billvon 3,114 #51 May 22, 2019 10 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said: PS) As has been said many times: If men could get pregnant, none of them would be against abortion. And if getting pregnant were always a deliberate choice, then the need for abortion (and the perceived need to ban it) would go down dramatically. Availability of contraception and women's education* are two ways to make that happen. Unfortunately, often the strongest opponents of abortion oppose those as well - which exacerbates the problem. (* - not just sex ed although that's important; even general education of women reduces unwanted pregnancies.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #53 May 23, 2019 10 hours ago, normiss said: 12 hours ago, Coreece said: Ok, if it's not a human zygote/blastocyst, what kind of zygote/blastocyst is it? ...and you do realize that medical abortions don't typical occur during these stages, right? Now you move on to attacking me for not using the word fetus. No, why would you even say that? I already told you why I didn't think you were referring to a fetus. . . .and if you don't want to feel attacked when being called out for talking nonsense, then maybe try not talking nonsense. 9 hours ago, normiss said: It shouldn't surprise me how few men know anything about human reproduction and the terms used. Sez the guy who said "non-human globs." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #54 May 23, 2019 (edited) 17 hours ago, JerryBaumchen said: If men could get pregnant, none of them would be against abortion. Why? Women can get pregnant and millions of them are against abortion. Even the protests seem to be comprised of mostly women. Edited May 23, 2019 by Coreece clicky fix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #55 May 23, 2019 17 hours ago, billvon said: Availability of contraception and women's education* are two ways to make that happen. Unfortunately, often the strongest opponents of abortion oppose those as well - which exacerbates the problem. I agree. That level of obstinance is just aggravating and only makes the problem worse. It would also help if there wasn't such a display of utter contempt for the early stages of human life coming from others within the pro-choice movement. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,147 #56 May 23, 2019 On 5/21/2019 at 4:37 PM, Coreece said: Saying that non citizens don't have rights is not a valid argument. Making strawman arguments is not a valid debate tactic. You need to stop doing it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,114 #57 May 23, 2019 10 minutes ago, Coreece said: I agree. That level of obstinance is just aggravating and only makes the problem worse. It would also help if there wasn't such a display of utter contempt for the early stages of human life coming from others within the pro-choice movement. Agreed there too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #58 May 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, kallend said: On 5/21/2019 at 9:37 PM, Coreece said: Saying that non citizens don't have rights is not a valid argument. Making strawman arguments is not a valid debate tactic. You need to stop doing it. Oh please, that was the entire basis for your claim. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,147 #59 May 23, 2019 9 hours ago, Coreece said: Oh please, that was the entire basis for your claim. You REALLY need to stop with the strawmen. It makes you look silly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #60 May 23, 2019 3 hours ago, kallend said: 12 hours ago, Coreece said: Oh please, that was the entire basis for your claim. You REALLY need to stop with the strawmen. It makes you look silly. Go play with your bird. . . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
