jakee 1,584 #26 May 14, 2019 37 minutes ago, airdvr said: The sensationalism part of the Ireland thing isn't the emergency...its the "hysteria". The headline would have you believe people are running around Ireland in a panic. Not so. Funny, I thought the headline was suggesting that declaring an emergency was a hysterical reaction. Again, did you not notice that the headline comes from Oilprice.com? A website that exists to serve investors and traders in the oil and gas industry? When you think even the fossil fuel industry is forcing climate change on you, you might be a teeny bit paranoid. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #27 May 14, 2019 Not paranoia...in this instance its the oil and gas industry trying to make the AGW crowd look stupid. More media sensationalism. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,584 #28 May 14, 2019 3 hours ago, airdvr said: Not paranoia...in this instance its the oil and gas industry trying to make the AGW crowd look stupid. More media sensationalism. So to support your position that you're being sold AGW, you quoted a site trying to sell you against AGW? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #29 May 14, 2019 6 hours ago, airdvr said: The sensationalism part of the Ireland thing isn't the emergency...its the "hysteria". The headline would have you believe people are running around Ireland in a panic. Not so. It is a headline on oilprice.com. I don't think you have to be very smart to figure out that hysteria relates to the emergency declaration, not the response of the populace. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #30 May 15, 2019 12 hours ago, airdvr said: The sensationalism part of the Ireland thing isn't the emergency...its the "hysteria". The headline would have you believe people are running around Ireland in a panic. Not so. EXACTLY - Thanks for not being obtuse. Doesn't the media have a responsibility to not stir things up - shouldn't they have to tell the truth without sensationalizing it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,096 #31 May 15, 2019 1 hour ago, turtlespeed said: EXACTLY - Thanks for not being obtuse. Doesn't the media have a responsibility to not stir things up - shouldn't they have to tell the truth without sensationalizing it? FOX News would be out of business in days. If it bleeds, it leads. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #32 May 15, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, billvon said: FOX News would be out of business in days. If it bleeds, it leads. You say that like I pay any attention to FN anymore. I do not give a F**k if FN continues on the air waves - with one caveat - the channels that lean just as hard to the left should go the same way. These days I strive for fairness and equality - ETA - FN is just as guilty of the sensationalism as everyone else - Edited May 15, 2019 by turtlespeed additional text Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,096 #33 May 15, 2019 8 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: You say that like I pay any attention to FN anymore. No; that was just an example. Media (especially FOX) produces content most people want to watch - which is generally sensational. Almost no one want to read about the 328 million Americans not killed on September 11, 2001. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #34 May 15, 2019 49 minutes ago, billvon said: No; that was just an example. Media (especially FOX) produces content most people want to watch - which is generally sensational. Almost no one want to read about the 328 million Americans not killed on September 11, 2001. That would depend on what they published. This was supposed to be a big headline - A grand jury rejected a complaint against former Congressman Gary Condit in which a flight attendant claimed he had pressured her to sign an affidavit falsely stating they did not have romantic relations. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #35 May 15, 2019 6 minutes ago, turtlespeed said: That would depend on what they published. This was supposed to be a big headline - A grand jury rejected a complaint against former Congressman Gary Condit in which a flight attendant claimed he had pressured her to sign an affidavit falsely stating they did not have romantic relations. And then I'm sure everyone wanted Jay Z to be more famous . . . But it wasn't even close to being the day's biggest album release: Jay-Z's iconic "The Blueprint" came out on 9/11. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,584 #36 May 15, 2019 5 hours ago, turtlespeed said: EXACTLY - Thanks for not being obtuse. Doesn't the media have a responsibility to not stir things up - shouldn't they have to tell the truth without sensationalizing it? Dude, don't try and bullshit your way out of talking nonsense. You already specified the exact part of that headline you were talking about and it's EXACTLY not what Airdvr was just talking about; "Ireland declared a climate emergency is sensationalism." Again, that's not media sensationalism, that is telling the truth. It's not obtuse to respond to the things you actually say instead of trying to guess what's really going on inside your head. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,131 #37 May 15, 2019 On 5/14/2019 at 7:39 AM, airdvr said: The sensationalism part of the Ireland thing isn't the emergency...its the "hysteria". The headline would have you believe people are running around Ireland in a panic. Not so. So Oilprice.com is "AGW media"? (your source for "hysteria", your words). Clearly you have joined the ranks of the fact-resistant humans. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #38 May 15, 2019 On 5/14/2019 at 10:09 AM, airdvr said: Not paranoia...in this instance its the oil and gas industry trying to make the AGW crowd look stupid. More media sensationalism. You incorrectly assume that I'm only talking about sensationalism that comes from the pro-AGW side. Sensationalism exists on both sides of the issue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #39 May 15, 2019 On 5/14/2019 at 9:20 AM, jakee said: Funny, I thought the headline was suggesting that declaring an emergency was a hysterical reaction. Look at it again. "triggers hysteria" refers to what? I can only assume the population of Ireland. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,266 #40 May 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, airdvr said: Look at it again. "triggers hysteria" refers to what? I can only assume the population of Ireland. Since everyone seems to have a theory about the story, but no one has read it because it's only a screen shot. I decided to do the basic Google search none of you seem to be willing to do yourselves. https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Climate-Change-Triggers-Hysteria-As-Ireland-Declares-A-Climate-Emergency.html You're welcome. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #41 May 15, 2019 Thanks for that. I admit I hadn't read the article. I wonder how many go deeper than the headlines. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,266 #42 May 15, 2019 32 minutes ago, airdvr said: Thanks for that. I admit I hadn't read the article. I wonder how many go deeper than the headlines. And....lost in all of that is the fact that Ireland was actually copying the UK Parliament. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-48126677 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,584 #43 May 15, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, airdvr said: Thanks for that. I admit I hadn't read the article. I wonder how many go deeper than the headlines. Are you serious? It was the basis for your entire argument but you couldn't be bothered to read more than ten words? I read it. How do you think I knew which website it came from? Your own quest for truth may go no deeper than the headlines, but don't assume that everyone else is the same slave to confirmation bias that you are. Edited May 15, 2019 by jakee Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,266 #44 May 15, 2019 10 minutes ago, jakee said: Are you serious? It was the basis for your entire argument but you couldn't be bothered to read more than ten words? I read it. How do you think I knew which website it came from? Your own quest for truth may go no deeper than the headlines, but don't assume that everyone else is the same slave to confirmation bias that you are. In fairness, he couldn’t have read it because there was only a picture of a screen grab. I needed to type the headline into the google to find the actual article. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,584 #45 May 16, 2019 8 hours ago, gowlerk said: In fairness, he couldn’t have read it because there was only a picture of a screen grab. I needed to type the headline into the google to find the actual article. Life is so hard these days. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,131 #46 May 16, 2019 2 hours ago, jakee said: Life is so hard these days. Yes, what with avoiding wind-turbine induced cancer and all that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #47 May 20, 2019 (edited) On 5/11/2019 at 9:45 AM, airdvr said: Didn't take long to find....AGW is also a boon for media outlets. Edited May 20, 2019 by winsor 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,096 #48 May 28, 2019 On 5/11/2019 at 6:45 AM, airdvr said: Didn't take long to find....AGW is also a boon for media outlets. As is climate change denial. From Vanity Fair: TRUMP’S NEW CLIMATE CZAR: CARBON DIOXIDE HAS BEEN TREATED JUST LIKE “JEWS UNDER HITLER” William Happer, who is spearheading a proposed White House panel on climate change, believes CO2 “has undergone decade after decade of abuse, for no reason.” “The demonization of carbon dioxide is just like the demonization of the poor Jews under Hitler.” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #49 May 28, 2019 (edited) 45 minutes ago, billvon said: “The demonization of carbon dioxide is just like the demonization of the poor Jews under Hitler.” There's a joke about white supremacy for clean energy in there somewhere. . . Edited May 28, 2019 by Coreece Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #50 May 28, 2019 22 minutes ago, Coreece said: There's a joke about white supremacy for clean energy in there somewhere. . . Isn't that redundant? <Runs away> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites