jakee 1,596 #51 March 3, 2017 nolhtairtI don't think he did specifically... What was done was blood doping... withdrawing blood and refrigerating it, and then transfusing it back in or something? I could be wrong. I quit watching the Tour De France after that debacle. No, what he did was everything. Blood transfusions involve taking blood at certain times in a training schedule when the body is rebounding from a hard training block and is producing lots of fresh red blood cells and then reinfusing it in the second and third weeks of a GT when the blood in the body is 'tired' and hematocrit is falling. However, that's just the icing on the cake. The real benefits were from drugs. EPO, HGH, testosterone, cortisone, THG, clenbuterol and a whole host of substances you've never even heard of. Blood boosters, recovery aids, fat burners, muscle builders, muscle burners... anything that worked and was moderately difficult to detect, he was on it.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #52 March 3, 2017 jakee***I don't think he did specifically... What was done was blood doping... withdrawing blood and refrigerating it, and then transfusing it back in or something? I could be wrong. I quit watching the Tour De France after that debacle. No, what he did was everything. Blood transfusions involve taking blood at certain times in a training schedule when the body is rebounding from a hard training block and is producing lots of fresh red blood cells and then reinfusing it in the second and third weeks of a GT when the blood in the body is 'tired' and hematocrit is falling. However, that's just the icing on the cake. The real benefits were from drugs. EPO, HGH, testosterone, cortisone, THG, clenbuterol and a whole host of substances you've never even heard of. Blood boosters, recovery aids, fat burners, muscle builders, muscle burners... anything that worked and was moderately difficult to detect, he was on it. I've read a number books on the topic including former LA teammate Tyler Hamilton's book "The Secret Race". According to Hamilton, EPO, testosterone, and autotransfusion (aka "blood doping") were the big three."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #53 March 3, 2017 billvon > He was asked a specific question. Agreed. And he lied. He said no. You are having a lot of trouble with this. Let's say someone asks you "did you take my rig?" And you did in fact take his rig. If you say "no" you are lying. Even if you really, really want him to not know, and even if you construe the question to mean "the rig I owned 20 years ago." Is honesty not a conservative thing nowadays? and the fake news story continues to explodeLies, feigned outrage and lying tweets.... you guys are all funny as hellYou are hardly taken seriously by anyone anymore so please, keep it uphttp://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/03/sessions-not-alone-russian-ambassador-also-met-with-numerous-democrats.html"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,183 #54 March 3, 2017 rushmc ***> He was asked a specific question. Agreed. And he lied. He said no. You are having a lot of trouble with this. Let's say someone asks you "did you take my rig?" And you did in fact take his rig. If you say "no" you are lying. Even if you really, really want him to not know, and even if you construe the question to mean "the rig I owned 20 years ago." Is honesty not a conservative thing nowadays? and the fake news story continues to explodeLies, feigned outrage and lying tweets.... you guys are all funny as hellYou are hardly taken seriously by anyone anymore so please, keep it uphttp://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/03/sessions-not-alone-russian-ambassador-also-met-with-numerous-democrats.html There is a concept of debate that you clearly don't understand. A point of argument should be matched by a RELEVANT counterpoint. The closer it is in the concepts of time, of circumstance, appropriate connection, logical proximity, germain to the subject so to speak. The more effective it is. The link that you posted previously to Mr. Schumer referenced a meeting in 2003. You do know its 2007? Right? What is the focus here. Is the fact for reasons unknown, trump wants to become best buddies with what is a terrorist kleptocratic thug that kills his own people. None of the democrats in either of the last link or this one has made those policy suggestions. USA-POLICY-RUSSIA-trump Before you fire off a response try to make cognitive connections. No one from the democratic party has suggested cosy relations with what is essentially a enemy state with a gangster leader. That doesn't mean you can't or shouldn't talk to such states. Talking to them and co-opting national policy and interests. With a gangster, with a enemy state, is different. US national interests is the focus of US national and international POLICY. good luck. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #55 March 3, 2017 rushmc ***> He was asked a specific question. Agreed. And he lied. He said no. You are having a lot of trouble with this. Let's say someone asks you "did you take my rig?" And you did in fact take his rig. If you say "no" you are lying. Even if you really, really want him to not know, and even if you construe the question to mean "the rig I owned 20 years ago." Is honesty not a conservative thing nowadays? and the fake news story continues to explodeLies, feigned outrage and lying tweets.... you guys are all funny as hellYou are hardly taken seriously by anyone anymore so please, keep it uphttp://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/03/sessions-not-alone-russian-ambassador-also-met-with-numerous-democrats.html Can you imagine, that if everything was flipped flopped and Clinton had won with aledged support from Russia, and Obama could not say a single negative thing about Russia and Putin? You folks would go crazy, if memebers of his cabinet hemmed and hawed about contact with the Russians,I seriously think there would be have been an armed revolt. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #56 March 3, 2017 No, you do not understand. There is NO story here. So there is nothing to debate. What is left is pointing out the lefts hypocrisy (not that they care. Per billvon's post it is easy to see Sessions did NOT lie. No one here can post a comment from a trial lawyer that will say Sessions lied This is a fake news story fed only by the heartbroken losers that are the Hillary voters. Boo hoo NOTE This type of bs is only the beginning. Sad but true. And I hope you keep it up. We have mid-terms coming sooner than you think. Carry on."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #57 March 3, 2017 jclalor ******> He was asked a specific question. Agreed. And he lied. He said no. You are having a lot of trouble with this. Let's say someone asks you "did you take my rig?" And you did in fact take his rig. If you say "no" you are lying. Even if you really, really want him to not know, and even if you construe the question to mean "the rig I owned 20 years ago." Is honesty not a conservative thing nowadays? and the fake news story continues to explodeLies, feigned outrage and lying tweets.... you guys are all funny as hellYou are hardly taken seriously by anyone anymore so please, keep it uphttp://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/03/sessions-not-alone-russian-ambassador-also-met-with-numerous-democrats.html Can you imagine, that if everything was flipped flopped and Clinton had won with aledged support from Russia, and Obama could not say a single negative thing about Russia and Putin? You folks would go crazy, if memebers of his cabinet hemmed and hawed about contact with the Russians,I seriously think there would be have been an armed revolt. Yes I can First off, the media would drop it in less than 1/2 day. Second, anyone who tried to keep the story alive would be call sexist to try and shut them up. Thirdly, there is no story here!!! In the end you are just projecting And you know it."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #58 March 3, 2017 Oh And there is absolutely NO EVIDENCE that Russia helped Trump win anything. They have been fucking with us for 40 years. the only thing different here is a CLINTON LOST!!!!"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #59 March 3, 2017 rushmc You are hardly taken seriously by anyone anymore so please, keep it up It's genuinely sad that you think you are able to comment on who is worth taking seriously. Quote http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/03/sessions-not-alone-russian-ambassador-also-met-with-numerous-democrats.html Again, so what? Absent any other context, simply meeting with the Russian Ambassador is not and has never been a problem.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #60 March 3, 2017 jakee***Marion Jones did, but Lance Armstrong did not. Lance lied his ass off. I know here's this weird idea floating around that he only ever said "I never tested positive" but it's not true. He categorically stated many times that he never took performance enhancing drugs. Right. Armstrong lied repeatedly and attacked a lot of people who told the truth about him. BUT... His testimony before congress, under oath, didn't include any actual "lies." Kinda like Clinton. He went on TV before the whole country and lied his ass off. But he was penalized for lying under oath, during the Jones harassment suit. Keep in mind that, at least here in the US, the only time lying is an actual crime is when testifying under oath (perjury) or talking to the cops (obstruction of justice)."There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #61 March 3, 2017 wolfriverjoe Right. Armstrong lied repeatedly and attacked a lot of people who told the truth about him. BUT... His testimony before congress, under oath, didn't include any actual "lies."... Keep in mind that, at least here in the US, the only time lying is an actual crime is when testifying under oath (perjury) or talking to the cops (obstruction of justice). Lance Armstrong lied under oath during the trial in Texas of a lawsuit against SCA promotions for payment of millions of dollars in bonuses in 2005, and in sworn statements he made in a million pound UK libel case against the Sunday Times and David Walsh in 2004. Completely coincidentally () his confession on Oprah came shortly after the statute of limitations ran out on criminal prosecution for perjury. In a civil case he was ordered to repay $10M to SCA promotions and several £100k's to the Sunday Times. ""Perjury must never be profitable," the panel wrote in its ruling. The panel said Armstrong and Tailwind Sports, the company that managed Armstrong's cycling team, "used perjury and other wrongful conduct to secure millions of dollars of benefits." The panel also found Armstrong and Tailwind "expressed no remorse to the panel for their wrongful conduct and continued to lie to the panel throughout the final hearing even while admitting to prior falsehoods and other wrongful conduct.""Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #62 March 3, 2017 jakee ***You are hardly taken seriously by anyone anymore so please, keep it up It's genuinely sad that you think you are able to comment on who is worth taking seriously. Quote http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/03/sessions-not-alone-russian-ambassador-also-met-with-numerous-democrats.html Again, so what? Absent any other context, simply meeting with the Russian Ambassador is not and has never been a problem. So you did not read his first post to me. Got it. And it is NOT a problem with Sessions. Glad you are starting to open your eyes."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #63 March 3, 2017 Every one of your posts in this thread is evidence that you are living in alt-universe. Say "Hi" to the Red Queen.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #64 March 3, 2017 >and the fake news story continues to explode So when you say "fake news" you mean reporting about facts, and when you post things you claim are real they are generally lies. Makes it easy to figure out your posts. Just assume that the opposite of what you say is true and you are pretty close to reality. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #65 March 3, 2017 Any guesses as to who said this? ============== I am concerned about a president under oath being alleged to have committed perjury. I hope he can rebut that and prove that did not happen. I hope he can show he did not commit obstruction of justice and that he can complete his term. But there are serious allegations that that occurred. And in America, the Supreme Court and the American people believe that no one is above the law. The president has gotten himself into this fix that is very serious. I intend to give him an absolutely fair trial. ============== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,183 #66 March 3, 2017 rushmc ***> He was asked a specific question. Agreed. And he lied. He said no. You are having a lot of trouble with this. Let's say someone asks you "did you take my rig?" And you did in fact take his rig. If you say "no" you are lying. Even if you really, really want him to not know, and even if you construe the question to mean "the rig I owned 20 years ago." Is honesty not a conservative thing nowadays? and the fake news story continues to explodeLies, feigned outrage and lying tweets.... you guys are all funny as hellYou are hardly taken seriously by anyone anymore so please, keep it uphttp://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/03/sessions-not-alone-russian-ambassador-also-met-with-numerous-democrats.html Its Friday, your lucky day, a most astonishing day. The POTUS has made a tweet directly to rushmc!! "“I hereby demand a second investigation, after Schumer, of Pelosi for her close ties to Russia, and lying about it,” Trump tweeted, with a link attached to a story about Pelosi’s 2010 group meeting with Russia’s U.S. ambassador. He tweeted the message three times, deleting the first two after misspelling the word "hereby" in each." You won't have to eat for the next whole week because your brain has been filled, with pablum. I'm glad that your GREAT friend has resumed his idiotic tweeting....er great communicating with people directly. Even better his sidekick has been freed from sitting in the corner for bad behavior. "“It turns out that a lot of women just have a problem with women in power," Conway, Trump's former campaign manager, said during a speech at the conservative conference CPAC. "It's constantly talking about what women look like and wear or making fun of their choices or presuming that they are not as powerful as the men around them. This presumptive negativity about women in power is very unfortunate because let’s try to access that and have a conversation about it instead of a confrontation.” http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/320791-conway-womens-march-protests-wrapped-in-negativity Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #67 March 3, 2017 Phil1111 ******> He was asked a specific question. Agreed. And he lied. He said no. You are having a lot of trouble with this. Let's say someone asks you "did you take my rig?" And you did in fact take his rig. If you say "no" you are lying. Even if you really, really want him to not know, and even if you construe the question to mean "the rig I owned 20 years ago." Is honesty not a conservative thing nowadays? and the fake news story continues to explodeLies, feigned outrage and lying tweets.... you guys are all funny as hellYou are hardly taken seriously by anyone anymore so please, keep it uphttp://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/03/sessions-not-alone-russian-ambassador-also-met-with-numerous-democrats.html Its Friday, your lucky day, a most astonishing day. The POTUS has made a tweet directly to rushmc!! "“I hereby demand a second investigation, after Schumer, of Pelosi for her close ties to Russia, and lying about it,” Trump tweeted, with a link attached to a story about Pelosi’s 2010 group meeting with Russia’s U.S. ambassador. He tweeted the message three times, deleting the first two after misspelling the word "hereby" in each." You won't have to eat for the next whole week because your brain has been filled, with pablum. I'm glad that your GREAT friend has resumed his idiotic tweeting....er great communicating with people directly. Even better his sidekick has been freed from sitting in the corner for bad behavior. "“It turns out that a lot of women just have a problem with women in power," Conway, Trump's former campaign manager, said during a speech at the conservative conference CPAC. "It's constantly talking about what women look like and wear or making fun of their choices or presuming that they are not as powerful as the men around them. This presumptive negativity about women in power is very unfortunate because let’s try to access that and have a conversation about it instead of a confrontation.” http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/320791-conway-womens-march-protests-wrapped-in-negativity As I have posted bfore, you all have lost itThere is no point in going to any detail with most of you who post here. It is so f****** Looney it is hard to believe that you can even type. So I'm going to keep enjoying the show that you guys are providing and watch Trump keep winning."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #68 March 3, 2017 >and watch Trump keep winning. After his speech that the GOP is calling the best ever, Trump's approval rating is all the way up to . . . . 43%! (51% disapprove.) The winningest popular vote loser ever! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #69 March 3, 2017 rushmcAnd it is NOT a problem with Sessions. Why isn't it a problem with Sessions?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #70 March 3, 2017 billvon >and watch Trump keep winning. After his speech that the GOP is calling the best ever, Trump's approval rating is all the way up to . . . . 43%! (51% disapprove.) The winningest popular vote loser ever! And yet he keeps winning. And he will"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #71 March 3, 2017 rushmc And yet he keeps winning. And he will What? Did I fall asleep and miss another election?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #72 March 3, 2017 And heeere we go! From "no" to "I can not recall." From Politico: =================== Sessions said he could not rule out the possibility that he discussed election-related matters during his September meeting with the Russian diplomat, Sergey Kislyak. "I don't recall, but most of these ambassadors are pretty gossipy, and....this was in the campaign season, but I don't recall any specific political discussions," the attorney general said. Sessions' initial denial could be legally problematic if it is contradicted by staffers at the meeting or by other evidence, such as intercepts of Russian reports on what was said, attorneys said. ================== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #73 March 3, 2017 Have a nice weekend.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #74 March 3, 2017 http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/03/03/schumer-pulled-visa-strings-for-indian-athlete-now-accused-child-sex-abuse.html"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #75 March 3, 2017 rushmchttp://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/03/03/schumer-pulled-visa-strings-for-indian-athlete-now-accused-child-sex-abuse.html An irrelevant diversion. I guess you now admit that Sessions is a LIAR so you try to change the topic.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites