No need for the EPA

[SkyDekker 1,465]

I am sure the free market principle will ensure that people won't eat food with these pesticides on them....

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/04/dow-chemical-endangered-species

[rushmc 23]

SkyDekker

I am sure the free market principle will ensure that people won't eat food with these pesticides on them....

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/04/dow-chemical-endangered-species

I did not read the link but, I do not agree that there should be no EPA.

That said, the EPA as it currently is, has morphed way beyond it's original intent, gone outside the laws that framed it and have not followed the processes that were required of them when they go to rule making.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[SkyDekker 1,465]

Yeah, you may want to read the link.

[rushmc 23]

SkyDekker

Yeah, you may want to read the link.

I know what it is about.
It is about pesticides and so called endangered species. Correct?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[SkyDekker 1,465]

And one scientist saying it is bad for humans and other scientists saying it is just fine for humans.

And some contributions to Trump.

[christelsabine 1]

rushmc

***I am sure the free market principle will ensure that people won't eat food with these pesticides on them....

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/04/dow-chemical-endangered-species

I did not read the link but, I do not agree that there should be no EPA.

That said, the EPA as it currently is, has morphed way beyond it's original intent, gone outside the laws that framed it and have not followed the processes that were required of them when they go to rule making.

Oh man, who's your ghostwriter, JR?

First sentence, free or errors, even the comma in correct place ...
Not talking about the rest of *your* post and its content ...

That cannot be rushmc - never.

dudeist skydiver # 3105

[airdvr 210]

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=1259

MALARIA VICTIMS: HOW ENVIRONMENTALIST BAN ON DDT CAUSED 50 MILLION DEATHS

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This is a story of triumph and tragedy. The triumph occurred in the middle part of the 20th century, when the larger part of mankind finally succeeded in overcoming the ravages of malaria, the deadly infectious disease that had afflicted the human race since the dawn of time (and which, by one estimate, had killed approximately half the people who had ever lived on earth). But within three decades, the triumph would give way to tragedy when leftist ideologues, professing concern for the integrity of the natural environment, collaborated to ban the use of the pesticide best known by the acronym DDT—the very substance that had made it possible to vanquish malaria from vast portions of the globe. By means of that ban, environmentalists effectively ensured that, over the course of the ensuing 30+ years, more than 50 million people would die needlessly of a disease that was entirely preventable.

The law of unintended consequences.

Please don't dent the planet.

Destinations by Roxanne

[brenthutch 444]

Now that the EPA will no longer be chasing its tail over CO2, it can get back to science based environmental protection.

[billvon 3,107]

>The law of unintended consequences.

DDT ban resulting in dead people - a tragedy.

Coal power plants resulting in dead people - right wing triumph.

[gowlerk 2,272]

airdvr

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=1259

MALARIA VICTIMS: HOW ENVIRONMENTALIST BAN ON DDT CAUSED 50 MILLION DEATHS

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This is a story of triumph and tragedy. The triumph occurred in the middle part of the 20th century, when the larger part of mankind finally succeeded in overcoming the ravages of malaria, the deadly infectious disease that had afflicted the human race since the dawn of time (and which, by one estimate, had killed approximately half the people who had ever lived on earth). But within three decades, the triumph would give way to tragedy when leftist ideologues, professing concern for the integrity of the natural environment, collaborated to ban the use of the pesticide best known by the acronym DDT—the very substance that had made it possible to vanquish malaria from vast portions of the globe. By means of that ban, environmentalists effectively ensured that, over the course of the ensuing 30+ years, more than 50 million people would die needlessly of a disease that was entirely preventable.

The law of unintended consequences.

DDT almost completely wiped out the bald eagle. America would be without it's symbol. And the story is bullshit anyway. Malaria can not be stopped with pesticides. You can't kill all the mosquitoes, even with DDT.


http://www.panna.org/resources/ddt-story

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Girls exposed to DDT before puberty are 5 times more likely to develop breast cancer in middle age, according to the President’s Cancer Panel.

Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

[rushmc 23]

SkyDekker

And one scientist saying it is bad for humans and other scientists saying it is just fine for humans.

And some contributions to Trump.

What??

No consensus?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[brenthutch 444]

DDT can't be that bad. When I was five we used to run through the smoke screen of the DDT fogger. It was more popular than the ice cream truck. And looked how I turned out.

[headoverheels 334]

brenthutch

And looked how I turned out.

Lice free?

[Phil1111 1,168]

brenthutch

DDT can't be that bad. When I was five we used to run through the smoke screen of the DDT fogger. It was more popular than the ice cream truck. And looked how I turned out.

I'm so very sorry, so very sorry. That explains so much.

From Fox news, so you know its a fact.
"Exposure to the synthetic pesticide DDT may increase both the risk and severity of Alzheimer’s disease in some individuals – especially those over the age of 60."
http://www.foxnews.com/health/2014/01/28/exposure-to-ddt-pesticide-may-increase-alzheimers-risk-study-finds.html

Mild cognitive impairment (MCI) causes a slight but noticeable and measurable decline in cognitive abilities, including memory and thinking skills. A person with MCI is at an increased risk of developing Alzheimer's or another dementia.
http://www.alz.org/dementia/mild-cognitive-impairment-mci.asp

[billvon 3,107]

>DDT can't be that bad. When I was five we used to run through the smoke screen
>of the DDT fogger.

True. And some guy smoked two packs a day and lived to be 90. Smoking can't be that bad.

[yoink 321]

brenthutch

Now that the EPA will no longer be chasing its tail over CO2, it can get back to science based environmental protection.

What data would it take to convince you that climate change as a result of man-made CO2 was real?

[rushmc 23]

yoink

***Now that the EPA will no longer be chasing its tail over CO2, it can get back to science based environmental protection.

What data would it take to convince you that climate change as a result of man-made CO2 was real?

Real unaltered data that is not screened through a political filter.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[Lawndarter 3]

rushmc

******Now that the EPA will no longer be chasing its tail over CO2, it can get back to science based environmental protection.

What data would it take to convince you that climate change as a result of man-made CO2 was real?

Real unaltered data that is not screened through a political filter.

So, basically all of science on the matter.

Man, Dunning-Kruger is awesome.

[brenthutch 444]

yoink

***Now that the EPA will no longer be chasing its tail over CO2, it can get back to science based environmental protection.

What data would it take to convince you that climate change as a result of man-made CO2 was real?

When the predictions of hurricanes, floods, drought, famine, wildfires tornadoes,etc etc occur at a greater rate then they have in the past.

"It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn't matter how smart you are. If it doesn't agree with experiment (observation), it's wrong." RF

[SkyDekker 1,465]

That is like saying that you will only believe that gun sales are up if the murder rate goes up as well.

[brenthutch 444]

SkyDekker

That is like saying that you will only believe that gun sales are up if the murder rate goes up as well.

Yeah....exactly like that.

[Phil1111 1,168]

brenthutch

******Now that the EPA will no longer be chasing its tail over CO2, it can get back to science based environmental protection.

What data would it take to convince you that climate change as a result of man-made CO2 was real?

For the 15th consecutive month, the global land and ocean temperature departure from average was the highest since global temperature records began in 1880. This marks the longest such streak in NOAA's 137 years of record keeping. The July 2016 combined average temperature over global land and ocean surfaces was 0.87°C (1.57°F) above the 20th century average, besting the previous July record set in 2015 by 0.06°C (0.11°F). July 2016 marks the 40th consecutive July with temperatures at least nominally above the 20th century average.
https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/201607

[brenthutch 444]

It was warmer one thousand years ago.

http://sciencenordic.com/vikings-grew-barley-greenland

[Phil1111 1,168]

brenthutch

It was warmer one thousand years ago.

http://sciencenordic.com/vikings-grew-barley-greenland

"Average Northern Hemisphere temperatures during the second half of the 20th century were very likely higher than during any other 50-year period in the last 500 years and likely the highest in at least the past 1,300 years."...

During the 1,900 years before the 20th century, it is likely that the next warmest period was from 950 to 1100, with peaks at different times in different regions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temperature_record_of_the_past_1000_years

Second warmest.

[billvon 3,107]

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Average Northern Hemisphere temperatures during the second half of the 20th century were very likely higher than during any other 50-year period in the last 500 years and likely the highest in at least the past 1,300 years."...

He will focus with laser-like precision on the word "likely."

Or just deny it altogether. Call it "political" or something.