billvon 3,102 #26 May 26, 2017 >The President of the United States should never walk behind another national leader. But he should bow to them, apparently. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,166 #27 May 26, 2017 billvon>The President of the United States should never walk behind another national leader. But he should bow to them, apparently. Absolutely. trump recognizes the Saudi ability to award trump, Kushner enterprises billions in business. Prime Minister Dusko Markovic, who is a Montenegro? Peasants to the side, let me through. The new imperialism is here to rule. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #28 May 26, 2017 Iago ***https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhBcgB_GZD4 Man, what a wonderful free public day we had today, wonderful sunshine, listening to Obama live in Berlin ... and now this - Trump in Brussels, a gentleman from head to toe ..... Hahahaha, a world leader, indeed! Well, the US really is the head of NATO so I don't see why the President shouldn't be up front for the pictures at a NATO meeting. Having the US in front does free up the rest of you to spend your capital on things like free healthcare, free this, free that, so quit your bitchin'. We've got you covered on the defense front. Do you think that maybe they would have taken a minute or two to organize the people in an appropriate order? Do you think that they would have snubbed the US as far as where Trump got to stand in the picture? Could Trump have waited one or two seconds for a path to open up? Or does his narcissism dictate that he be in front all the time? And does his insecurity dictate that he has to be in front right now or maybe they'll take the pic without him in front? He needs someone to tell him when he's acting rudely and insensitively (he's doing it again)."There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,102 #29 May 26, 2017 Quote Now they flip out because there is a President unafraid to demand the level of respect that comes with being in the driver seat of the free world. Unless it's the Saudis; then he bows and grovels. I find that the people I admire the most earn their respect - they don't demand it by shoving others aside. But that's just me. Many people prefer powerful strongmen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #30 May 26, 2017 billvonQuote Now they flip out because there is a President unafraid to demand the level of respect that comes with being in the driver seat of the free world. Unless it's the Saudis; then he bows and grovels. I find that the people I admire the most earn their respect - they don't demand it by shoving others aside. But that's just me. Many people prefer powerful strongmen. And once again you don't know what happened in the prior minute...or 5...or 10.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,583 #31 May 26, 2017 There was no 8-year apology tour. There was a concession that there might be more than one way to look at world affairs, and that we are part of the world, not its head honcho (and we don't want that job, because it comes with responsibilities, not just whim, power, and adulation). And I do think respect needs to be earned, but respectful treatment can be, if not demanded, at least shamed into being. Think of the CEO of a public corporation who just shuts up everyone on the BOD because "she's the boss." That kind of leader, by ignoring information that doesn't match their story, delivers lesser results in complex situations. That might be less flashy, but whom does the CEO (or president) serve? Themselves, or the entity? Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,166 #32 May 26, 2017 Iago *********https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhBcgB_GZD4 Man, what a wonderful free public day we had today, wonderful sunshine, listening to Obama live in Berlin ... and now this - Trump in Brussels, a gentleman from head to toe ..... Hahahaha, a world leader, indeed! Well, the US really is the head of NATO so I don't see why the President shouldn't be up front for the pictures at a NATO meeting. Having the US in front does free up the rest of you to spend your capital on things like free healthcare, free this, free that, so quit your bitchin'. We've got you covered on the defense front. Do you think that maybe they would have taken a minute or two to organize the people in an appropriate order? Do you think that they would have snubbed the US as far as where Trump got to stand in the picture? Could Trump have waited one or two seconds for a path to open up? Or does his narcissism dictate that he be in front all the time? And does his insecurity dictate that he has to be in front right now or maybe they'll take the pic without him in front? He needs someone to tell him when he's acting rudely and insensitively (he's doing it again). Everyone has become acclimated to the eight year long Obama 'apology tour.' Now they flip out because there is a President unafraid to demand the level of respect that comes with being in the driver seat of the free world. No insult intended. Have you ever left the continental US? Or just a little early morning flippancy? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,102 #33 May 26, 2017 >And once again you don't know what happened in the prior minute...or 5...or 10. True. Perhaps 10 minutes ago someone tweeted something mean about Trump. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #34 May 26, 2017 QuoteI saw the Big O do as President was take a world-wide tour in AF1 to apologize to every other country in the world and tell them how much the US sucks. You may have seen it differently, but that was what I saw. To think he should have just gone to a golf course most weekends and shove some people on another and he would have had your adoration. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 235 #35 May 26, 2017 QuoteEveryone has become acclimated to the eight year long Obama 'apology tour.' Now they flip out because there is a President unafraid to demand the level of respect that comes with being in the driver seat of the free world. Are we equating "demanding respect" to pushing a foreign Head of State out of the way because he wants to be in front? That's the kind of thing people stopped doing in grade school."I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #36 May 26, 2017 It doesn't appear to be a big deal to those involved. QuoteInstead of being insulted, he took the opportunity to thank Trump for supporting Montenegro's membership in NATO. The small former Yugoslav republic is slated to become NATO's 29th member next month. And in any case, Markovic said, "it is natural that the president of the United States is in the front row." http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/world-leader-shoved-aside-by-trump-brands-incident-harmless/ar-BBBy8Kh?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhpLook for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #37 May 26, 2017 I noticed he didn't specifically articulate his support for Article 5, something his predecessors have done. Specially poignant to not do so at the site of a 9/11 memorial. Considering that was the only time it was ever invoked. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TriGirl 343 #38 May 26, 2017 RonD1120It doesn't appear to be a big deal to those involved. http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/world-leader-shoved-aside-by-trump-brands-incident-harmless/ar-BBBy8Kh?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp That's because Prime Minister Markovic is a) just happy to be there (yet to be inducted into NATO), and b) much more gracious of a diplomat. The Lithuanian president, on the other hand, is looking at POTUS like, "are you f*ing kidding me?"See the upside, and always wear your parachute! -- Christopher Titus Shut Up & Jump! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nolhtairt 0 #39 May 26, 2017 TriGirl***It doesn't appear to be a big deal to those involved. http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/world-leader-shoved-aside-by-trump-brands-incident-harmless/ar-BBBy8Kh?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp That's because Prime Minister Markovic is a) just happy to be there (yet to be inducted into NATO), and b) much more gracious of a diplomat. The Lithuanian president, on the other hand, is looking at POTUS like, "are you f*ing kidding me?" You think so? QuoteMarkovic himself, however, shrugged off the slight. "It didn't really register. I just saw reactions about it on social networks. It is simply a harmless situation," he told reporters after the summit. Instead of being insulted, he took the opportunity to thank Trump for supporting Montenegro's membership in NATO. The small former Yugoslav republic is slated to become NATO's 29th member next month. And in any case, Markovic said, "it is natural that the president of the United States is in the front row." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 284 #40 May 26, 2017 It's easy to confuse Lithuania and Montenegro I know. Actually, no, wait, it isn't. Never try to eat more than you can lift Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,102 #41 May 26, 2017 >It's easy to confuse Lithuania and Montenegro I know. Well, for Trump it would be a piece of cake. "I don't care what town he represents; he was in my way!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,166 #42 May 27, 2017 Iago ***************https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhBcgB_GZD4 Man, what a wonderful free public day we had today, wonderful sunshine, listening to Obama live in Berlin ... and now this - Trump in Brussels, a gentleman from head to toe ..... Hahahaha, a world leader, indeed! Well, the US really is the head of NATO so I don't see why the President shouldn't be up front for the pictures at a NATO meeting. Having the US in front does free up the rest of you to spend your capital on things like free healthcare, free this, free that, so quit your bitchin'. We've got you covered on the defense front. Do you think that maybe they would have taken a minute or two to organize the people in an appropriate order? Do you think that they would have snubbed the US as far as where Trump got to stand in the picture? Could Trump have waited one or two seconds for a path to open up? Or does his narcissism dictate that he be in front all the time? And does his insecurity dictate that he has to be in front right now or maybe they'll take the pic without him in front? He needs someone to tell him when he's acting rudely and insensitively (he's doing it again). Everyone has become acclimated to the eight year long Obama 'apology tour.' Now they flip out because there is a President unafraid to demand the level of respect that comes with being in the driver seat of the free world. No insult intended. Have you ever left the continental US? Or just a little early morning flippancy? Actually yes. Let's see- Germany, Belgium, Lux, France, Guyana interior savanah and jungle, Haiti back in the mountains, Brazil, Mexico, Nicaragua, probably a few more I forgot. Are you asking for a reason? And as a followup one of the first things I saw the Big O do as President was take a world-wide tour in AF1 to apologize to every other country in the world and tell them how much the US sucks. You may have seen it differently, but that was what I saw. When Donald Trump was seen brushing his way past Montenegro Prime Minister Dusko Markovic for a group photo at a NATO summit in Brussels this week, many Europeans came to the same conclusion: The American president came off looking like a bully... German comedian Jan Boehmermann also turned to Twitter to compare Trump to a hungry man barging his way past others to get to the front of the line for an all-you-can-eat buffet.... An American, Richard J. Martinez, said he has confronted widespread negativity while traveling in Europe this month. “Anytime someone hears we are from the States, a negative conversation ensues and instant judgment begins,” he said. “If you're traveling, try not to bring his name up.”.. “Trump is seen as the epitome of the ‘ugly American’,” Jaeger said. “He’s loud, uncouth, ignorant, disgustingly and flamboyantly rich.” Trump’s image as an outsider continued in Italy on Friday at the G-7 meeting in Taormina, Italy, where the distance between Trump and the others was as much physical as political. The presidents, chancellor and prime ministers of France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Canada and the United Kingdom walked the streets of Taormina. Trump followed in a golf cart. http://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-trump-europe-impressions-20170526-story.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RMK 3 #43 May 27, 2017 nolhtairt What language do aviation use in air traffic control communications world wide? English of course. The reasoning being that English is the most widely used (geographically) common language. This due to the British activities/colonies/exploration over centuries. Has "jack shit" to do with America."Pain is the best instructor, but no one wants to attend his classes" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,583 #44 May 27, 2017 On the plus side, Trump's view on climate change is apparently evolving (link). That's a good thing. The best project plan is the one you can get done with the team you actually have, not the team you wish you had. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #45 May 29, 2017 ... to be the American Pavarotti! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjI3EakOy-s I love the extremely smart expression on his face before starting to sing ...... dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,102 #46 May 29, 2017 >On the plus side, Trump's view on climate change is apparently evolving (link). Unfortunately, his pattern lately has been to share the opinion of the last person he talked to - so that could (and probably will) change pretty quickly. From Quartz: ===== . . . Trump’s constantly shifting policies could be charitably seen as clever expediency, but more and more often, it appears that the president is simply repeating the last thing he heard from an adviser, lobbyist, or head of state. Yesterday, for example, Trump, made a rapid about-face on two big economic issues. Having spent his campaign for president arguing that China has intentionally under-valued its currency and that the Federal Reserve is risking inflation with low interest rates, he abruptly reversed both of those positions in an interview with the Wall Street Journal. Now, China is not a manipulator, and Trump hinted that he may re-nominate Fed Chair Janet Yellen, who is seen as too dovish by many conservatives. These positions aren’t controversial among experts—China has been trying to keep its currency up, not down, and there’s an active debate over whether the Fed should wait before it hikes interest rates. But how did Trump come to conclusions diametrically opposed to his campaign trail promises? Here’s a hint: Treasury secretary Steve Mnuchin sat in on the interview. A former Goldman Sachs partner, Mnuchin is among the aides viewed as having a “globalist” or influence by the hardcore conservative nationalists also populating the White House. This isn’t the only time a Trump realization has been prompted by a nearby interlocutor. In February, he hosted a White House summit with health insurance executives. Trump, who confidently told voters “nobody knows the system better than me, which is why I alone can fix it,” emerged from the meeting a changed man. “Now, I have to tell you, it’s an unbelievably complex subject,” he said. “Nobody knew that health care could be so complicated.” Perhaps the most worrisome aspect of this on-the-job education came in a startling anecdote about Trump’s efforts to restrain North Korea’s burgeoning and belligerent nuclear program. US diplomats have worked for decades with China in an attempt to influence the isolated dictatorship, with little success. Trump, in his meetings with Chinese president Xi Jinping last week, expressed his view that China should be able to swiftly get North Korea back on the straight and narrow path. Xi quickly straightened Trump out by explaining the history of the region, Trump told the Journal. “After listening for 10 minutes, I realized it’s not so easy,” Trump told the Journal. “I felt pretty strongly that they had a tremendous power…but it’s not what you would think.” =========== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aphid 0 #47 May 31, 2017 christelsabine ... to be the American Pavarotti! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjI3EakOy-s I love the extremely smart expression on his face before starting to sing ...... I am surprised that with so many active and retired US military that populate our sport (and here on DizzyDotEtc) that this hasn't generated more, ummmm, "interest". After all, he is their Commander-in-Chief, representing a grateful and sombre nation for the men and women who have perished in service of their country, seen at the annual ceremony at Arlington. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skinnay 0 #48 May 31, 2017 aphid ***... to be the American Pavarotti! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjI3EakOy-s I love the extremely smart expression on his face before starting to sing ...... I am surprised that with so many active and retired US military that populate our sport (and here on DizzyDotEtc) that this hasn't generated more, ummmm, "interest". After all, he is their Commander-in-Chief, representing a grateful and sombre nation for the men and women who have perished in service of their country, seen at the annual ceremony at Arlington. Just imagine the "interest" if Obama did that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites