RiggerLee 63 #1 Posted January 26, 2019 I'm not sure whether I should post this here or in the soap box. Although it might touch on controversial issues what I'd really like to focus on is feasibility of the idea it self. A lot of people are really butt hurt about Youtube for all kinds of reasons. Although there are alternatives out their they are insignificant to youtube with it's vast collection of every cat video ever recorded. No one will ever be able to compete they are just too far ahead. So I came across this video the other night and it got me thinking. So basically it seems that they have come out with yet another addendum to their terms and conditions. Basically they are going to stop their algorithms from recommending "conspiracy videos" and any thing else they deem to be fake news. In the video this guy comments on some thing he put forward that got him flagged that turned out to be totally true. So basically he was flagged for publishing some thing that contradicted CNN or some shit like that. What this basically means is that they are going to start editing out desenting opinion. They are not technically censoring these videos. If you search for them by name they will still pop up. But they will not pop up on your home page recommendations or along side other videos as recommendations. Basically it's just one more thing for people to get their panties in a wad about. So moving on to the actual idea that I'd like to put forward and discus. Let's say you were a web page designer with a good grasp of search algorithms. Youtube doesn't seem to have any problem with any one linking to their videos. Come one, come all, watch our adds. So lets say this bright boy, the next internet billionaire, lets call him Bob Gates, builds a web page that looks just like the home page of youtube, that you sign into just like youtube, with recommended videos for you just like you tube. Lets call it YourTube.com It tracks your viewing and likes and every thing else just like you tube does. Links from it just go to youtube. Their videos, their page, their advertising so you are not depriving them of any of their business. What this home page has going for it is an unbiased set of algorithms recommending to you the videos that you would actually want to see based on your interest, subscriptions, likes, etc. Rather then trying to build competitive content, use you tube as an archive with a new indexing on top of it. It only increases their traffic but you are offering it with out all the political censorship that people are screaming about. It's not a solution for content that has been banned by youtube, that just wouldn't be there. There is a lot of contact that has been demonotised or pushed down on the search results or now removed from the recommendations. Which basically means that you will never see it. Unless you already know the title and search for it you can't find it. This puts those non favored content creators back on equal footing with their more PC counter parts and goes a long way towards equalizing it as a public square for conversation once again. This is totally straight out of my ass. I have no idea how to do this or if it could be done. I am not Bob Gates. I'm just tossing this idea out into the wind to see what happens. Tell me how stupid it is. Begin... Lee Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #2 January 27, 2019 Youtube is able to identify the content of the videos and assign metadata tags to them by doing machine analytics against the video looking for keywords and other content. The metadata is only partially exposed via their API so that once again the third party pages are not able to get that data to do this. Third parties are also not able to create and insert metadata tagging on videos outside ones that they have write access to. The only way you would be able to see that "Moon landing never happened" video would still need to be to search directly for it or subscribe to the content creator directly to see their content explicitly. I'll be moving this out of Bonfire also. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RiggerLee 63 #3 January 27, 2019 Thanks, that's exactly the kind of answer that I was hoping for but I don't fully understand it. Some of the terms like API are beyond me. I don't have a good grasp of the mechanics of how this works. I can't even deal with a sewing machine that's less then 20 years old. Are you saying that they do voice recognition or other things when they classify videos beyond the information provided about it? And that these key words or tags are hidden some how? I was under the impression that... spiders? or some kind of program went out and mapped every thing about every web page? Any subject I type in to google will in addition to web sites pop up endless you tube videos on that subject. Looked up how to change a starter motor the other day. I thought all of these key words and links were public in order to maximize their traffic. Some one told me that all web pages have hidden key words embedded in them beyond the visible text to help search engines find them. STARTER, ENGINE, HONDA, 4 WHEELER... etc imprinted into them just for this purpose. If you tube is trying to keep their content secret and propitiatory they seem to be doing a very poor job. Lee Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites