Bolton building a path to war

[jclalor 12]

The first half of Trump’s presidency could be child’s play compared to what could happen in the second half if we attack Iran.

[ryoder 1,590]

Yes, going to war was such a smashing success in Afghanistan, Iraq, & Libya.

So let's do it again, and hope for a different result.

[kallend 2,131]

2 hours ago, ryoder said:

Yes, going to war was such a smashing success in Afghanistan, Iraq, & Libya.

So let's do it again, and hope for a different result.

Like in Vietnam?

[Coreece 190]

10 hours ago, jclalor said:

The first half of Trump’s presidency could be child’s play compared to what could happen in the second half if we attack Iran.

I guess people got bored waiting for the nuclear war with NK that we were supposed to have.  Now it's Iran.

[ryoder 1,590]

CNN: Trump's irritation with top aides grows over Iran strategy

https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/16/politics/donald-trump-iran-john-bolton-mike-pompeo/index.html

Perhaps Bolton will be the next to get booted from the swamp.

We can only hope.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

11 hours ago, jclalor said:

The first half of Trump’s presidency could be child’s play compared to what could happen in the second half if we attack Iran.

During the Obama presidency Trump tweeted that Obama would go to war with Iran to extend his presidency. Considering the sheer amount of tweets that have been nothing but projecting, I consider that the be the strongest indicator for a war with Iran.

[DJL 235]

Guys we're not going to war with Iran.  Absolutely nobody wants to.  We move our forces to provide security and as a show of force in various situation.  Cool your jets.

[turtlespeed 226]

13 minutes ago, DJL said:

Guys we're not going to war with Iran.  Absolutely nobody wants to.  We move our forces to provide security and as a show of force in various situation.  Cool your jets.

If Obama hadn't released the sanction money - this wouldn't be happening.

[normiss 883]

23 minutes ago, turtlespeed said:

If Obama hadn't released the sanction money - this wouldn't be happening.

Returning deposit money saved us millions in legal fees.

I could never read the compartment labels on the Ayatollah class destroyers anyway. Until after the threat upgrade to them anyway.

I hope they're happy in China.

[turtlespeed 226]

1 hour ago, normiss said:

Returning deposit money saved us millions in legal fees.

I could never read the compartment labels on the Ayatollah class destroyers anyway. Until after the threat upgrade to them anyway.

I hope they're happy in China.

Those legal fees would have been better spent.

[normiss 883]

I expect that was part of the consideration, resulting in the refunding of deposits.

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

1 minute ago, normiss said:

I expect that was part of the consideration, resulting in the refunding of deposits.

And who was it that cancelled the agreement?
One that, by all reports, was working well and that the Iranians were holding to.

Once somebody cancelled it, the Iranians were free to do as they wished.

[kallend 2,131]

On 5/17/2019 at 9:54 AM, DJL said:

Guys we're not going to war with Iran.  Absolutely nobody wants to.  We move our forces to provide security and as a show of force in various situation.  Cool your jets.

Nobody WANTED to go to war in 1914.  It was the result of a series of stupid decisions combined with ignorance and stubbornness.  Rather like what's happening in the White House at this time.

[BIGUN 1,466]

On 5/16/2019 at 5:58 AM, ryoder said:

going to war was such a smashing success in Afghanistan, Iraq

The war was over in 2003. After that; it became an occupation. The only wars we should consider is those in which we go; stay there until we beat the shit out of them; then exit. No rules of engagement, no lawyers making infantry decisions, No puppet strings from D.C., no more re-building after they get the shit kicked out of them. In/destroy/exit/done. But, that's just my $.02 

[jakee 1,584]

7 hours ago, BIGUN said:

The war was over in 2003. After that; it became an occupation. 

No it wasn't. The purpose of the war was to go after Al Qaeda specifically, not Afghanistan in general. Al Qaeda was still carrying out co-ordinated international terrorist attacks for years afterwards. Bin Laden wasn't killed until 2011. Unless you redefine the purpose of the war, its objectives were nowhere near complete in 2003.

 

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The only wars we should consider is those in which we go; stay there until we beat the shit out of them; then exit.

Then you should never have gone into Afghanistan, because doing that would not have achieved anything usefull from a US self interest point of view.

 

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In/destroy/exit/done. But, that's just my $.02

And that's why they hate you. If you dont want to face terror from those who think you're the Great Satan, don't prove them right by doing evil in their home towns.