RonD1120 62 #1 February 17, 2017 It is sad but true. Soros and BHO are not finished by a long shot. President Trump addressed this issue several times yesterday in his press conference. The real issue is leaking classified information by BHO loyalists still in office. I believe they will be identified, charged and convicted. Be sure and read to the bottom of the article and discover the organizations Soros funds. IMO, all of them are enemies of America. QuotePolitical Appointees in Intelligence Agencies Repeatedly Broke The Law To Take Out General Flynn By Capt Joseph R. John, February 15, 2017: Op Ed # 336 Nine appointees in the Obama administration, from one or more intelligence agencies, possibly NSA, CIA, or DNI, were involved in leaking sensitive information to the press, that resulted in General Mike Flynn’s resignation as the National Security Advisor. The 9 individuals were political activists opposed to President Trump; they released transcripts of recorded phone conversations to the press of General Flynn conversations with the Russian Ambassador to the US (by law, the name of any US citizen in such a classified transcript must be redacted, hiding their identity from the press). http://combatveteransforcongress.org/story/political-appointees-intelligence-agencies-repeatedly-broke-law-take-out-general-flynnLook for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tonyhays 86 #2 February 17, 2017 QuoteThe real issue is leaking classified information by BHO loyalists still in office. I believe they will be identified, charged and convicted. Boo-fucking hoo. That's what happens when you piss all over the intelligence agencies. As Chuck Schumer predicted..."You take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you" Expect more. Perhaps if his aides/appointees stop doing illegal stuff the leaks will stop.“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #3 February 17, 2017 Actually the big problem with leaks is verifying the information. I have zero problems with leaks but the media just throws it out there before it's been vetted correctly. From there the fake news folks twist it to fit their agenda.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #4 February 17, 2017 I fell sorry for you that you believe such utter bullshit as what was in that "article". Really? Nine individuals? Who are they? How do you know there are nine of them if you don't even know where they work? The last part of the "article" is just a random string of buzzwords from the fringe right. Was the author in a contest to see how many times he could work in the names Alinsky and Soros? Sad. Low energy losers. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,172 #5 February 17, 2017 If readers are in a hurry they can skip to the bold type-faced paragraph at the bottom. It certainly seems as if BO, HRC, MR. Soros, etc. are still the boogeyman for the Breitbart trump crowd. This PAC: "Capt. Joseph R. John, USN (Ret), the Chairman of Combat Veterans for Congress PAC, writes that members of the Muslim Brotherhood and its Islamist front groups have become “a very dangerous ‘Fifth Column’ in the United States, appointed by Obama to very high and sensitive positions in the US Government agencies.” http://usherald.com/video-radical-islamist-american-government-panic-trump-announced-cleaning-hous/ On their PAC website the Chairman of Combat Veterans for Congress PAC, writes "Muslim Brotherhood “Massive” Government Infiltration While Stigmatizing Government Employees With "Islamophobia" "For nearly 8 years Obama has been filling the Washington bureaucracy including DHS, the CIA, DOD, the National Security Council, the White House, the State Department, every US Intelligence Agency, and the US Armed Forces with thousands of members of the CAIR, MPAC, the Muslim Brotherhood, and other Muslim Brotherhood front groups. ... Another example of the Muslim Brotherhood controlling security decisions at the highest levels of the Obama administration, was how Obama, Hillary, and Susan Rice... They have a history of obstructing Federal Law Enforcement Agencies from indoctrinating new graduates of the Federal Law Enforcement and the FBI Academies about the dangers that ties members of the Muslim Brotherhood, CAIR, and MPAC have to “Radical Islamic Terrorism.” They also try to impede investigations, by calling attention to Obama administration new policies, intimidating witnesses, using “Muslim Victimization” as a defense, and by using other attempts to halt investigations into activities of accused Jihadists. ' http://www.combatveteransforcongress.org/story/muslim-brotherhood-%E2%80%9Cmassive%E2%80%9D-government-infiltration-while-stigmatizing-government-employee-is I can summarize the absolute drivel of the two websites and the statements of this PAC by saying they represent that the NSA, the CIA, the FBI, have all been infiltrated by the "Muslim Brotherhood". Which is the group banned by Egypt subsequent to the overthrow of their election in Egypt by the subsequent military government(s). But that they have morphed into a global "fifth column" which has seized control of these agencies of the US government aforementioned. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #6 February 17, 2017 Another Friday and another trip down to Florida for El Duche on AF1. It's funny how the fiscally conservatives never mind spending big when it's not their money. So what do you think about Trump being on track to spend more on AF1 for personal use in one year then Obama did in his 8? Or the million dollars being spent onQuote Melania for staying at TT? Could you imagine if Michell stayed in Chicago and that it was a million a nigh[ and Obama went on home on AF1? Not a peep from the GOP, dead silence. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites headoverheels 334 #7 February 17, 2017 I think that the total security cost over four years for Trump and family will be way, way over $1B for all entities. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Phil1111 1,172 #8 February 17, 2017 IMO the concept of using either a 747 or trumps 757 is such a stupefying environmental waste. When a Gulfstream or a Cessna jet would suffice. I wonder if trump believes this train of thought that the national security agencies are controlled or been systematically infiltrated by "Islamist's"? I can't be bothered to explore this concept of thinking/thought. Does anybody have quotes from trump to such effect? Or from the mouths of bannon and/or miller? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jakee 1,594 #9 February 17, 2017 RonD1120IMO, all of them are enemies of America. The American Federation of Teachers? Makes sense I guess. If they succeeded in their evil plot to improve educational standards you wouldn't be able to find anyone ignorant enough to believe your nonsense anymore.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites airdvr 210 #10 February 17, 2017 QuoteSo what do you think about Trump being on track to spend more on AF1 for personal use in one year then Obama did in his 8? Cite?Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites quade 4 #11 February 17, 2017 Phil1111IMO the concept of using either a 747 or trumps 757 is such a stupefying environmental waste. When a Gulfstream or a Cessna jet would suffice. For a normal billionaire you're 100% correct. For the President, regardless of who sits in the Oval, nope. Pretty much has to be what it is. There's far more to it than just getting from point A to point B. I in NO WAY support Trump, but the plane comes with the office for a good reason.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ryoder 1,590 #12 February 17, 2017 airdvrActually the big problem with leaks is verifying the information. I have zero problems with leaks but the media just throws it out there before it's been vetted correctly. From there the fake news folks twist it to fit their agenda. Or maybe that is the WH strategy: http://www.businessinsider.com/white-house-handling-of-controversial-plans-2017-2"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jakee 1,594 #13 February 17, 2017 Which is why every other 1st world country or world power has the same thing. Oh wait...Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,107 #14 February 17, 2017 >There is going to be conflict. Yes, there is. It is truly remarkable that the National Security Advisor was recently fired for talking to Russia in violation of US law, and may in fact have committed a felony by lying to FBI agents - and the biggest problem that the right wing has is "well, people found out about it, and that's not acceptable!" Yes, there is going to be conflict - between the rule of law and a president who believes that he is above it. Which side will you be on? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ryoder 1,590 #15 February 17, 2017 Phil1111IMO the concept of using either a 747 or trumps 757 is such a stupefying environmental waste. When a Gulfstream or a Cessna jet would suffice. The plane has a lot of technology in its onboard medical facility. The medical room has an extensive pharmacy, loads of emergency room equipment and even a fold-out operating table. The plane also has a staff doctor, who travels with the president wherever he goes. On every mission, the plane is prepared for a wide range of potential emergencies. Unlike a normal 747, the plane has its own retractable stairways, for the rear entrance and the front entrance. These stairways open onto the lower deck, and crew members and staff climb internal staircases to get to the upper decks. The plane also has its own baggage-loader. With these additions, the plane never has to depend on an airport’s facilities, which could be a security risk. The most remarkable feature on the plane is it’s extensive electronics. It has 85 onboard telephones, a collection of two-way radios, fax machines and computer connections. It also has 19 televisions and assorted office equipment. The phone system is set up for normal air to ground connections and secure lines. The president and his staff can reach just about anybody in the world while cruising tens of thousands of feet in the air. The onboard electronics include about 238 miles of wiring (twice the amount you’d find in a normal 747). Heavy shielding is tough enough to protect the wiring and crucial electronics from the electromagnetic pulse associated with a nuclear blast. Another special addition is the in-flight refueling connection. As with the B-2 and other combat craft, in-flight refueling gives Air Force One the ability to stay up in the air indefinitely, which could be crucial in an emergency situation. Some of the most interesting parts of the plane — it’s advanced avionics and defenses — are classified. But the Air Force asserts the two planes are definitely military aircraft, designed to withstand an air attack. Among other things, the plane is outfitted with electronic counter measures (ECM) to jam enemy radar. The plane can also eject flares to throw heat-seeking missiles off course. Source: https://www.aviationcv.com/aviation-blog/2016/air-force-one"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Phil1111 1,172 #16 February 18, 2017 ryoder***Actually the big problem with leaks is verifying the information. I have zero problems with leaks but the media just throws it out there before it's been vetted correctly. From there the fake news folks twist it to fit their agenda. Or maybe that is the WH strategy: http://www.businessinsider.com/white-house-handling-of-controversial-plans-2017-2 How about a conflict when bannon figures out a Pense supporter programmed the copier to auto-fax his print jobs to the NY times? When miller figures out that his PC emails everything to the Washington Post. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ryoder 1,590 #17 February 18, 2017 Phil1111 How about a conflict when bannon figures out a Pense supporter programmed the copier to auto-fax his print jobs to the NY times? When miller figures out that his PC emails everything to the Washington Post. "There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites airdvr 210 #18 February 18, 2017 ryoder***Actually the big problem with leaks is verifying the information. I have zero problems with leaks but the media just throws it out there before it's been vetted correctly. From there the fake news folks twist it to fit their agenda. Or maybe that is the WH strategy: http://www.businessinsider.com/white-house-handling-of-controversial-plans-2017-2 Maybe not...from the article you posted... QuoteThe White House quickly denied an explosive Associated Press report published Friday morning that said the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) was seeking to mobilize 100,000 National Guard troops to round up and deport immigrants living in the US illegally. Do you think considering mobilizing the Guard to arrest people here illegally is "explosive"? Do you think protecting our borders now when the last 5 Presidents simply gave it lip service is "explosive"?Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites normiss 891 #19 February 18, 2017 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DanG 1 #20 February 18, 2017 Quote you think considering mobilizing the Guard to arrest people here illegally is "explosive"? Do you think protecting our borders now when the last 5 Presidents simply gave it lip service Yes, it's fucking terrifying. Having soldiers running around gathering people up sounds great when they're only after "those people". Not so great when the definition of "those people" starts to expand. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites RonD1120 62 #21 February 18, 2017 My wife worked in the public school system for 30 years. She is not a big fan of teacher unions. And, she is a proponent for charter schools.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites RonD1120 62 #22 February 18, 2017 billvon>There is going to be conflict. Yes, there is. It is truly remarkable that the National Security Advisor was recently fired for talking to Russia in violation of US law, and may in fact have committed a felony by lying to FBI agents - and the biggest problem that the right wing has is "well, people found out about it, and that's not acceptable!" Yes, there is going to be conflict - between the rule of law and a president who believes that he is above it. Which side will you be on? It doesn't appear as though you watched or listened to President Trump's press conference this week. He explained the facts of the General Flynn issue. You and the others here are frustrated and angry. That is understandable. You feel threatened knowing that you are forced to adjust to a new political spirit throughout the country. I believe that as the middle class becomes more secure through income and border security the adjustment will be easier for you to live with. In the meantime, I offer my services as a counselor to anyone desiring assistance. Please contact me back channel. I will not discuss your mental health or psychological issues in an open forum.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites normiss 891 #23 February 18, 2017 Ron, are you paying $200,000/yr to be one of the special people? Now I know why you like him, he thinks he's god, and you believe him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ryoder 1,590 #24 February 18, 2017 normiss Ron, are you paying $200,000/yr to be one of the special people? Now I know why you like him, he thinks he's god, and you believe him. From your link: But the familiarity of Mar-a-Lago -- where Trump has long spent winter weekends -- is critical for him, longtime aides said. “I would say it’s keeping him grounded,” said Sam Nunberg, a longtime Trump aide who worked on the campaign. “As a citizen and supporter, I’m very happy to hear he’s going to Mar-a-Lago.” Now that raht thar is funny! I don't care who yeh are!"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,146 #25 February 18, 2017 RonD1120My wife worked in the public school system for 30 years. She is not a big fan of teacher unions. And, she is a proponent for charter schools. SO what? She married you, so that indicates a lot.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. 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headoverheels 334 #7 February 17, 2017 I think that the total security cost over four years for Trump and family will be way, way over $1B for all entities. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,172 #8 February 17, 2017 IMO the concept of using either a 747 or trumps 757 is such a stupefying environmental waste. When a Gulfstream or a Cessna jet would suffice. I wonder if trump believes this train of thought that the national security agencies are controlled or been systematically infiltrated by "Islamist's"? I can't be bothered to explore this concept of thinking/thought. Does anybody have quotes from trump to such effect? Or from the mouths of bannon and/or miller? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,594 #9 February 17, 2017 RonD1120IMO, all of them are enemies of America. The American Federation of Teachers? Makes sense I guess. If they succeeded in their evil plot to improve educational standards you wouldn't be able to find anyone ignorant enough to believe your nonsense anymore.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #10 February 17, 2017 QuoteSo what do you think about Trump being on track to spend more on AF1 for personal use in one year then Obama did in his 8? Cite?Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #11 February 17, 2017 Phil1111IMO the concept of using either a 747 or trumps 757 is such a stupefying environmental waste. When a Gulfstream or a Cessna jet would suffice. For a normal billionaire you're 100% correct. For the President, regardless of who sits in the Oval, nope. Pretty much has to be what it is. There's far more to it than just getting from point A to point B. I in NO WAY support Trump, but the plane comes with the office for a good reason.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #12 February 17, 2017 airdvrActually the big problem with leaks is verifying the information. I have zero problems with leaks but the media just throws it out there before it's been vetted correctly. From there the fake news folks twist it to fit their agenda. Or maybe that is the WH strategy: http://www.businessinsider.com/white-house-handling-of-controversial-plans-2017-2"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,594 #13 February 17, 2017 Which is why every other 1st world country or world power has the same thing. Oh wait...Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,107 #14 February 17, 2017 >There is going to be conflict. Yes, there is. It is truly remarkable that the National Security Advisor was recently fired for talking to Russia in violation of US law, and may in fact have committed a felony by lying to FBI agents - and the biggest problem that the right wing has is "well, people found out about it, and that's not acceptable!" Yes, there is going to be conflict - between the rule of law and a president who believes that he is above it. Which side will you be on? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #15 February 17, 2017 Phil1111IMO the concept of using either a 747 or trumps 757 is such a stupefying environmental waste. When a Gulfstream or a Cessna jet would suffice. The plane has a lot of technology in its onboard medical facility. The medical room has an extensive pharmacy, loads of emergency room equipment and even a fold-out operating table. The plane also has a staff doctor, who travels with the president wherever he goes. On every mission, the plane is prepared for a wide range of potential emergencies. Unlike a normal 747, the plane has its own retractable stairways, for the rear entrance and the front entrance. These stairways open onto the lower deck, and crew members and staff climb internal staircases to get to the upper decks. The plane also has its own baggage-loader. With these additions, the plane never has to depend on an airport’s facilities, which could be a security risk. The most remarkable feature on the plane is it’s extensive electronics. It has 85 onboard telephones, a collection of two-way radios, fax machines and computer connections. It also has 19 televisions and assorted office equipment. The phone system is set up for normal air to ground connections and secure lines. The president and his staff can reach just about anybody in the world while cruising tens of thousands of feet in the air. The onboard electronics include about 238 miles of wiring (twice the amount you’d find in a normal 747). Heavy shielding is tough enough to protect the wiring and crucial electronics from the electromagnetic pulse associated with a nuclear blast. Another special addition is the in-flight refueling connection. As with the B-2 and other combat craft, in-flight refueling gives Air Force One the ability to stay up in the air indefinitely, which could be crucial in an emergency situation. Some of the most interesting parts of the plane — it’s advanced avionics and defenses — are classified. But the Air Force asserts the two planes are definitely military aircraft, designed to withstand an air attack. Among other things, the plane is outfitted with electronic counter measures (ECM) to jam enemy radar. The plane can also eject flares to throw heat-seeking missiles off course. Source: https://www.aviationcv.com/aviation-blog/2016/air-force-one"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,172 #16 February 18, 2017 ryoder***Actually the big problem with leaks is verifying the information. I have zero problems with leaks but the media just throws it out there before it's been vetted correctly. From there the fake news folks twist it to fit their agenda. Or maybe that is the WH strategy: http://www.businessinsider.com/white-house-handling-of-controversial-plans-2017-2 How about a conflict when bannon figures out a Pense supporter programmed the copier to auto-fax his print jobs to the NY times? When miller figures out that his PC emails everything to the Washington Post. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #17 February 18, 2017 Phil1111 How about a conflict when bannon figures out a Pense supporter programmed the copier to auto-fax his print jobs to the NY times? When miller figures out that his PC emails everything to the Washington Post. "There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #18 February 18, 2017 ryoder***Actually the big problem with leaks is verifying the information. I have zero problems with leaks but the media just throws it out there before it's been vetted correctly. From there the fake news folks twist it to fit their agenda. Or maybe that is the WH strategy: http://www.businessinsider.com/white-house-handling-of-controversial-plans-2017-2 Maybe not...from the article you posted... QuoteThe White House quickly denied an explosive Associated Press report published Friday morning that said the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) was seeking to mobilize 100,000 National Guard troops to round up and deport immigrants living in the US illegally. Do you think considering mobilizing the Guard to arrest people here illegally is "explosive"? Do you think protecting our borders now when the last 5 Presidents simply gave it lip service is "explosive"?Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #20 February 18, 2017 Quote you think considering mobilizing the Guard to arrest people here illegally is "explosive"? Do you think protecting our borders now when the last 5 Presidents simply gave it lip service Yes, it's fucking terrifying. Having soldiers running around gathering people up sounds great when they're only after "those people". Not so great when the definition of "those people" starts to expand. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #21 February 18, 2017 My wife worked in the public school system for 30 years. She is not a big fan of teacher unions. And, she is a proponent for charter schools.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #22 February 18, 2017 billvon>There is going to be conflict. Yes, there is. It is truly remarkable that the National Security Advisor was recently fired for talking to Russia in violation of US law, and may in fact have committed a felony by lying to FBI agents - and the biggest problem that the right wing has is "well, people found out about it, and that's not acceptable!" Yes, there is going to be conflict - between the rule of law and a president who believes that he is above it. Which side will you be on? It doesn't appear as though you watched or listened to President Trump's press conference this week. He explained the facts of the General Flynn issue. You and the others here are frustrated and angry. That is understandable. You feel threatened knowing that you are forced to adjust to a new political spirit throughout the country. I believe that as the middle class becomes more secure through income and border security the adjustment will be easier for you to live with. In the meantime, I offer my services as a counselor to anyone desiring assistance. Please contact me back channel. I will not discuss your mental health or psychological issues in an open forum.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 891 #23 February 18, 2017 Ron, are you paying $200,000/yr to be one of the special people? Now I know why you like him, he thinks he's god, and you believe him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #24 February 18, 2017 normiss Ron, are you paying $200,000/yr to be one of the special people? Now I know why you like him, he thinks he's god, and you believe him. From your link: But the familiarity of Mar-a-Lago -- where Trump has long spent winter weekends -- is critical for him, longtime aides said. “I would say it’s keeping him grounded,” said Sam Nunberg, a longtime Trump aide who worked on the campaign. “As a citizen and supporter, I’m very happy to hear he’s going to Mar-a-Lago.” Now that raht thar is funny! I don't care who yeh are!"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #25 February 18, 2017 RonD1120My wife worked in the public school system for 30 years. She is not a big fan of teacher unions. And, she is a proponent for charter schools. SO what? She married you, so that indicates a lot.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites