RonD1120 62 #1 June 21, 2017 QuoteDemocrats continued their special election losing streak on Tuesday as one of the party’s bright hopes, Jon Ossoff, lost his bid for a suburban Atlanta Congressional seat long held by Republicans—a painful defeat that highlights deep fissures in the party. http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ossoff-loss-underscores-lefts-fissures-in-trump-era/ar-BBCY7pp?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp The ads for Ossoff were slick, professional and very expensive but they were not good enough. He looked and sounded like a Caucasian Obama. The Democrats are going to have to do better. They are going to have to learn to compete with ideas and stop trying to buy the votes of the uninformed voter.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #2 June 21, 2017 RonD1120QuoteDemocrats continued their special election losing streak on Tuesday as one of the party’s bright hopes, Jon Ossoff, lost his bid for a suburban Atlanta Congressional seat long held by Republicans—a painful defeat that highlights deep fissures in the party. http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ossoff-loss-underscores-lefts-fissures-in-trump-era/ar-BBCY7pp?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp The ads for Ossoff were slick, professional and very expensive but they were not good enough. He looked and sounded like a Caucasian Obama. The Democrats are going to have to do better. They are going to have to learn to compete with ideas and stop trying to buy the votes of the uninformed voter. Damn! We were so expecting Hope and Change! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wan2doit 6 #3 June 21, 2017 Personally I think there may be many mostly unknown supporters of President Trump and his ideas. They may never come out publicly to support him (even among their friends) but when voting or writing to support or oppose various issues - the truth becomes apparent. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,248 #4 June 21, 2017 wan2doitPersonally I think there may be many mostly unknown supporters of President Trump and his ideas. They may never come out publicly to support him (even among their friends) but when voting or writing to support or oppose various issues - the truth becomes apparent. Everyone outside the district think it was a trump referendum. Those inside have local issues and traditional political leanings which drive their votes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skwrl 56 #5 June 21, 2017 Phil1111***Personally I think there may be many mostly unknown supporters of President Trump and his ideas. They may never come out publicly to support him (even among their friends) but when voting or writing to support or oppose various issues - the truth becomes apparent. Everyone outside the district think it was a trump referendum. Those inside have local issues and traditional political leanings which drive their votes. This was what I was thinking - I mean, wouldn't it be deeply shocking if a Democrat had taken a seat that hasn't voted blue in well over three decades. Anyone who is thinking "hurrr durrr, this proves people love Trump" is as deluded as the Democrats who believed it was a possibility they'd win the seat.Skwrl Productions - Wingsuit Photography Northeast Bird School - Chief Logistics Guy and Video Dork Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,248 #6 June 21, 2017 Skwrl******Personally I think there may be many mostly unknown supporters of President Trump and his ideas. They may never come out publicly to support him (even among their friends) but when voting or writing to support or oppose various issues - the truth becomes apparent. Everyone outside the district think it was a trump referendum. Those inside have local issues and traditional political leanings which drive their votes. This was what I was thinking - I mean, wouldn't it be deeply shocking if a Democrat had taken a seat that hasn't voted blue in well over three decades. Anyone who is thinking "hurrr durrr, this proves people love Trump" is as deluded as the Democrats who believed it was a possibility they'd win the seat. Democrats need to reconnect with underemployed Americans who are employed but working at lower wages than before the last recession. trump was right on the money with his: "Last week was good for apprenticeships. President Trump’s ringing call for expanding apprenticeship at a White House ceremony on Thursday should be welcome to all who favor a cost-effective approach to upgrading skills, raising job quality and widening routes to rewarding careers. The president’s first steps to achieve this goal were signing an executive order titled “Expanding Apprenticeship in America” and nearly doubling the funding for apprenticeships to $200 million." http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/labor/338329-appreciating-apprenticeships-trump-plan-a-good-start Its fine to talk the Paris accord but in the polling booth when the rubber meets the road. Its all about meat and potatoes. Jobs,Jobs and more jobs. has been a mantra for politicians for centuries. The mistake trump made was it should have been $400 million to a couple billion. With carrots and sticks for companies and universities to force them into marriages of convenience to better service a changing labor market. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,486 #7 June 21, 2017 Hi Phil, Quoteunderemployed Americans Quotecall for expanding apprenticeship This might just work for the younger ones in the group. However, the 'apprentiship' programs ( IMO ) will never work for the older unemployed. They do not want to learn a new trade ( as if some of them could ), they just want their old jobs back. And that is not going to happen. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Channman 2 #8 June 21, 2017 winsor***QuoteDemocrats continued their special election losing streak on Tuesday as one of the party’s bright hopes, Jon Ossoff, lost his bid for a suburban Atlanta Congressional seat long held by Republicans—a painful defeat that highlights deep fissures in the party. http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ossoff-loss-underscores-lefts-fissures-in-trump-era/ar-BBCY7pp?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp The ads for Ossoff were slick, professional and very expensive but they were not good enough. He looked and sounded like a Caucasian Obama. The Democrats are going to have to do better. They are going to have to learn to compete with ideas and stop trying to buy the votes of the uninformed voter. Damn! We were so expecting Hope and Change! All them POLLs...ALL THAT Left Coast Money$$$$...I'm laughing my Ossoff. All this Winning, and Winning...don't know if I can take it anymore. Damn almost at 2100 Post, going to have to pace myself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #9 June 21, 2017 Channman All them POLLs...ALL THAT Left Coast Money$$$$...I'm laughing my Ossoff. All this Winning, and Winning...don't know if I can take it anymore. Damn almost at 2100 Post, going to have to pace myself. I heard on the radio this morning that Ralph Norman, the Republican winner in South Carolina, ran ads showing him in opposition to Nancy Pelosi.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Channman 2 #10 June 21, 2017 RonD1120 *** All them POLLs...ALL THAT Left Coast Money$$$$...I'm laughing my Ossoff. All this Winning, and Winning...don't know if I can take it anymore. Damn almost at 2100 Post, going to have to pace myself. I heard on the radio this morning that Ralph Norman, the Republican winner in South Carolina, ran ads showing him in opposition to Nancy Pelosi. Another WIN!!!...please stop, tell me no more, just has to be horrible for ya...there is just to much winning going on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 284 #11 June 21, 2017 Meh. The R's have lost around 20 points in the last year - seems to be going in very much the right direction.Never try to eat more than you can lift Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rick 67 #12 June 22, 2017 JerryBaumchenHi Phil, Quoteunderemployed Americans ***call for expanding apprenticeship This might just work for the younger ones in the group. However, the 'apprentiship' programs ( IMO ) will never work for the older unemployed. They do not want to learn a new trade ( as if some of them could ), they just want their old jobs back. And that is not going to happen. Jerry Baumchen "change with the times of get left behind" if the options are learn a new trade or don't pay the rent I will go with learn a new tradeYou can't be drunk all day if you don't start early! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,248 #13 June 22, 2017 Rick***Hi Phil, Quoteunderemployed Americans ***call for expanding apprenticeship This might just work for the younger ones in the group. However, the 'apprentiship' programs ( IMO ) will never work for the older unemployed. They do not want to learn a new trade ( as if some of them could ), they just want their old jobs back. And that is not going to happen. Jerry Baumchen "change with the times of get left behind" if the options are learn a new trade or don't pay the rent I will go with learn a new trade I know what you are both saying. Older workers are reluctant to retrain if the number or years to use the training is limited by age-retirement. Younger workers see "x' number of years of well paid employment beyond retraining. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/apr/21/tech-industry-coding-kentucky-hillbillies https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOWWXMZ641U Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rick 67 #14 June 22, 2017 “Silicon Holler” love it You can't be drunk all day if you don't start early! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,632 #15 June 22, 2017 Older workers, even retrained, are often less desirable to companies looking to hire "assets." They don't have as long a future, they potentially have more health problems, and they generally have higher living expenses, because they're not still living as though they're in college. Companies want new workers to come in knowing exactly how to use the tools the company uses, and unquestioningly use them as directed. Apprenticeship programs tend to train one for a job with a future. They don't see that future in older workers, and many older workers don't either. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites