cdhezel 0 #26 June 19, 2006 thanks for all the advice (the stay on the ground theorists meant well but please, don´t make this an autoresponse to a retrospect situation, true I push the envelope,but only within the safe fly parameters) conclusion, in turbulance maintain as much cell pressure as possible, brakes to be used only to reinflte a collapse, steer with gentleness, rear risers work quite well and avoid flying dead downwind, avoid being downwind of obstacles or other flying objects and stay cool, if a complete collapse occurs at above 2000ft cut away.... this is the conclusion from your answers and several bloody expensive phone calls, the links and advice helped....thanks people and blue skies (even to those who ride Harleys..stay over the mascine amigo)..... regards CDWhen I go, I want to pass away in my sleep, just like my dear old Grandmother, NOT screaming like the passengers in the car she was driving. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #27 June 20, 2006 ... if a complete collapse occurs at above 2000ft cut away.... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That depends upon what class of canopy you are flying. Most student, CF, precision landing and casual recreational canopies, I would keep, immediately going to deep brakes in an effort to re-inflate them. I would only cutaway canopies with a reputation for irrecoverable line twists (Stiletto, Velocity, Vengeance, Icarus Extremely Extreme, etc.) and only if they started to dive. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,107 #28 June 20, 2006 >I would keep, immediately going to deep brakes in an effort to re-inflate them. I would agree, although I would also point out that you shouldn't go into _too_ deep brakes. Really deep brakes can lead to awkward/slow openings, as BASE jumpers have discovered. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AFFI 0 #29 June 20, 2006 Quote... if a complete collapse occurs at above 2000ft cut away.... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That depends upon what class of canopy you are flying. Most student, CF, precision landing and casual recreational canopies, I would keep, immediately going to deep brakes in an effort to re-inflate them. I would only cutaway canopies with a reputation for irrecoverable line twists (Stiletto, Velocity, Vengeance, Icarus Extremely Extreme, etc.) and only if they started to dive. Also depends on how much "above 2000ft" you are. When trying to fix a partial malfunction altitude awareness is essential. I think stalling up high is fun but I still dont have the balls to take it into a full stall, maybe this weekend...Mykel AFF-I10 Skydiving Priorities: 1) Open Canopy. 2) Land Safely. 3) Don’t hurt anyone. 4) Repeat… Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cdhezel 0 #30 June 20, 2006 high stall is great, so is the reinflate and accompanying dive, just not when it´s in a sh¶± load of turbulence. CDWhen I go, I want to pass away in my sleep, just like my dear old Grandmother, NOT screaming like the passengers in the car she was driving. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AFFI 0 #31 June 20, 2006 Quotehigh stall is great, so is the reinflate and accompanying dive, just not when it´s in a sh¶± load of turbulence. CD At a safe altitude? Sounds like fun to mix stalling with choppy wind conditions. The only time turbulence is an issue for me is close to the ground - up high I have fun with it. It's like water skiing and skipping across the boats wake...Mykel AFF-I10 Skydiving Priorities: 1) Open Canopy. 2) Land Safely. 3) Don’t hurt anyone. 4) Repeat… Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cdhezel 0 #32 June 20, 2006 When this stall/collapse twist and verticle dive occured I stated at 600m and finished at 350 that not wake skipping thats surfing northshore on a ragged break day. way uncool and potentially messyWhen I go, I want to pass away in my sleep, just like my dear old Grandmother, NOT screaming like the passengers in the car she was driving. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
