rushmc 23 #1 Posted March 9, 2019 (edited) another faker exposed in charged https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/jussie-smollett-indicted-on-16-felony-counts-following-chicago-attack-allegations It's appearing that this is a favorite tactic of the left these days Edited March 9, 2019 by rushmc 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,483 #2 March 10, 2019 Defense: Your Honor, my client identifies with being a victim in this type of brutal attack. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 235 #3 March 11, 2019 On 3/8/2019 at 7:06 PM, rushmc said: It's appearing that this is a favorite tactic of the left these days Who are the others? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #4 March 11, 2019 1 hour ago, DJL said: Who are the others? Most egregious example is the persecution of the Covington Catholic students by the media and celebrities, duped into believing a truncated video of a native American activist being mocked by the boys, some who wore MAGA hats. Of course, the truth came out later, and Hell is coming for those involved. WaPo is facing a $150m lawsuit and now CNN is being sued for what, $250m? Far left liberals are some of the most violent in-your-face aggressors when it comes to facing Trump supporters who wear their support. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 892 #5 March 11, 2019 "If she wouldn't dress like that, she wouldn't get raped." Comes to mind when I hear comments like that. It seems that wearing a MAGA hat is in many cases, a similar precautionary signal as that of a Confederate flag. It's a sad that recent times seem to no longer tolerate opposing views and some can only see them as disparaging to the point of anger. Getting in each other's face isn't how we should show opposing support of or express ideas. I think both sides of this could have done better, yet the media aren't the only ones that misrepresented this event. Catholic leaders were equally misguided. I doubt this lawsuit will actually go very far, there are some quite weak "opinions" in place of facts in it so far. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmcoco84 5 #6 March 11, 2019 2 hours ago, DJL said: Who are the others? Just a few..."Top 5" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 235 #7 March 11, 2019 3 hours ago, BillyVance said: Far left liberals are some of the most violent in-your-face aggressors when it comes to facing Trump supporters who wear their support. Are we talking supper triggered yelling aggression or drive you car into a crowd aggression? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #8 March 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, DJL said: Are we talking supper triggered yelling aggression or drive you car into a crowd aggression? That dude was a shitbrick, but that's the only incident in recent memory. Super triggered yelling aggression AND assaults against MAGA wearers happen way more often. Most recent example was the ILLEGAL ALIEN waitress in the northeast who screamed at and knocked a MAGA hat off a patron... and then was arrested, and taken into custody by ICE... LMAO (shrugs) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,594 #9 March 11, 2019 On 3/9/2019 at 12:06 AM, rushmc said: another faker exposed in charged Well, you say another but I’m pretty sure you’ve already been talking about him for a while. Did you really need to start another thread just to make it seem like there was more going on? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #10 March 11, 2019 9 minutes ago, DJL said: Are we talking supper triggered yelling aggression or drive you car into a crowd aggression? Or the enraged liberal shooter who shot up a Republican legislators' baseball practice session, almost costing Steve Scalise's life? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #11 March 11, 2019 Why are you repeating threads? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 235 #12 March 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, BillyVance said: Or the enraged liberal shooter who shot up a Republican legislators' baseball practice session, almost costing Steve Scalise's life? To cover both of your examples - the first was driving cars into protesters - quick youtube search will show many many many examples of people driving cars into a crowd of protesters (mostly BLM groups) besides that wasn't the only assault at the Charlottesville protest, several were charged and one person ever fired a gun. As for the Bernie Shooter, any more liberal shooters? Do we even need to list the far-right quack jobs making a habit of going on shooting sprees? You're simply not going to bring this to any conclusion by saying that THE ISSUE is liberals who fake attacks or get aggressive, there ARE bad people on both sides. As for fakes from the right just off the of my head; the fake planned parenthood video, the fake accusations against newspapers for paying people to come forward against Roy Moore, Greg Piatek filing a lawsuit falsely claiming he was kicked out of a bar for wearing a maga hat. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 235 #13 March 11, 2019 (edited) To continue, the real issue here is that when these things happen they really do harm true accusations. That harm is amplified because it's used as a weapon to attempts to exonerate perpetrators of actual crimes and to diminish the real harm done in these crimes. So, Billy Vance and Rush I have to ask, do you wish to diminish the real crime and harm done in actual cases of assaults and hate crimes? Next, why do you feel the need to defend against actual cases of assaults and hate crimes as if it's a statement against "the right"? How about everybody just be against assaults and hate crimes and we let the system punish those who are caught for either assaulting someone or for faking an assault? Edited March 11, 2019 by DJL 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,109 #14 March 11, 2019 3 hours ago, BillyVance said: Or the enraged liberal shooter who shot up a Republican legislators' baseball practice session, almost costing Steve Scalise's life? Vs. the white supremacist murderer who DID kill a 31 year old woman and injured 28? I'll take injuries over murders any day. Quote Far left liberals are some of the most violent in-your-face aggressors when it comes to facing Trump supporters who wear their support. Whereas far-right conservatives prefer to just murder people. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #15 March 11, 2019 3 hours ago, BillyVance said: That dude was a shitbrick, but that's the only incident in recent memory. Super triggered yelling aggression AND assaults against MAGA wearers happen way more often. Most recent example was the ILLEGAL ALIEN waitress in the northeast who screamed at and knocked a MAGA hat off a patron... and then was arrested, and taken into custody by ICE... LMAO (shrugs) That's hilarious. Your memory is terrible. There's an entire thread. It's called "Baskets of Deplorables." Pages and pages of examples of Trumpettes acting like spoiled little kids, bullies picking on vulnerable people. Usually minorities. Feel free to start another one about all of those "Liberal attackers." Marc is so desperate for that sort of thing that he has to start 2 threads on the same incident. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #16 March 11, 2019 (edited) I was curious how the hell they got 16 charges out of one false report made by Smollett. The indictment is at the end of this Rolling Stone article: https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/jussie-smollett-grand-jury-806130/ The charge(s) are the same charge repeated 16 times. WTF??? Edited March 11, 2019 by ryoder Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #17 March 11, 2019 He's black. gay and liberal. Of course they are going to pile the charges on as high as they can. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmcoco84 5 #18 March 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, wolfriverjoe said: He's black. gay and liberal. Of course they are going to pile the charges on as high as they can. Because they're in MAGA country, right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #19 March 11, 2019 1 minute ago, dmcoco84 said: Because they're in MAGA country, right? No. Because it's Chicago. The cop who was convicted of 2nd degree murder was given 6 years. The others, who covered up for him, were acquitted. Smollet made them look foolish. They don't like that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmcoco84 5 #20 March 11, 2019 1 minute ago, wolfriverjoe said: No. Because it's Chicago. The cop who was convicted of 2nd degree murder was given 6 years. The others, who covered up for him, were acquitted. Smollet made them look foolish. They don't like that. Not sure what you are referencing; cops. Yes. He sure did. They should throw the book at him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #21 March 11, 2019 The LaQuan MacDonald shooting. When it happened, the cops claimed self defense, feared for their lives, he was attacking, all that. They refused to release the video. The day before the video was to be released, as the result of a lawsuit, they charged the cop. The other cops who were there were part of the coverup. They filed false reports, lied about what happened, basic 'obstruction of justice'. The cop who did the shooting was found guilty of 2nd degree murder. A crime normally punishable by 20 years or so. He got 6. All the other cops involve were exonerated. Its the most recent example of how bad the cops in Chicago are. There are also many, many stories of people getting into confrontations with off duty cops who end up in a world of trouble. The justice system is so rigged there, it's not a surprise that Smollet is facing very, very serious charges. Multiple ones at that. I don't disagree that there should be consequences for what he did, but what they are doing goes 'above and beyond' reasonable. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #22 March 12, 2019 41 minutes ago, wolfriverjoe said: He's black. gay and liberal. Of course they are going to pile the charges on as high as they can. My theory is they are trying to force him into a plea bargain: "Plead guilty to 4 charges, and we we be generous and drop the other 12". I hope this goes in front of a judge. I'll bet a lot of judges would take a very dim view of trying to pile on repetitions of the same charge for a single action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #23 March 12, 2019 13 hours ago, wolfriverjoe said: Its the most recent example of how bad the cops in Chicago are. Only if you're a member of a minority group. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #24 March 12, 2019 15 hours ago, ryoder said: My theory is they are trying to force him into a plea bargain: "Plead guilty to 4 charges, and we we be generous and drop the other 12". I hope this goes in front of a judge. I'll bet a lot of judges would take a very dim view of trying to pile on repetitions of the same charge for a single action. Don't bet on it. This is pretty standard practice. It's just that Smollet is reasonably wealthy and somewhat famous. If he was just a poor dude with a public defender, he'd be screwed. 15 hours ago, wolfriverjoe said: Its the most recent example of how bad the cops in Chicago are. There are also many, many stories of people getting into confrontations with off duty cops who end up in a world of trouble. 2 hours ago, kallend said: Only if you're a member of a minority group. Not necessarily, although minorities get the worst of it. The bartender who was severely beaten by an off duty cop was white. Of course, all the other cops covered it up. She won a fairly large settlement. https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-2012-11-14-chi-verdict-reached-in-cop-bar-beating-case-20121113-story.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 235 #25 March 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, wolfriverjoe said: It's just that Smollet is reasonably wealthy and somewhat famous. If he was just a poor dude with a public defender, he'd be screwed. Something tells me he's going to have trouble picking up parts after this since he's a social and professional pariah. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
