Gorsuch casts deciding SCOTUS vote against deporting immigrant

[ryoder 1,590]

http://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/383512-supreme-court-invalidates-law-requiring-the-deportation-of

I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of tweets suddenly cried out in rage.

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[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

ryoder

http://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/383512-supreme-court-invalidates-law-requiring-the-deportation-of

I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of tweets xenophobic idiots suddenly cried out in rage.

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While it's politically amusing to see the situation, personally I think the guy should be deported and the vagueness of the law is hindering it and is a real problem.

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Justice Department Spokesman Devin O’Malley, meanwhile, pushed for congressional action in the wake of the court’s ruling.

“The Justice Department believes that certain crimes committed by an illegal alien, visa holder, or an alien otherwise granted lawful status in the United States, should trigger their removal,” he said in a statement.

I agree - as long as you're a guest in someone's home your behavior needs to be impeccable. Get your feet off the couch and stop raiding the fridge!

For me, any crime that cannot reasonably be committed accidentally is grounds for deportation for a non-citizen. You know the rules and if you choose to break them then we don't want you here - it's that simple.

[kallend 2,147]

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I agree - as long as you're a guest in someone's home your behavior needs to be impeccable. Get your feet off the couch and stop raiding the fridge!

I think you'll change your tune when the roads become clogged with every green card holder, H1B visa holder, J1 visa holder, F1 visa holder, etc. driving impeccably at the listed speed limit or below.

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[gowlerk 2,275]

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For me, any crime that cannot reasonably be committed accidentally is grounds for deportation for a non-citizen. You know the rules and if you choose to break them then we don't want you here - it's that simple.

But that's not what the law says. Maybe it should, but it doesn't. The ruling today was that the law is unclear. And that it is important for everyone that it be clear.

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gowlerk

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For me, any crime that cannot reasonably be committed accidentally is grounds for deportation for a non-citizen. You know the rules and if you choose to break them then we don't want you here - it's that simple.

But that's not what the law says. Maybe it should, but it doesn't. The ruling today was that the law is unclear. And that it is important for everyone that it be clear.

Absolutely.

And my opinion is that the law needs to change to remove the ambiguity. For now SCOTUS made the correct decision - I simply don't agree with why they had to make it.

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kallend

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I agree - as long as you're a guest in someone's home your behavior needs to be impeccable. Get your feet off the couch and stop raiding the fridge!

I think you'll change your tune when the roads become clogged with every green card holder, H1B visa holder, J1 visa holder, F1 visa holder, etc. driving impeccably at the listed speed limit or below.

I chose my phrasing very carefully. It's easy to accidentally go over the speed limit. It's easy to miss a deadline on a parking ticket - those situations can be reasonably explained by accidents. Burglary? Not so much.

[billvon 3,114]

>I think you'll change your tune when the roads become clogged with every green card
>holder, H1B visa holder, J1 visa holder, F1 visa holder, etc. driving impeccably at the listed
>speed limit or below.

Or - more to the point - you might see green card holders, visa holders etc deciding to not burglarize homes in record numbers. O the horror. How will society cope?

[GeorgiaDon 379]

ryoder

http://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/383512-supreme-court-invalidates-law-requiring-the-deportation-of

I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of tweets suddenly cried out in rage.

Of course, not long ago Gorsuch voted with the conservative majority to rule that lawful immigrants (including permanent residents), as well as people applying for asylum and undocumented people, can be held indefinitely and they are not entitled to a bond hearing (link). The person at the center of the case was a permanent resident who was convicted years ago of "joyriding" and misdemeanor possession of a controlled substance. He was picked up by ICE (under the Obama administration BTW) and held for more than three years with no court date in sight before the Ninth Circuit court ruled that he was entitled to a bond hearing and ordered his release. That ruling was overturned by the Supreme Court.

Welcome to America, the land where you can be picked up and held in jail for years without your "day*" in court.
*"day" typically being 5-7 minutes

Don

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