US Veterans being denied passports

[billvon 3,131]

The latest attack on hispanics has begun. The Trump administration has ramped up denial of US passports to people born near the border because they might not be US citizens.

One example is Juan (last name withheld.) He was born in Brownsville TX, served in the Army for three years, then worked for the Border Patrol and as a prison guard. Now he has been denied a passport because the US does not believe he's really a citizen.

He protested this; the State Department asked him for more proof, including his hospital records, baptismal certificate, rental agreements from when he was a baby. He provided them. He was denied a second time.

He doesn't know where to turn to now. “I served my country. I fought for my country," he said in an interview.

I eagerly await the Trump apologists defense of this attack on US veterans.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/us-is-denying-passports-to-americans-along-the-border-throwing-their-citizenship-into-question/2018/08/29/1d630e84-a0da-11e8-a3dd-2a1991f075d5_story.html?utm_term=.6553fbcc9420

[airdvr 210]

billvon

The latest attack on hispanics has begun. The Trump administration has ramped up denial of US passports to people born near the border because they might not be US citizens.

One example is Juan (last name withheld.) He was born in Brownsville TX, served in the Army for three years, then worked for the Border Patrol and as a prison guard. Now he has been denied a passport because the US does not believe he's really a citizen.

He protested this; the State Department asked him for more proof, including his hospital records, baptismal certificate, rental agreements from when he was a baby. He provided them. He was denied a second time.

He doesn't know where to turn to now. “I served my country. I fought for my country," he said in an interview.

I eagerly await the Trump apologists defense of this attack on US veterans.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/us-is-denying-passports-to-americans-along-the-border-throwing-their-citizenship-into-question/2018/08/29/1d630e84-a0da-11e8-a3dd-2a1991f075d5_story.html?utm_term=.6553fbcc9420

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Based on those suspicions, the State Department during the George W. Bush and Barack Obama administrations denied passports to people who were delivered by midwives in Texas’s Rio Grande Valley. The use of midwives is a long-standing tradition in the region, in part because of the cost of hospital care.

Mmm...yea.

Please don't dent the planet.

Destinations by Roxanne

[billvon 3,131]

>Mmm...yea.

Didn't read the article, did you. Just found a sound bite. About what I expected.

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

billvon

>Mmm...yea.

Didn't read the article, did you. Just found a sound bite. About what I expected.

And a paragraph below what he posted:

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A 2009 government settlement in a case litigated by the American Civil Liberties Union seemed to have mostly put an end to the passport denials. Attorneys reported that the number of denials declined during the rest of the Obama administration, and the government settled promptly when people filed complaints after being denied passports.
But under President Trump, the passport denials and revocations appear to be surging, becoming part of a broader interrogation into the citizenship of people who have lived, voted and worked in the United States for their entire lives.

So it was litigated, a solution found and denials decreased...

Until the Mango Mussolini and his xenophobic policies.

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[billvon 3,131]

>And a paragraph below what he posted:

Yep. That's what passes for critical thought nowadays. Skim an article until you get the sound bite that fits your agenda, then stop reading and post it.

There is another poster here who is famous for that, and often posts articles that contradict his own claims - because he stopped reading as soon as he saw anything close to what he wanted.

[Stumpy 284]

billvon

Yep. That's what passes for critical thought nowadays. Skim an article until you get the sound bite that fits your agenda, then stop reading and post it.

To be fair, they are only taking their cue from the mango mussolini.

Never try to eat more than you can lift

[billvon 3,131]

>To be fair, they are only taking their cue from the mango mussolini.

Trump doesn't read at all. He doesn't even listen to his advisers or staff. He watches FOX News. That's about it.
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Trump Regularly Ignores Kelly, Schedules Meetings Based On ‘Fox And Friends’

By Nicole Lafond TPM
July 30, 2018 7:19 am

As John Kelly quietly tucks a year of service as President Trump’s chief of staff under his belt, Trump’s friends and outside advisers suggest Kelly has no actual power over Trump, who reportedly wishes he didn’t have to deal with a head staffer, Politico reported.

Kelly’s increasingly waning influence in the West Wing is perhaps best illustrated in Trump’s penchant for scheduling meetings for himself on a whim. As one former White House official told Politico, Trump regularly makes appointments for the day based on what “Fox and Friends” decides to cover that morning.

“He comes down for the day, and whatever he saw on ‘Fox and Friends,’ he schedules meetings based on that,” a former White House official told Politico. “If it’s Iran, it’s ‘Get John Bolton down here!’ … If he’s seen something on TV or [was] talking to Hannity the night before, he’s got lots of flexibility to do whatever he wants to do.”

Trump reportedly makes his own schedule in a black appointment book and keeps track of the meetings he schedules on the fly with the help of his personal aide Madeline Westerhout, who then reports Trump’s appointments to Kelly’s office.

Kelly — whom a Republican close to the White House called a “chief of staff in name only” — is reportedly aware of how useless his efforts to maintain order have become. He regularly jokes with staff that he is “leaving and I’m not coming back” and has swapped early morning work hours for workout sessions at the gym.es it quietly.”
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[kallend 2,174]

Why would Cadet Bone Spurs with his five deferments care one iota about veterans, unless he can use them in a photo-op?

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wolfriverjoe

So it was litigated, a solution found and denials decreased...

Until the Mango Mussolini and his xenophobic policies.

That doesn't fit the Obama did it first narrative as well, though.

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[airdvr 210]

billvon

>Mmm...yea.

Didn't read the article, did you. Just found a sound bite. About what I expected.

I read the article Bill. Denials decreased but they've never stopped. It's been an issue for years and multiple presidents have been trying to get a handle on the problem.

Please don't dent the planet.

Destinations by Roxanne

[riggerrob 644]

Ah!
The old “nature versus nurture argument.”
After age 40, nurture dominates.

Place of birth might be an accurate measurement of citizenship among children.
But after a few decades serving federal government (US Army and Border Patrol) and state gorvernment (prison guard), his loyalty to the USA has been amply demonstrated.
It used to be that an immigrant could gain quick access to citizenship - in his new home - with an honourable military discharge issued in his new home.
Look at the French Foreign Legion.

[billvon 3,131]

>Denials decreased but they've never stopped.

Denials decreased; rejection of appeals disappeared.

Now denials are up tremendously, and US veterans are appealing - and being rejected.

Looks like the US supports its veterans. Unless they are Hispanic.

>multiple presidents have been trying to get a handle on the problem.

To Trump, hammering Hispanic veterans is a feature, not a problem.