airdvr 210 #1 August 29, 2017 Not surprising that none on here have called out the Mayor of Houston. Probably because he carries a (D) after his name. Even when the governor suggested evacuating the city might be a good idea, Mr. Turner declined.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,593 #2 August 29, 2017 You probably like Fox because they don't spin, too, huh... When Houston evacuated because of Rita, over 20 people died in the traffic melee. Fewer than 10 have died in Harvey last I heard. What standard do you think would be appropriate? Also, Houston itself isn't in as bad a shape as some outlying communities, that also didn't evacuate. But what do facts matter when there's a slam to be made? Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #3 August 29, 2017 You know you could google the topic to learn why: https://www.google.com/search?q=houston+evacuation&oq=houston+evacuation"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #4 August 29, 2017 wmw999You probably like Fox because they don't spin, too, huh... When Houston evacuated because of Rita, over 20 people died in the traffic melee. Fewer than 10 have died in Harvey last I heard. What standard do you think would be appropriate? Also, Houston itself isn't in as bad a shape as some outlying communities, that also didn't evacuate. But what do facts matter when there's a slam to be made? Wendy P. We'll just have to see how this plays out. You're on record then as saying Houston shouldn't have been evacuated because 20 people might have died?Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 900 #5 August 29, 2017 Even the governor defended the decision, based on the information they had at the time, it was the right thing to do. ETA: I have zero clue what the lack of evacuation orders have to do with skin color. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #6 August 29, 2017 ryoderYou know you could google the topic to learn why: https://www.google.com/search?q=houston+evacuation&oq=houston+evacuation Top 3 in your search...CNN, NPR, and NY Times. All spinning why it was OK. And yet the evacuation orders are flying in now. I understand...the Mayor is a Dem and above reproach.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #7 August 29, 2017 normissETA: I have zero clue what the lack of evacuation orders have to do with skin color. It's a play on words for the Kanye blurt. You knew what it was. Don't be obtuse.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 900 #8 August 29, 2017 No clue what the Kanye blurt means, but if it's from Kanye I'm not interested. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #9 August 29, 2017 airdvr***You know you could google the topic to learn why: https://www.google.com/search?q=houston+evacuation&oq=houston+evacuation Top 3 in your search...CNN, NPR, and NY Times. All spinning why it was OK. And yet the evacuation orders are flying in now. I understand...the Mayor is a Dem and above reproach. Trump cut FEMA and Flood Insurance funding to free up funding for his wall. I don't see you posting anything about that. Must be because he has an R behind his name. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,121 #10 August 29, 2017 >Sylvester Turner hates black people Because he thought evacuation was a bad idea? Much of America hates black people, then, by your standards. Including the governor of Texas, who has an R after his name. But why would you claim "they hate blacks" and not "they hate whites?" 50% of Houston is white; 25% is black. So in that sort of crazy-straw logic, wouldn't it mean that Sylvester Turner hates white people? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CygnusX-1 43 #11 August 29, 2017 I have refused to evacuate my house during the past 4 hurricanes that came over FL. Does that mean I hate black people too? Please someone tell me. I really need to know if I'm racist! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,121 #12 August 29, 2017 > I really need to know if I'm racist! Only if you are a democrat. If you're a republican you'll be lauded as a non-politically-correct realist. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,186 #13 August 29, 2017 SkyDekker******You know you could google the topic to learn why: https://www.google.com/search?q=houston+evacuation&oq=houston+evacuation Top 3 in your search...CNN, NPR, and NY Times. All spinning why it was OK. And yet the evacuation orders are flying in now. I understand...the Mayor is a Dem and above reproach. Trump cut FEMA and Flood Insurance funding to free up funding for his wall. I don't see you posting anything about that. Must be because he has an R behind his name. When President Trump released his proposed budget earlier this year, it included cuts across the board — including hundreds of millions from programs that help Americans cope with disasters like Hurricane Harvey. Throughout last fall's election, President Trump called for cutting billions in waste out of Washington. The White House's proposed fiscal 2018 budget, released this past May, attempts to make good on those promises. Hefty cuts are proposed for the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), the agency charged with overseeing the government's response to natural disasters, as well as the National Weather Service and the government's flood insurance programs. http://time.com/money/4918458/trump-budget-targest-disaster-response/ Yet now trump is too happy to authorize spending. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,277 #14 August 29, 2017 QuoteWe'll just have to see how this plays out. You're on record then as saying Houston shouldn't have been evacuated because 20 people might have died? Harris County has a population of about 6 million people. Evacuation was never a serious option.Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grimmie 186 #15 August 29, 2017 airdvrNot surprising that none on here have called out the Mayor of Houston. Probably because he carries a (D) after his name. Even when the governor suggested evacuating the city might be a good idea, Mr. Turner declined. Playing politics with a natural disaster I see. Nice. The mayor seems like a stand up guy and is doing all he can and seems to be performing well. I'm not sure if you have ever been involved working within the framework of a natural disaster. Hard decisions are made with the info available, sometimes quickly, and sometimes not always the correct ones. Back to your regularly scheduled politics. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #16 August 29, 2017 grimmie***Not surprising that none on here have called out the Mayor of Houston. Probably because he carries a (D) after his name. Even when the governor suggested evacuating the city might be a good idea, Mr. Turner declined. Playing politics with a natural disaster I see. Nice. The mayor seems like a stand up guy and is doing all he can and seems to be performing well. I'm not sure if you have ever been involved working within the framework of a natural disaster. Hard decisions are made with the info available, sometimes quickly, and sometimes not always the correct ones. Back to your regularly scheduled politics. Nice try. From your post in 2008...QuoteI won't even go into Katrina and the other failures of our government. I guess it's not a failure if a Dem is making hard decisionsPlease don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,156 #17 August 29, 2017 airdvr Nice try. From your post in 2008...QuoteI won't even go into Katrina and the other failures of our government. I guess it's not a failure if a Dem is making hard decisions www.c-span.org/video/?c4548480/katrina-10-years-later-brownie-youre-heck-job... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,593 #18 August 30, 2017 Houston has been lucky enough to, by and large, have natural-born administrators as mayor. And they don't, as a rule at least, see the job as a stepping stone to "greatness." None has been perfect, but they've mostly been consistent with what they ran on. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grimmie 186 #19 August 30, 2017 Katrina was a massive failure at the federal level, and you know it. Apples. Oranges. Nice try. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #20 August 30, 2017 grimmieKatrina was a massive failure at the federal level, and you know it. Apples. Oranges. Nice try. You said "Hard decisions are made with the info available, sometimes quickly, and sometimes not always the correct ones." Are you saying Turner's decision isn't the correct one? Or are you saying that hard decisions were made W/R/T Katrina?Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,593 #21 August 30, 2017 The conventional wisdom on hurricanes is that you don't run away from wind (generally), but you do run away from storm surge. Rita, in 2005 (I think), was originally projected to be a force 5 going straight up the Houston Ship Channel (ugly). Many evacuated, more probably spent the night next to some freeway or another. I believe over 20 people died in the evacuation traffic, and it, like every other decision, was roundly derided. There aren't a lot of absolutely best answers. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 900 #22 August 30, 2017 With new, updated information, hindsight is always 20/20. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,277 #23 August 30, 2017 QuoteI understand...the Mayor is a Dem and above reproach. Quote Sylvester Turner hates black people Your hate is showing. Maybe you should tuck it in.Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #24 August 30, 2017 gowlerkQuoteI understand...the Mayor is a Dem and above reproach. *** Sylvester Turner hates black people Your hate is showing. Maybe you should tuck it in. You're correct. Absolutely hate hypocrites.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,121 #25 August 30, 2017 >You're correct. Absolutely hate hypocrites. Are you admitting you are wrong? Or just trying to change the topic? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites