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Scroll halfway down the page and look at Clinton's polling numbers.
Focus on the range January 21, 2009 – February 1, 2013: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/may/22/hillary-clinton/hillary-clintons-approval-rating-secretary-state-w/
Why that date range?
Because that was when she was Sec of State.

The GOP smear campaign began just as she left that position, because she was the most obvious candidate for 2016.

Clinton was completely qualified for the job, but the 4 year GOP smear campaign, combined with her total lack of charisma were handicaps.
Some POTUS's with charisma were:
- Reagan
- Bill Clinton
- Obama
- Trump (but only for those who get all their information from Fox News, Infowars, and Facebook)

I doubt Reagan and Bill Clinton would ever have survived the scandals in their tenures were it not for their charisma.

BTW I was not a Clinton supporter until Sanders bowed out. I viewed her as an uninspiring centrist. But after Sanders was gone, I would have voted for Charlie Sheen, just to stop Trump.
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Bob_Church

Not liking Trump is fine, join the gang, but what worries me is that people seem determined to convince themselves that HRC is a good choice for the Democratic candidate and we're going to end up with four more years of Trump. I don't like that idea at all.
People have somehow convinced themselves that HRC is the alternative to Trump in the Whitehouse instead of being the reason that Trump is in the Whitehouse.



Oh man, I have no illusion of that. She lost to a damn cartoon character, how shitty of a candidate do you have to be to lose to Yosemite Sam.
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Oh man, I have no illusion of that. She lost to a damn cartoon character, how shitty of a candidate do you have to be to lose to Yosemite Sam Foghorn Leghorn .


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JerryBaumchen

Hi Bob,

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People have somehow convinced themselves that HRC is the alternative to Trump in the Whitehouse instead of being the reason that Trump is in the Whitehouse.



Reality says that is not true. It was simply old, uneducated, white people who put Trump in office; along with the out-dated Electoral College.

Jerry Baumchen


I didn't know you voted for him Jerry...;)
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Republican farmers in small towns across the US are experiencing some #tregret today.

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Trump trade moves rattle Republican voters in rural America

NICK GERANIOS AP
April 4 2018

SPOKANE, Wash. (AP) — Gary Bailey is certain China is trying to rattle Donald Trump voters with its threat to slap tariffs on soybeans and other agriculture staples grown in rural America. The wheat farmer in eastern Washington, a state that exports $4 billion a year in farm products, is also certain of the result.

“It’s a strategy that’s working,” he said.

If farmers are worried, so are Republican politicians, who depended on small-town America to hand them control of Congress and know how quickly those voters could take it away. Just seven months before the 2018 midterm elections, Trump’s faceoff with China over trade has exposed an unexpected political vulnerability in what was supposed to be the Republican Party’s strongest region: rural America.

The clash with China poses a direct threat to the economies in both red and blue states, from California’s central valley to eastern Washington through Minnesota’s plains and across Missouri and Indiana and into Ohio.

They are regions in which the GOP’s quest to retain its House and Senate majorities this fall is tied directly to Republican voters’ views about their pocketbooks and Trump’s job performance. The signs of fear and frustration about both are easy to find.

In southwestern Minnesota, soybean farmer Bill Gordon says the volatility in the markets makes it harder for farmers like him to market their crop and lock in profitability. The state is the country’s fourth-largest exporting state, and the state’s top farm export market is China.

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The soybean industry, perhaps more than any other, illustrates the potential harm to Republican candidates in the fall.

Soy production is concentrated in the Midwest. Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, Nebraska, Indiana and Missouri account for over half of all soy produced in the United States. And more than 60 percent of U.S. soy exports have been sent to mainland China in recent years.

Trump won 89 percent of America’s counties that produce soy, according to an Associated Press analysis of Agriculture Department and election data. In those counties, on average, two out of three voters supported Trump in 2016.

Many Republican candidates who represent rural areas Trump won in 2016 are being forced to choose between his trade policies and community interests. . . .

Overall, an estimated 2.1 million jobs could be affected by the trade dispute nationally, with a majority coming from counties that Trump won, according to an analysis by Mark Muro, a senior fellow at the Metropolitan Policy Program at the Brookings Institution.
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You know.. whoever wrote that for her knows nothing of trade deficits/surplus. :S

EDIT: I'm sorry - I forgot it was Jimmy Kimmel. Its not supposed to be fact-based; it's entertainment.

Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

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A GOP congressman, feeling the #tregret, unloads on a journalist in a Safeway:

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If we're going to lose because of him, we might as well impeach the motherfucker.

I read you were writing about this, about wanting to say nice things when you can and criticize when you need to. He may be an idiot, but he's still the President and leader of my party and he is capable of doing some things right. But dammit he's taking us all down with him. We are well and truly fucked in November. Kevin [McCarthy] is already circling like a green fly circling shit trying to take Paul's [Ryan] job because nobody thinks he's sticking around for Nancy [Pelosi]. She's going to fuck up the cafeteria again too. Goddammit, at least I'll probably lose too and won't have to put up with that shit.

It's like Forrest Gump won the presidency, but an evil, really fucking stupid Forrest Gump. He can't help himself. He's just a fucking idiot who thinks he's winning when people are bitching about him. He really does see the world as ratings and attention. I hate Forrest Gump. I listen to your podcast and heard you hate it too. What an overrated piece of sh*t movie. . . .

Judiciary is stacked with a bunch of people who can win re-election so long as they don't piss off Trump voters in the primary. But if we get to summer and most of the primaries are over, they just might pull the trigger if the President fires Mueller. The shit will hit the fan if that happens and I'd vote to impeach him myself. Most of us would, I think. Hell, all the Democrats would and you only need a majority in the House. If we're going to lose because of him, we might as well impeach the motherfucker. Take him out with us and let Mike [Pence] take over. At least then we could sleep well at night. You know having Mike as President would really piss off all the right people, too. They think they hate Trump. Mike is competent . . .

I say a lot of shit on TV defending [Trump], even over this. But honestly, I wish the motherfucker would just go away. We're going to lose the House, lose the Senate, and lose a bunch of states because of him. All his supporters will blame us for what we have or have not done, but he hasn't led. He wakes up in the morning, shits all over Twitter, shits all over us, shits all over his staff, then hits golf balls. Fuck him. Of course, I can't say that in public or I'd get run out of town.
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It's like Forrest Gump won the presidency, but an evil, really fucking stupid Forrest Gump. He can't help himself. He's just a fucking idiot who thinks he's winning when people are bitching about him. He really does see the world as ratings and attention. I hate Forrest Gump. I listen to your podcast and heard you hate it too. What an overrated piece of sh*t movie. . . .


"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

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billvon

A GOP congressman, feeling the #tregret, unloads on a journalist in a Safeway:

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If we're going to lose because of him, we might as well impeach the motherfucker.

I read you were writing about this, about wanting to say nice things when you can and criticize when you need to. He may be an idiot, but he's still the President and leader of my party and he is capable of doing some things right. But dammit he's taking us all down with him. We are well and truly fucked in November. Kevin [McCarthy] is already circling like a green fly circling shit trying to take Paul's [Ryan] job because nobody thinks he's sticking around for Nancy [Pelosi]. She's going to fuck up the cafeteria again too. Goddammit, at least I'll probably lose too and won't have to put up with that shit.

It's like Forrest Gump won the presidency, but an evil, really fucking stupid Forrest Gump. He can't help himself. He's just a fucking idiot who thinks he's winning when people are bitching about him. He really does see the world as ratings and attention. I hate Forrest Gump. I listen to your podcast and heard you hate it too. What an overrated piece of sh*t movie. . . .

Judiciary is stacked with a bunch of people who can win re-election so long as they don't piss off Trump voters in the primary. But if we get to summer and most of the primaries are over, they just might pull the trigger if the President fires Mueller. The shit will hit the fan if that happens and I'd vote to impeach him myself. Most of us would, I think. Hell, all the Democrats would and you only need a majority in the House. If we're going to lose because of him, we might as well impeach the motherfucker. Take him out with us and let Mike [Pence] take over. At least then we could sleep well at night. You know having Mike as President would really piss off all the right people, too. They think they hate Trump. Mike is competent . . .

I say a lot of shit on TV defending [Trump], even over this. But honestly, I wish the motherfucker would just go away. We're going to lose the House, lose the Senate, and lose a bunch of states because of him. All his supporters will blame us for what we have or have not done, but he hasn't led. He wakes up in the morning, shits all over Twitter, shits all over us, shits all over his staff, then hits golf balls. Fuck him. Of course, I can't say that in public or I'd get run out of town.
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https://www.themaven.net/theresurgent/erick-erickson/a-congressman-s-profanity-laced-tirade-in-a-safeway-grocery-store-SeHI2l5bIECGQn4gmnzGaw/?full=1



People need to read the entire story not just your quoted section. Its accurate, insightful and unfortunate. The remarks about judiciary committee members is especially insightful.

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I confess I don't always understand tv or movie stars who admit to supporting Trump, but I find the instant roar to fire them really disturbing. Now it's someone on a show called, I think, 'Our Block.' She mentioned once in a tweet that she supported Trump so now people are demanding that she has to go.
What kind of mentality is this?

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Bob_Church

I confess I don't always understand tv or movie stars who admit to supporting Trump, but I find the instant roar to fire them really disturbing. Now it's someone on a show called, I think, 'Our Block.' She mentioned once in a tweet that she supported Trump so now people are demanding that she has to go.
What kind of mentality is this?


A foolish one. Part of a bigger problem - that we demand more morality from movie actors than we demand from our leaders.

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billvon

***I confess I don't always understand tv or movie stars who admit to supporting Trump, but I find the instant roar to fire them really disturbing. Now it's someone on a show called, I think, 'Our Block.' She mentioned once in a tweet that she supported Trump so now people are demanding that she has to go.
What kind of mentality is this?


A foolish one. Part of a bigger problem - that we demand more morality from movie actors than we demand from our leaders.

Trump considering pardon for boxing legend after call from Sylvester Stallone
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/384285-trump-considering-pardon-for-boxer-jack-johnson-after-call-from

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******I confess I don't always understand tv or movie stars who admit to supporting Trump, but I find the instant roar to fire them really disturbing. Now it's someone on a show called, I think, 'Our Block.' She mentioned once in a tweet that she supported Trump so now people are demanding that she has to go.
What kind of mentality is this?


A foolish one. Part of a bigger problem - that we demand more morality from movie actors than we demand from our leaders.

Trump considering pardon for boxing legend after call from Sylvester Stallone
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/384285-trump-considering-pardon-for-boxer-jack-johnson-after-call-from

Seems like a proper thing to do.
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*********I confess I don't always understand tv or movie stars who admit to supporting Trump, but I find the instant roar to fire them really disturbing. Now it's someone on a show called, I think, 'Our Block.' She mentioned once in a tweet that she supported Trump so now people are demanding that she has to go.
What kind of mentality is this?


A foolish one. Part of a bigger problem - that we demand more morality from movie actors than we demand from our leaders.

Trump considering pardon for boxing legend after call from Sylvester Stallone
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/384285-trump-considering-pardon-for-boxer-jack-johnson-after-call-from

Seems like a proper thing to do.

Indeed. Do it.
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Another voter feeling the #tregret. And in his latest "fuck you" to America, recall that Trump uses a special exemption so he can still get foreign labor for his properties.
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'Tricked by the devil.' They backed Trump. Now, his foreign labor cuts may ruin them.
BY TOM EBLEN
Lexington Herald-Leader

teblen@herald-leader.com

May 10, 2018 11:34 AM


Eddie Devine voted for President Donald Trump because he thought he would be good for American business. Now, he says, the Trump administration’s restrictions on seasonal foreign labor may put him out of business.

“I feel like I’ve been tricked by the devil,” said Devine, owner of Harrodsburg-based Devine Creations Landscaping. “I feel so stupid.”

Devine says it has been years since he could find enough dependable, drug-free American workers for his $12-an-hour jobs mowing and tending landscapes for cemeteries, shopping centers and apartment complexes across Central Kentucky.

So for years he has hired 20 seasonal workers, mostly from Guatemala, through the U.S. Labor Department’s H2-B “guest worker” program. Importing these workers for a few months cost him an additional $18,000 in fees and expenses beyond their wages, which must be the same as he pays American workers. But that’s the only way he could serve his customers.

Restrictions on guest-worker visas, which began during President Barack Obama’s second term as immigration became a hot issue for conservatives, have gotten worse under Trump.
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Trump wins visas to hire 70 foreign workers at Mar-a-Lago
BY JOHN BOWDEN The Hill
11/04/17

The Trump Organization has won the permission to hire 70 foreign workers to serve as maids, cooks and servers for the 2017-2018 tourist season, according to data from the U.S. Labor Department.

The Palm Beach Post reported Friday that Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort in Palm Beach, Fla., won the permission after first applying for the H-2B visas in July. The request was originally filed during Trump's "Made In America" week at the White House.


Palm Beach's unemployment rate currently sits at 3.6 percent. A local job placement agency told the Post that there are plenty of local workers who would be eager to fill the positions.

"We currently have 5,136 qualified candidates in Palm Beach County for various hospitality positions listed in the Employ Florida state jobs database," CareerSource spokesman Tom Veenstra said Friday.

The number of foreign workers hired by Mar-a-Lago is a slight increase from the 2016-2017 season, when the resort hired 64 foreign workers using H-2B visas. Trump defended the practice during a GOP primary debate in March of last year.

“It’s very, very hard to get people,” Trump said. “Other hotels do the exact same thing.”
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headoverheels


It is financial for Beck.

If you say so! But then you guys usually have an excuse for everything.
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if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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>It is financial for Beck.

Oh, Beck is the perfect Trump supporter - racist and bigoted. I am sure he has high hopes that Trump puts those lesser races in their place, as he has stated he wants to. (You know, all those rapist Mexicans and whatnot.) And it comes from Breitbart.

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billvon

>It is financial for Beck.

Oh, Beck is the perfect Trump supporter - racist and bigoted. I am sure he has high hopes that Trump puts those lesser races in their place, as he has stated he wants to. (You know, all those rapist Mexicans and whatnot.) And it comes from Breitbart.



Racist and bigoted huh? Well perfect post again from you Bill! I think it ranks right up there with the definition of trolling post that others are put on here many times. Lacks a lot of fact that it has all the intentions of pissing people off! Congratulations!

By the way, before you go there, I don't follow Glen back. But it fit pretty nice into this thread you started a while ago.
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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It is financial for Beck.

If you say so! But then you guys usually have an excuse for everything.

It was financial when, after losing money and laying of half of the Blaze staff, he recanted his earlier lies and conspiracy theories, and said he regretted the made up stories he broadcast about Obama and others. i.e., he was losing money in his "entertainment" business, and hoping for a new tack. All performance. That has not worked out, so he is back trying to regain his earlier demographic. Still all performance.

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headoverheels


It is financial for Beck.

If you say so! But then you guys usually have an excuse for everything.

It was financial when, after losing money and laying of half of the Blaze staff, he recanted his earlier lies and conspiracy theories, and said he regretted the made up stories he broadcast about Obama and others. i.e., he was losing money in his "entertainment" business, and hoping for a new tack. All performance. That has not worked out, so he is back trying to regain his earlier demographic. Still all performance.

I will have to take your word for it.
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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billvon

>It is financial for Beck.

Oh, Beck is the perfect Trump supporter - racist and bigoted. I am sure he has high hopes that Trump puts those lesser races in their place, as he has stated he wants to. (You know, all those rapist Mexicans and whatnot.) And it comes from Breitbart.



LOL I love how all the libtards screamed RACIST when Trump made the "animals" comment which was CLEARLY taken out of context by the libtard media.

Of course, he was referring to what is arguably the worst and most ruthless gang in recorded history: MS-13

If you think they're human, go invite a few over for dinner. Bonus if you have a wife and kids. Personally, I'm not taking a damn chance.

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