Court shoots down FAA registration for non-commercial drones

[ryoder 1,590]

https://techcrunch.com/2017/05/19/a-federal-appeals-court-shoots-down-the-faas-drone-registry-requirement/

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[kallend 2,150]

ryoder

https://techcrunch.com/2017/05/19/a-federal-appeals-court-shoots-down-the-faas-drone-registry-requirement/

Good.

Not even the FAA can override an Act of Congress.

We can now fly paper planes outdoors again without having to register with the government.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[nolhtairt 0]

kallend

***https://techcrunch.com/2017/05/19/a-federal-appeals-court-shoots-down-the-faas-drone-registry-requirement/

Good.

Not even the FAA can override an Act of Congress.

We can now fly paper planes outdoors again without having to register with the government.

Now if they would just drop the part where it's illegal to shoot down a drone that's right over your property with cameras on it being operated by an asshole.

[billvon 3,120]

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Now if they would just drop the part where it's illegal to shoot down a drone that's right over your property with cameras on it being operated by an asshole.

I am glad that no one is allowed to shoot down _any_ vehicle that flies overhead.

[kallend 2,150]

nolhtairt

******https://techcrunch.com/2017/05/19/a-federal-appeals-court-shoots-down-the-faas-drone-registry-requirement/

Good.

Not even the FAA can override an Act of Congress.

We can now fly paper planes outdoors again without having to register with the government.

Now if they would just drop the part where it's illegal to shoot down a drone that's right over your property with cameras on it being operated by an asshole.

Public Law 112-95 Sections 331-336 define unmanned aerial vehicles (aka "drones") as aircraft. They are therefore protected by federal law in the same way that any other aircraft is protected. Which makes it a federal crime to shoot at them.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

kallend

*********https://techcrunch.com/2017/05/19/a-federal-appeals-court-shoots-down-the-faas-drone-registry-requirement/

Good.

Not even the FAA can override an Act of Congress.

We can now fly paper planes outdoors again without having to register with the government.

Now if they would just drop the part where it's illegal to shoot down a drone that's right over your property with cameras on it being operated by an asshole.

Public Law 112-95 Sections 331-336 define unmanned aerial vehicles (aka "drones") as aircraft. They are therefore protected by federal law in the same way that any other aircraft is protected. Which makes it a federal crime to shoot at them.

How about nets, ropes or similar?

Seriously, what if some dingaling is videoing from a drone that's over my property, within easy reach (say 15 or 20 feet)?

While I agree that shooting them down is wrong, so is invading my privacy.

"There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy

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[nolhtairt 0]

wolfriverjoe

************https://techcrunch.com/2017/05/19/a-federal-appeals-court-shoots-down-the-faas-drone-registry-requirement/

Good.

Not even the FAA can override an Act of Congress.

We can now fly paper planes outdoors again without having to register with the government.

Now if they would just drop the part where it's illegal to shoot down a drone that's right over your property with cameras on it being operated by an asshole.

Public Law 112-95 Sections 331-336 define unmanned aerial vehicles (aka "drones") as aircraft. They are therefore protected by federal law in the same way that any other aircraft is protected. Which makes it a federal crime to shoot at them.

How about nets, ropes or similar?

Seriously, what if some dingaling is videoing from a drone that's over my property, within easy reach (say 15 or 20 feet)?

While I agree that shooting them down is wrong, so is invading my privacy.

Makes me so glad there are no houses in view from mine and the nearest one is over 100 yards away, across the street from me which is hidden by a curving driveway and over grown vegetation on both sides. I never have to worry about some dingbat asshole neighbor doing that shit, nor do I have to waste my ammo on their drones and get in trouble for it.

Keep your fucking drones over your property or take them out to a wide open space where privacy isn't an issue. Don't be an asshole, and nobody will be an asshole back to you.

[billvon 3,120]

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Keep your fucking drones over your property or take them out to a wide open space where privacy isn't an issue. Don't be an asshole, and nobody will be an asshole back to you.

Sounds like a certain farmer who used to border our DZ.

[nolhtairt 0]

billvon

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Keep your fucking drones over your property or take them out to a wide open space where privacy isn't an issue. Don't be an asshole, and nobody will be an asshole back to you.

Sounds like a certain farmer who used to border our DZ.

Well that's different. Skydivers gotta land somewhere and do it safely. As long as they do their best not to disturb crops, cause damage, etc...

[billvon 3,120]

>Well that's different.

Yeah, it always is.

Per the farmer, skydivers don't have to skydive, and why should their death wish make it OK to damage his crops?

[BartsDaddy 7]

It's not ok for them to damage his crops, and if they do they owe him for the damages.

Handguns are only used to fight your way to a good rifle

[billvon 3,120]

>It's not ok for them to damage his crops, and if they do they owe him for the damages.

Agreed. And if a drone owner damages someone else's property, he is likewise liable for it. We are all fortunate that in neither case is the property owner allowed to "shoot them down" (or lasso them, or use nets or traps.)

[BartsDaddy 7]

I agree But with how you worded it. It sounded like you thought he was out of line for being upset his crops were damaged.

Handguns are only used to fight your way to a good rifle

[JerryBaumchen 1,468]

Hi Joe,

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invading my privacy

I cannot give you the line & verse but I seem to remember that courts have ruled that you ( all of us ) do not have a right to privacy when out in the open, even when we are on our own property.

And I might be completely wrong on this.

Jerry Baumchen

[nolhtairt 0]

JerryBaumchen

Hi Joe,

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invading my privacy

I cannot give you the line & verse but I seem to remember that courts have ruled that you ( all of us ) do not have a right to privacy when out in the open, even when we are on our own property.

And I might be completely wrong on this.

Jerry Baumchen

Lets put it this way... I don't know what the privacy laws are, they vary from state to state, but if you have a swimming pool in your backyard that's surrounded by a privacy fence, you would expect to have that privacy, until some camera equipped drone appears over the fence to spy on you, your family, etc.

I'd have a problem with that.

[kallend 2,150]

nolhtairt

***Hi Joe,

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invading my privacy

I cannot give you the line & verse but I seem to remember that courts have ruled that you ( all of us ) do not have a right to privacy when out in the open, even when we are on our own property.

And I might be completely wrong on this.

Jerry Baumchen

Lets put it this way... I don't know what the privacy laws are, they vary from state to state, but if you have a swimming pool in your backyard that's surrounded by a privacy fence, you would expect to have that privacy, until some camera equipped drone appears over the fence to spy on you, your family, etc.

I'd have a problem with that.

But it's OK if it's a R-22 or an ultralight, right?

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[JerryBaumchen 1,468]

Hi nolhtairt,

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I'd have a problem with that.

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if you have a swimming pool in your backyard that's surrounded by a privacy fence, you would expect to have that privacy

And two days later your neighbor builds a tree house for his kids that sits 11 ft up in a tree. Now his kids can watch your kids swim.

Do you have a problem with that?

I'm not trying to give you a bad time, but we have little right to privacy when we are out in the open.

Jerry Baumchen

[BartsDaddy 7]

Well with drones with cameras it is a litle different then if you are out in public you are fair game. With drones it is possible to hover and record what is happening inside a house, just have to hover a foot away from the window. It is one thing to be on your property and being able to see your neighbor it is another thing to send a camera 5 feet above their property to film them in their pool or house.
The're has been at least one instance where somebody shot down a drone and no charges where filed. He was alleging that it was peeping on his teenage daughter.

Handguns are only used to fight your way to a good rifle

[nolhtairt 0]

BartsDaddy

Well with drones with cameras it is a litle different then if you are out in public you are fair game. With drones it is possible to hover and record what is happening inside a house, just have to hover a foot away from the window. It is one thing to be on your property and being able to see your neighbor it is another thing to send a camera 5 feet above their property to film them in their pool or house.
The're has been at least one instance where somebody shot down a drone and no charges where filed. He was alleging that it was peeping on his teenage daughter.

And then there was the recent case where an asshole neighbor was using his drone to terrorize the family dog, which then got sick of the bullshit and jumped up to nab the drone and destroy it. Asshole drone owner sued for loss of drone, dog owner counter-sued for vet hospital bills for injuries the dog suffered. Dog owner won.