Trump predicts the future...

[gowlerk 2,275]

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Yeah I was joking but three different users on a single pc/account is a little novel. I was having fun at your and your son's?? expense. Part of that is your deep support for President Putin. Clearly I'm not a fan of him. But I like Russian people generally.

And while we're at it, how about that skydive? Let's meet up for a jump sometime!

Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

[Royreader8812 0]

So now anyone that is not falling for the Russia hype due to lack of evidence. Is a Russian.

There is no hope for some people.

[kallend 2,148]

You're the second person today who I've seen excuse Trump's LIES by saying we shouldn't believe what he actually says, we should believe what he means.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

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Royreader8812

So now anyone that is not falling for the Russia hype due to lack of evidence. Is a Russian.

There is no hope for some people.

That's exactly what a Russian spy would say.

"I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

[kallend 2,148]

DJL

***So now anyone that is not falling for the Russia hype due to lack of evidence. Is a Russian.

There is no hope for some people.

That's exactly what a Russian spy would say.

Perhaps Royreader is XXX

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[Royreader8812 0]

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You're the second person today who I've seen excuse Trump's LIES by saying we shouldn't believe what he actually says, we should believe what he means

Well I actually listen to what he has to say,

When he says half a sentence, and carries on with another half off a sentence, I typically understand whether is saying in both statements by using the context in which it is said.

Deciding to believe your own interpretation of what someone says, while ignoring what they actually mean, speaks volumes about ones integrity.

Being a whiney little fuckwit changes nothing.

Also having intelligence and having reason or integrity are not the same thing. One can be a respected professor but still an asshole, for example.

There is plenty of examples of this out there. Like the people that create biological weapons.

[gowlerk 2,275]

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Being a whiney little fuckwit changes nothing.

Cute. Your team is getting more adorable all the time.

Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

[wmw999 2,588]

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i actually listen to what he has to say

How can you tell? Or do you fill in what you want to hear in the spaces between the incomplete ideas and sentences? I've heard it said that conservatives know to take Trump seriously, but not literally.

What are words for if not to convey what you actually mean, rather than demanding that the listeners figure it out? It makes it easier to later say "I was misunderstood," but that's not particularly honest.

And as far as evil professors are concerned , are they worse or better than soldiers who shoot down a passenger jet, brag about it on FB, and then take down the post when it becomes clear it was a passenger jet?

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[Phil1111 1,182]

gowlerk

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Being a whiney little fuckwit changes nothing.

Cute. Your team is getting more adorable all the time.

Meeting for a jump sounds fun.

Back to the tread. "whiney little fuckwit " and alternatively "You come across as more intelligent than that. ". Bullying and bluster combined with false praise... sounds like trump! Then you combine it with three different posters on the same account, this is challenging.

Certainly there is the technical ability of Russian FSB to have intelligent social media bots to spread misinformation. Four years ago I had to repeat a number three or four times and b.s. about for twenty minutes in order to claim rewards an a credit card.

Now you can't tell if you are talking to a person or a computer when you phone a business.So certainly written language would be a easy possibility.For a Roy-bot so to speak. But what is really puzzling for me is the whole Soros idea. How it relates to the alt-right, Putin, Russia and of course the main actor, trump.

Its clear why Putin has it in for Soros. President Putin likes the general idea of appealing to Russian speaking minorities in the republics that surround Russian. Not necessarily to recreate a reincarnate Soviet empire, or even a Putin-Russian empire. Although that could be a long term goal. But to play to his base and generate some more fertile ground for cronie self enrichment.

Posters here have commented "IMO, Satan's power is manifest in G. Soros. ", and Roy himself has stated "Soros is a fucking psychopath...

And he has many people in a trance, including many of you here.

His philanthropy is a cover for his scam. He destroys countries for fun and money"

Subsequent to the FSB killing Boris Abramovich Berezovsky in England on Putin's orders. Soros has become the public enemy of Putin and Russia. But the point that's troubling is why has this become the enemy of the alt-right in the US?

Has the FSB been so successful that its enemies are adopted by the alt-right. That being Breitbart and all the other conspiracy sites. Or is Soros a enemy to unite Fascists, the alt-right and all those that oppose Putin?

I suggest this because there are elections forthcoming in France. A female version of trump is in the lead there.

"Marine Le Pen is France's most controversial politician.

Over the past five years, she has taken far-right party Front National (FN) — which was founded by her father — from a marginalised voice to one of the most important forces in French politics.

Le Pen officially launched her election campaign on February 5 and the latest polls show she is set to win the first round of the presidential election in April....

A notable outburst came in 2010, when she linked public Muslim prayers in the streets with World War II and said it was "an occupation of sections of the territory."

French NGOs lodged complaints against her following the comments but she was acquitted of "inciting hatred," because her statement did not "target all of the Muslim community" and was protected by freedom of expression.

During that incident and throughout her interviews in general, Marine Le Pen and her entourage — much like US President Donald Trump — constantly blame the media for misrepresenting her party, herself and her family. She also accuses the government of trying to discredit her...

Le Pen's slogan for her 2017 presidential campaign translates to "in the name of the people," and she presents herself as exactly that, the saviour of the French public, French culture, French language.

She launched her campaign and presented 144 promises she would turn into reality if elected president. The most important ones include taking France out of the eurozone and a return to the French franc. She also promises a referendum on France's membership of the European Union.

Other main measures include banishing from France any immigrant convicted of a crime, boosting the police force and creating 40,000 additional prison places. She also wants all religious signs to be banished from the public space.

Although the Front National has had trouble raising money for the campaign (Le Pen had to borrow money from her estranged father) and she has also been ordered to pay back over £250,000 to the EU parliament over fake EU parliamentary assistant jobs — none of this seems to have an influence on the determination of her supporters...

In the past our adversaries have always been able to say that there is 'no alternative' but now we have had Brexit, and then Trump.

"A whole psychological framework is breaking down. I think 2017 is going to be the year of the grand return of the nation-state, the control of borders and currencies."

After years of cleaning up her party's name and trying desperately to distance it from her father's racist and antisemitic outbursts, it seems that Le Pen believes she has now found the perfect sweet spot between being mainstream enough to get votes, but also being seen as enough of an outsider to bring about change."
http://www.businessinsider.com/who-is-marine-le-pen-2017-1/#-11

In Germany Angela Merkel's party has seen a similar trump right party.
"Five days after Donald Trump became the next president of the United States, the South Munich chapter of Germany’s far-right party, Alternative for Deutschland, held its first meeting since the U.S. election. In a traditional Bavarian tavern on a quiet residential street, 50-some party members and supporters drank beer and celebrated the victory that they felt was, in many ways, their own.

The theme of the meeting was supposed to be the local elections in May, when the AfD is expected to pick up seats in several of Germany’s state parliaments. (The party currently holds seats in 10 of Germany’s 16 state parliaments, up from five one year ago.) But instead of local elections, talk that night centered almost exclusively on Donald Trump...

The AfD’s platform is a collection of right-wing themes: EU reform, closed borders and a return to the Germany of yesteryear, before what many of its members and supporters refer to as the “Islamization” of Europe. The party seeks to ban large minarets and the call to prayer, and require Muslim preachers to undergo government vetting. “Islam does not belong in Germany,” the platform states...

“What they are managing right now is to make a very radical brand of right wing politics not exactly fashionable, but acceptable in Germany, and that’s new,” says Kai Arzheimer, a professor of politics at the University of Mainz. “They should be taken very seriously, insofar as I think they will do pretty well in the upcoming election. Sixteen percent on the national level is a very strong showing by German standards.”...

In fact, much of the so-called Islamization of German society that is feared by AfD supporters is largely overstated, says Kai Arzheimer, the professor of politics at the University of Mainz. Muslims account for about 5 percent of the German population, he noted, adding that many of them are not religiously observant.

But for many German voters, statistics matter less than what they see in their cities and streets; and they, like many Trump supporters, blame immigrants for many of the changes they don’t like.'
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/12/germanys-far-right-rises-again-214543

The common theme is democracy is dead. Tolerance is dead. Muslims should be sent home, banned, or at a minimum forced to convert to Christianity. For trump, bannon, Putin, Marine Le Pen and German AfD supporters.

Peace, tolerance, democracy and all the other causes that Mr. Soros donates to. Certainly would make him the "Devil incarnate" as posters here and bannon, would like to believe.

[Royreader8812 0]

An incomplete sentence does not necessarily reflect an incompetent idea.

You have a brain, you can decide to use it, or not.

Obviously not.

[billvon 3,116]

>Being a whiney little fuckwit

Your one warning. Cut it out.

[gowlerk 2,275]

Royreader8812

An incomplete sentence does not necessarily reflect an incompetent idea.

You have a brain, you can decide to use it, or not.

Obviously not.

POTUS is supposed to be a leader. Do you understand the basic tenets of leadership? Clarity is high among them.

Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

[billvon 3,116]

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How can you tell? Or do you fill in what you want to hear in the spaces between the incomplete ideas and sentences?

In many ways Trump is the ultimate Rorschach test. Consider this sentence:

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Look, having nuclear. . . .my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT, good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart . . .you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I'm one of the smartest people anywhere in the world - it’s true! - but when you're a conservative Republican they try . . . oh, do they do a number. . . that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune . . . you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged . . . but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me. . . it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are - nuclear is powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what's going to happen and he was right—who would have thought? - but when you look at what's going on with the four prisoners - now it used to be three, now it’s four - but when it was three and even now, I would have said it's all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don't, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years - but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us.
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What might one take from that? Anyone that writes or speaks English professionally might think he's incompetent. A Trump supporter might think he's well-versed in nuclear physics, or that he's figthing back against the liberal elites, or that he's highlighting the injustice of the Muslim world, or that he grew up disadvantaged. And who's to say either is accurate or inaccurate? It's impossible to tell from Trump's actual words.

[Royreader8812 0]

Leadership is the main thing.

Being string and going through with your promises.

Claritity is not necessarily needed. The most important decisions are classified for example.

Announcing your strategies is not very smart.

[gowlerk 2,275]

Royreader8812

Leadership is the main thing.

Being string and going through with your promises.

Claritity is not necessarily needed. The most important decisions are classified for example.

Announcing your strategies is not very smart.

Trump is not strong, he is weak. He can't even keep his wife by his side. And he is easily hurt, because he is a weakling.

Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

[wmw999 2,588]

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Claritity is not necessarily needed

Oh, we have an example of this

Clarity IS needed. Because if it's not ensured, then people have no idea what's really meant. And if you're trying to evaluate someone for yourself, then it's important to know what they stand for.

I guess if you just trust whatever Breitbart/Putin/Limbaugh/whoever for your information, then it's not necessarily. But that's kind of the definition of sheeple, isn't it?

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[Royreader8812 0]

His uncle was a professor and he respevts what he said very much.

Nuclear conflict is a very serious risk and one he would like to avoid at all costs.

If he ran as a liberal Democrat, he would be respected more than he is as a conservative Republican.

He understands the demographic, anything a Republican doezis reviled by the left, regardless of what it is.

He went to university, got rich and here he is.

He thinks the deal with the Iranians was bad, that they outsmarted the Obama administration, and that he is smarter than both the obama administration and the Iranians and will make a better deal for the US people.

It is not exactly difficult to decipher this.

But if you look at everything he says with a biased and bigoted point of view, you will interpret it differently than the message he is actually saying and end up believing something different to the reality.

Obama may well have been eloquent, but he flat out lied, did the opposite of what he said and the left championed him because he bumped fists with the cleaner.

The fact that Trump has the elite and the media in such a frenzy, tells me he is more real than his predecessors and a threat to the status quo.

This is a nice feeling.

What he actually does will be telling, his new anti war security advisor is a good indication of things to come and his attitude to foreign policy.

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Royreader8812

Leadership is the main thing.

Being string and going through with your promises.

Claritity is not necessarily needed. The most important decisions are classified for example.

Announcing your strategies is not very smart.

You're referring to the way he avoided answering questions about our stance on issues by saying that it's a secret and we can't tell our enemies our secrets. Do you understand that he's not the first President to stand there and answer questions? They're not looking for the date and location we're going to strike. All he had to say is that we're going to continue to support our allies and national interest in the fight against ISIS. That the Russian ship near our shores was an attempt at provocation and testing boundaries that both countries have indulged in for decades. Instead he launched into a hyperbolic diatribe asking if everyone would be happy if he blew up the ship or announced that we would be "attacking Isis in three weeks...we will be attacking in two weeks".

Our Commander in Chief needs to know how to handle a god damned question. You say that people are falling for bullshit but his answers...in that exact instance you're descibing...are the biggest pile of bullshit on the table.

"I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

[billvon 3,116]

>Being string and going through with your promises.

Like releasing his taxes after the election. Or moving those 2 million "criminal aliens" out of the country within his first hour in office. Or renegotiating NAFTA starting on his first day.

All in all, 34 broken promises so far.

>Claritity is not necessarily needed.

Well, he's got that down, then.

[billvon 3,116]

Your post is a perfect example of that Rorschach test.

>Obama may well have been eloquent, but he flat out lied, did the opposite of
>what he said and the left championed him because he bumped fists with the
>cleaner.

Who is the "cleaner?"

Politifact scores:

Trump - 69% of his statements were mostly false, false or pants on fire
Obama - 24% of his statements were mostly false, false or pants on fire

How does it feel to have a president who is more than twice as dishonest as Obama?

[jakee 1,595]

Royreader8812

Leadership is the main thing.

Being string and going through with your promises.

Then why do you keep defending Trump?

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[jakee 1,595]

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Obama may well have been eloquent, but he flat out lied, did the opposite of what he said and the left championed him because he bumped fists with the cleaner.

Trump is not eloquent, and he flat out lied, did the opposite of what he said and the right championed him because he is a rich old white man.

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The fact that Trump has the elite and the media in such a frenzy, tells me he is more real than his predecessors and a threat to the status quo.

Trump is the elite, and the media is not your enemy.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[Royreader8812 0]

Hey Wendy,

One day you might consider that all sources have merit of some sort.

For instance when RT were showing footage of white phosphorus being used on civilians in East Ukraine, and you see footage and have people talking as it is happening... then this is not reported in any of the Western media. This is a good indication that RT is in fact a good source for this particular topic. Because there are not any other English outlets reporting on it.

You can then take that information and try to understand the situation more clearly by investigating yourself using google translate and looking at video evidence.

Using white phosphorus is no joke.

If you dismiss everything anyone has to say because of who they are...

You become a victim of your own naivity.

I watch all sorts of presentations, but mostly I listen to the victims on either side of the story.

The while MH 17 thing you are hung up on, is clearly a means of ligitimising Rebels that are used for regime change, and deligitimising rebels protecting their own homes.

If it were not for MH 17, what real reason would there be to oppose the notion that the people of the Donbass deserve to protect their homes from the Kiev forces.

Love or Hate Putin/Russia, it is easy to see that they are not stupid enough to shoot down a plane of civilians when NATO are already flexing their muscles on their boarder, and the Rebels if east Ukraine gained nothing from doing so. This cannot be said for Kiev.

[gowlerk 2,275]

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The fact that Trump has the elite and the media in such a frenzy, tells me he is more real than his predecessors and a threat to the status quo.

Trump is a threat to the status quo. Specifically American strength and Russian weakness. He threatens to change both.

Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

[gowlerk 2,275]

Royreader8812

Hey Wendy,

One day you might consider that all sources have merit of some sort.

For instance when RT were showing footage of white phosphorus being used on civilians in East Ukraine, and you see footage and have people talking as it is happening... then this is not reported in any of the Western media. This is a good indication that RT is in fact a good source for this particular topic. Because there are not any other English outlets reporting on it.

You can then take that information and try to understand the situation more clearly by investigating yourself using google translate and looking at video evidence.

Using white phosphorus is no joke.

If you dismiss everything anyone has to say because of who they are...

You become a victim of your own naivity.

I watch all sorts of presentations, but mostly I listen to the victims on either side of the story.

The while MH 17 thing you are hung up on, is clearly a means of ligitimising Rebels that are used for regime change, and deligitimising rebels protecting their own homes.

If it were not for MH 17, what real reason would there be to oppose the notion that the people of the Donbass deserve to protect their homes from the Kiev forces.

Love or Hate Putin/Russia, it is easy to see that they are not stupid enough to shoot down a plane of civilians when NATO are already flexing their muscles on their boarder, and the Rebels if east Ukraine gained nothing from doing so. This cannot be said for Kiev.

Wow. In the internet deception game our forum seems to have slipped down a couple levels of expertise today. I've never seen Royreader communicate so poorly before.

Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.