No African citizens granted visas for African trade summit in California

[ryoder 1,590]

Brilliant.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/mar/20/no-african-citizens-visas-california-annual-trade-summit

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[Phil1111 1,183]

ryoder

Brilliant.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/mar/20/no-african-citizens-visas-california-annual-trade-summit

All part of trump's "White America" no blacks, no browns, no non-Christians.

As soon as Gorsuch is in place, as soon as the cutbacks to foreign service and State department takes effect. The US embassies in Africa will just close doors. Except for one marine guard with a rubber stamp and ink pad.

Anyone who wants anything gets a free stamp "DENIED".

[gowlerk 2,277]

ryoder

Brilliant.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/mar/20/no-african-citizens-visas-california-annual-trade-summit

I wonder if any fair skinned South African types applied?

Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

[airdvr 210]

Simple solution. Have the Trade meeting somewhere else.

Please don't dent the planet.

Destinations by Roxanne

[DanG 1]

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Simple solution. Have the Trade meeting somewhere else.

That's got to be one of the dumbest comments you've ever made.

It's a meeting to encourage trade between Africa and the United States. Why should it be held outside of the United States?

- Dan G

[SkyDekker 1,465]

I think he is just saying that he sees no benefit in America doing any trade with those black people. They are pretty shifty after all.

[airdvr 210]

DanG

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Simple solution. Have the Trade meeting somewhere else.

That's got to be one of the dumbest comments you've ever made.

It's a meeting to encourage trade between Africa and the United States. Why should it be held outside of the United States?

Because Africa. If it doesn't work here have it there. No one said anything about blacks or whites. That's your own prejudices shining through...not mine.

Please don't dent the planet.

Destinations by Roxanne

[wmw999 2,589]

If we won't even let trade delegates in for a conference, that would make it pretty clear we don't take their trade seriously, or else that we are, in fact, institutionally prejudiced. Those aren't great choices; the world won't alway be exactly the same as it is now, in 1967

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[billvon 3,119]

>Simple solution. Have the Trade meeting somewhere else.

Hey, it worked for bathrooms and schools in the US in the 1950's.

[kallend 2,150]

Who needs minerals anyway?

The continent of Africa plays a major role in the reliance that the United States has with numerous strategic minerals. This continent ranks first or second worldwide with its concentrations of bauxite, chromium, platinum, diamond, gold, cobalt, and manganese to name a few (Coakley, 1999). There are approximately twenty-four nonfuel minerals and the United States is dependent on twenty-one of these. For many of these nonfuel minerals African nations are a major source.

Four important minerals that the United States imports vast quantities from African nations include chromium, cobalt, manganese, and platinum. Each of these will be discussed separately.

Chromium is one of the major elemental resources that the United States depends upon. Chromium is used to make stainless steel, tool steel, and used in high temperature applications. Since 1961, the U.S has been 100% reliable on other nations for chromium. The Republic of South Africa and Zimbabwe contain 98% of the world's reserves of this mineral (Mangone, 1984, p. 32).

Cobalt has not been mined in the U.S. since 1971, because the amount that the United States can produce cannot compete with the price of other countries. Cobalt is primarily used in gas turbines and jet engines. Zaire, Zambia, Morocco and Botswana contain approximately 52% of the free world's reserves of the mineral (Mangone, 1984, p. 38).

There are no significant ore deposits of manganese in the U.S. available for economic production. Manganese is a highly valuable strategic mineral to the U.S. since it is used to make steel. All of the manganese used by the United States is imported from other countries, and thirty-nine percent from South Africa. Over 75% of the free world reserves come from South Africa and 37% of this is consumed by the world market (Hagerman, 1984).

Platinum is only obtained in the U.S. in trace amounts and therefore, the nation depends 100% on other countries. South Africa contains 73% of the world reserves of platinum and virtually all of the United States need is met by this country (Hagerman, 1984).

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[DanG 1]

That's funny, I didn't say anything about blacks or whites either.

Who's letting their prejudices shine through?

- Dan G

[sonnyblu 0]

wmw999

If we won't even let trade delegates in for a conference, that would make it pretty clear we don't take their trade seriously, or else that we are, in fact, institutionally prejudiced. Those aren't great choices; the world won't alway be exactly the same as it is now, in 1967

Wendy P.

Just curious, did you speak out against the Obama admin for banning Kenyans from reuniting with their refugee/immigrant families here in the US simply because of mere fraud?

[airdvr 210]

DanG

That's funny, I didn't say anything about blacks or whites either.

Who's letting their prejudices shine through?

Sorry. Not aimed at you. Skydekker

Please don't dent the planet.

Destinations by Roxanne

[kallend 2,150]

sonnyblu

***If we won't even let trade delegates in for a conference, that would make it pretty clear we don't take their trade seriously, or else that we are, in fact, institutionally prejudiced. Those aren't great choices; the world won't alway be exactly the same as it is now, in 1967

Wendy P.

Just curious, did you speak out against the Obama admin for banning Kenyans from reuniting with their refugee/immigrant families here in the US simply because of mere fraud?

But Obama IS Kenyan. Trump told us.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[wmw999 2,589]

What is the parallel? What's the situation? If fraud is involved, that might be a reason; the fact that Africans are involved might be incidental. Not every incident involving a minority is the same, just as not every minority person or religion is the same.

But I googled Kenyans/Obama/fraud/rent and didn't come up with anything obvious; the first several were back to birther conspiracies.

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[sonnyblu 0]

wmw999

But I googled Kenyans/Obama/fraud/rent and didn't come up with anything obvious; the first several were back to birther conspiracies.

Wendy P.

Ya, there's not much out there about it, but that's the point. Nobody cared back then.

In 2008, the state department conducted DNA tests on a sample of Kenyan families applying for the family reunification program. They could only confirm that about 20% were actually related to each other. Subsequently, they suspended the program in Kenya, Ethiopia and Uganda. Part of the problem is that many children from that part of the world are adopted, and many people simply refused to be tested.

Could you imagine if Trump banned black kids from being reunited with their families in the U.S?

I think Obama allowed the suspension to last about 4 years or so and practically no one said a word, but now people are all up in arms about a couple denied visas for some conference and 120 day ban?


https://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/erbe/2008/12/11/immigration-fraud-riddles-suspended-family-reunification-program

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2008/12/10/ST2008121003553.html


http://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/obamas-homeland-security-selection-viewed-focused-immigration

https://2001-2009.state.gov/g/prm/refadm/rls/fs/2008/112760.htm

[JerryBaumchen 1,468]

Hi sonnyblu,

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did you speak out against the Obama admin for banning Kenyans

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In 2008, the state department

Uh, when did Obama take the oath of offfice?

Jerry Baumchen

[GeorgiaDon 380]

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...people are all up in arms about a couple denied visas for some conference...

Actually that was between 60 and 100 applications, and 100% of them were denied. In the past only a few applicants were denied each year.

I am not aware of any past attendees being involved in terrorist attacks while they were in the US. It's hard to make a case that a closed-door policy is necessary to "protect the homeland".

This does send a message that, going forward, it will very difficult for US companies and investors to do business with Africa, and likely other parts of the world as well. I for one do not believe that closing the door to foreign trade will be a good thing for the US economy or jobs.

Don

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Tolerance is the cost we must pay for our adventure in liberty. (Dworkin, 1996)
“Education is not filling a bucket, but lighting a fire.” (Yeats)

[sonnyblu 0]

JerryBaumchen

Hi sonnyblu,

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did you speak out against the Obama admin for banning Kenyans

***In 2008, the state department

Uh, when did Obama take the oath of offfice?

Jerry Baumchen

Ya, you got me.

Maybe if you shouted "xenophobia!" at Obama, he wouldn't have allowed poor black kids to be estranged from their families for 4+ years. Who knows, maybe they never were reunited. . . .and for what? Why? Just because other desperate people tried using the system to get out of a shitty situation? Why were they even left behind to begin with?