does not surprise me one bit that Trump has flip-flopped once he checked what direction the political wind was blowing. Next up he will claim he never said that vaccines cause autism, and blame democrats. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #5 July 3, 2019 8 hours ago, billvon said: It does not surprise me one bit that Trump has flip-flopped once he checked what direction the political wind was blowing. Next up he will claim he never said that vaccines cause autism, and blame democrats. You mean he did just what every politician would do? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,131 #6 July 3, 2019 4 hours ago, turtlespeed said: You mean he did just what every politician would do? Well, no. Even most politicians would be smart enough not to come out against vaccines - because they'd know that that would be irresponsible, would kill people and would backfire. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #7 July 3, 2019 2 hours ago, billvon said: Well, no. Even most politicians would be smart enough not to come out against vaccines - because they'd know that that would be irresponsible, would kill people and would backfire. But... But... But... His idiot supporters believe that vaccines cause autism. And cancer. And that the microscopic quantities of a few things (mercury & formaldehyde) are dangerous. And he has to kowtow to his supporters idiocy, doesn't he? And, of course, it should be every parent's right to refuse to use the simplest and most effective way to prevent disease, shouldn't it? We make kids ride in the back seat. In car seats until they are adolescents. Any hint of abuse is required to be reported by certain folks (teachers, medical personnel, ect) and usually brings down the full weight of the 'justice system' on any adult who is even remotely suspected. Yet parents can refuse vaccines because they believe the garbage spouted by the anti-vaxers. I've heard it said: I can't send my kid to school with peanut treats, yet you can send your kid with infectious diseases? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #8 July 8, 2019 On 7/3/2019 at 1:43 PM, wolfriverjoe said: But... But... But... His idiot supporters believe that vaccines cause autism. And cancer. And that the microscopic quantities of a few things (mercury & formaldehyde) are dangerous. And he has to kowtow to his supporters idiocy, doesn't he? And, of course, it should be every parent's right to refuse to use the simplest and most effective way to prevent disease, shouldn't it? We make kids ride in the back seat. In car seats until they are adolescents. Any hint of abuse is required to be reported by certain folks (teachers, medical personnel, ect) and usually brings down the full weight of the 'justice system' on any adult who is even remotely suspected. Yet parents can refuse vaccines because they believe the garbage spouted by the anti-vaxers. I've heard it said: I can't send my kid to school with peanut treats, yet you can send your kid with infectious diseases? That's really strange - every antivaxxer I know personally is from the north east and a staunch liberal. Granted - I only know about 7 couples - but they are die hard liberals. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,131 #9 July 8, 2019 7 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: That's really strange - every antivaxxer I know personally is from the north east and a staunch liberal. Well, but the problem is that not many people listen to your northeastern liberal friends. But when the president of the United States says: Massive combined inoculations to small children is the cause for big increase in autism. Autism rates through the roof--why doesn't the Obama administration do something about doctor-inflicted autism. My friend's son, immediate #autism after #vaccines 10 yrs ago. So sad. Keep up good work. Nay-sayers will understand soon. (Trump retweet) So many people who have children with autism have thanked me—amazing response. They know far better than fudged up reports! Healthy young child goes to doctor, gets pumped with massive shot of many vaccines, doesn't feel good and changes - AUTISM. Many such cases! "@KimStagliano: @realDonaldTrump When will NYT write about vaccine damage and its price? 3 girls w autism here, Mr. Trump." They should Kim! Many many people are thanking me for what I said about @autism & vaccinations. Something must be done immediately. Imagine how mad you'd be to watch your healthy child crash hard after vaccine then doctors mock you I am being proven right about massive vaccinations—the doctors lied. Save our children & their future. Parents avoid vaccines - and diseases return. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 903 #10 July 8, 2019 Well, Trump IS a fucking moron. So there's a grain of salt to consider. The size of Texas, but a grain. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #11 July 8, 2019 21 minutes ago, normiss said: Well, Trump IS a fucking moron. So there's a grain of salt to consider. The size of Texas, but a grain. I believe he is more than you give him credit for. I believe it is more that he is considerably unpolished and inarticulate - . . . and you can rage against him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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