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A few good things to come out of Charlottesville

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Real patriots are like the 156,000 Allied troops who stormed a handful of beaches along the coast of Normandy on June 6, 1944 in order to free the world from Nazism and fascism.


"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

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Real patriots are like the 156,000 Allied troops who stormed a handful of beaches along the coast of Normandy on June 6, 1944 in order to free the world from Nazism and fascism.



I hope they had their permits to land there!!!
"I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

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normiss

Google didn't even add the domain to their DNS servers.
BOOM!



It is getting more complicated, but Russia to the rescue!

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/08/racist-daily-stormer-goes-down-again-as-cloudflare-drops-support/

Wait a minute;
Didn't Russia have a misunderstanding with Nazi's a few decades back?:S
"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

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wolfriverjoe


Well, you have to understand a couple things.

#1 - The South has been trying to "revise" history since shortly after the war. While the claim "it was about States' Rights, not slavery has some truth, the main "State's Right" they were fighting for was slavery.

#2 - Most of those monuments were not put up immediately after the Civil War.
Many were put up in the early 1900s, when states began codifying segregation into law.
More were put up in the 50s, when the Civil Rights movement began to pick up steam.

#3 - The Battle flag so commonly flown Southerners was simply the battle flag of the Army of Northern Virginia (Lee's army). It was never the flag of the Confederacy. It wasn't even the "Stars & Bars' (different flag).
It was relegated to history and obscurity until the 50s when the KKK adopted it as their symbol.
Kind of like how the swasika was a sign mainly used by Buddhists until the early 30s, and has since (and likely will for a long, long time) be recognized primarily as the symbol of the Nazis.

Interesting Story on this, and a bit more.



Oh I know, my question is rhetorical. I'm married to a Southerner, and it took some time to get her to give up the idea that that flag is anything but a symbol of treason. I know exactly when those statues went up and why. It's just something you don't generally find in most places.

The sole state right they were fighting for was slavery, which, ironically, was states had no right to outlaw under the Confederate constitution. To suggest the war was about anything other than preserving slavery is lunacy, but this argument is frequently made by people who also don't get that the South started it.

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Real patriots are like the 156,000 Allied troops who stormed a handful of beaches along the coast of Normandy on June 6, 1944 in order to free the world from Nazism and fascism.



I hope they had their permits to land there!!!

Where is the like button? :D

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Real patriots are like the 156,000 Allied troops who stormed a handful of beaches along the coast of Normandy on June 6, 1944 in order to free the world from Nazism and fascism.



I hope they had their permits to land there!!!

No they didn't. And they were very, very violent. SAD!
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WaPo: Removing a slavery defender’s statue: Roger B. Taney wrote one of Supreme Court’s worst rulings
(take the first link at the top)
https://www.google.com/search?q=Removing+a+slavery+defender%E2%80%99s+statue%3A+Roger+B.+Taney+wrote+one+of+Supreme+Court%E2%80%99s+worst+rulings+site%3Awashingtonpost.com&oq=Removing+a+slavery+defender%E2%80%99s+statue%3A+Roger+B.+Taney+wrote+one+of+Supreme+Court%E2%80%99s+worst+rulings+site%3Awashingtonpost.com&aqs=chrome..69i57.8486j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Good riddance!
A few months back I was reading a Constitutional law textbook, and watching video lectures by Yale law prof Akhil Amar. The more you learn about Taney, the more you realize what an asshole he was.>:(

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kallend


I believe Bannon's departure is a good thing, and likely prompted by the Charlottesville incident.



And a very interesting one, since Bannon was the reason many Trumpets are Trumpets, but there are at least reports of some serious schisms between the two.
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I suppose another good thing is the tearing down of those memorials that were put up by racist, anti-integration, KKK member Democrats so many years ago.


I mean who want to know the real history of this country anymore anyway?
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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rushmc

I suppose another good thing is the tearing down of those memorials that were put up by racist, anti-integration, KKK member Democrats so many years ago.


I mean who want to know the real history of this country anymore anyway?



Apparently you are only able to know the real history when there is a statue. Most of us are able to read so can use other resources, like books and written text.

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SkyDekker

***I suppose another good thing is the tearing down of those memorials that were put up by racist, anti-integration, KKK member Democrats so many years ago.


I mean who want to know the real history of this country anymore anyway?



Apparently you are only able to know the real history when there is a statue. Most of us are able to read so can use other resources, like books and written text.

Well, if you can, you should start.
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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I mean who want to know the real history of this country anymore anyway?




I'm Canadian an even I am well aware that Lincoln was a Republican. And that till the 60's and the Johnson administration, the Dixiecrats were the party of Jim Crow in the south. Until Nixon figured out a way to harness their anger over the Civil Rights Act and racism and completely changed the strategic focus of the Rs. All very interesting, and a good study of how party politics can change.

But your hatred of the D party has nothing to do with their past and everything to do with the progressive liberalism they represent today. The way you keep harping on this subject makes me almost suspect that you might possibly be slightly hypocritical.
Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

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Yaaaaa, right.

Which party had a US senator that was a klansman?
Which party had a state gov that stood in the door of a school and said no integration?

http://www.history.com/topics/ku-klux-klan

And for an emotional response you post?
Projection on your part. I think that hatred you like to spew is all yours.

And you have proved that you do not care about hypocrisy. Nice try though....
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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rushmc

I suppose another good thing is the tearing down of those memorials that were put up by racist, anti-integration, KKK member Democrats so many years ago.


I mean who want to know the real history of this country anymore anyway?



Does it make you feel better that it was Democrats who were on the wrong side of morality 150 years ago, 100 years ago, and 50 years ago? That's just fine, let's more along.
"I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

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Hi rush,

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Which party had a US senator that was a klansman?
Which party had a state gov that stood in the door of a school and said no integration?



That is on par with what I did in the back seat of a car at 17 defines the person that I am now.

What party is providing the most support to the KKK today?

Jerry Baumchen

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rushmc



I mean who want to know the real history of this country anymore anyway?



Yet another nonsense post - and I mean that literally. It makes no sense...

Not having a statue of something doesn't mean you automatically reject its history, or ignore the history of every other person and event that doesn't have a statue.

Your post is simply preamble into a pointless Democrats vs Republicans argument which is the only view you're even remotely capable of having, it seems. I've seen toddlers with more granular thinking than you're capable of.

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