There is going to be conflict.

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President Trump was speaking to a room full of enemies. I thought he played them masterfully.

Of course you would. Because you seem to agree with Trumps philosophy that ANYTHING that doesn't fit with your particular view / opinion of events must not only be fake, but a direct attack on your world view.

But eventually, when he's shown to be a lying, corrupt narcissist / wannabe dictator and goes down in history as not only the least popular but also the least effective president in the US I offer my services as a counselor to anyone desiring assistance. Please contact me back channel. I will not discuss your mental health or psychological issues in an open forum...


And the fact that you continually throw around your 'counselling' background as some sort of deeper understanding of human nature than anyone else just shows how weak your ability to make cogent arguments and rational judgements are.

You're not the only semi-bright person in here, Ron.

I'd like to understand what you mean by 'conflict'. I'd expect a counselor to be more precise with their words.
Of course there will be a conflict - that's inherent in any 2 people having a difference of opinion. They have conflicting views... I want to know if you mean 'armed / violent conflict because I suspect that THAT is something you'd welcome.

[billvon 3,110]

>President Trump was speaking to a room full of enemies.

He is always speaking to a room full of enemies. From his perspective, the people of the US are his enemy, with their constant demands he tell the truth and follow the Constitution. Sad!

[jakee 1,594]

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President Trump was speaking to a room full of enemies.

For someone who whined and moaned for years about Obama dividing the country, you now seem to think it's a virtue that Trump actively portrays the entire American press corps, and indeed anyone who disagrees with anything that he does, as his enemies.

How's that for cognitive dissonance!

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I thought he played them masterfully.

Yeah, he made himself look stupid in so many different ways they couldn't possibly report them all. Genius.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[gowlerk 2,274]

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Yeah, he made himself look stupid in so many different ways they couldn't possibly report them all. Genius.

Indeed. The man has so many flaws it's hard to focus on one for long. But he will keep the three ring circus going and the focus on himself while his minions quietly go about their work. Haven't heard a peep about Prince Bannon for a while now.

Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

[Phil1111 1,172]

jakee

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President Trump was speaking to a room full of enemies.

For someone who whined and moaned for years about Obama dividing the country, you now seem to think it's a virtue that Trump actively portrays the entire American press corps, and indeed anyone who disagrees with anything that he does, as his enemies.

How's that for cognitive dissonance!

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I thought he played them masterfully.

Yeah, he made himself look stupid in so many different ways they couldn't possibly report them all. Genius.

"Cognitive dissonance" would be familiar to anyone who passed a Psy 101 class in college.

Populists like trump need a enemy. A boogeyman so to speak in order to formulate the parameters for a group to think they are under attack.To develop a commonness of the group.Defining the collective identity. Cuba and Venezuela used the US for decades and decades. It was convenient for Castro and it was convenient for Chavez. Several enemies can explain almost anything that is unfortunate, distressing or causes progress not to take place.

trump had HRC, Obama and the left to blame before. Now he has to invent new ones to focus on like the media and the courts. He is campaigning now because he needs to keep the base in line. Understanding that leaks, the media and the courts have interfered with the groups objectives. He keeps the neo-nazi right wing on board by refusing to condemn antisemitism. The anti-immigration crown by blaming "fifth-column" Islamists, Mexicans, etc. etc.

Just as he abandoned "lock-her-up", "the fix is in", "its rigged you know, you know that right", etc. He picks up new ones. Today its the courts and the media. Tomorrow it will be the republican party.

[wmw999 2,584]

"Playing his enemies" is not what I expect or hope from my President. I expect him to understand his position, and stand for it, rather than against his "enemies" (who are members of the constitutionally protected free press). Maybe your term of "enemy" reflects how you felt about the previously elected president; that's a shame -- you're a citizen of a country where you can participate in the political process. You just don't alway win.

I'm not your enemy. I'm a fellow citizen who disagrees with some of what you say, and with some of what the president says. It's offensive to suggest that we need re-education.

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

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wmw999

I'm not your enemy. I'm a fellow citizen who disagrees with some of what you say, and with some of what the president says. It's offensive to suggest that we need re-education.

You're going to cause conflict!

Stop resisting.

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Phil1111

"Cognitive dissonance" would be familiar to anyone who passed a Psy 101 class in college.

Anyone at all really. All that's needed is a modicum of intellectual curiosity and the person is likely to run into the phrase.

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[nigel99 616]

jakee

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President Trump was speaking to a room full of enemies.

For someone who whined and moaned for years about Obama dividing the country, you now seem to think it's a virtue that Trump actively portrays the entire American press corps, and indeed anyone who disagrees with anything that he does, as his enemies.

How's that for cognitive dissonance!

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I thought he played them masterfully.

Yeah, he made himself look stupid in so many different ways they couldn't possibly report them all. Genius.

Well at least Trump will succeed in uniting the nation (they'll all hate him by the time he's done)

Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived.

[ryoder 1,590]

Phil1111

"Cognitive dissonance" would be familiar to anyone who passed a Psy 101 class in college.

I remember those guys from college!
I think they opened for the Rolling Stones at Red Rocks.

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[RonD1120 62]

Here is something for you all to ponder.

"You see what you believe is there, and you believe it is there because you want it there." ~A Course In Miracles

That is true for me and for you.

That questions are, what do you think is next? What are you going to do?

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[gowlerk 2,274]

RonD1120

Here is something for you all to ponder.

"You see what you believe is there, and you believe it is there because you want it there." ~A Course In Miracles

That is true for me and for you.

That questions are, what do you think is next? What are you going to do?

One of the most true things I've seen from you. But the link doesn't work. If you fix it I'll read it!

Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

[Phil1111 1,172]

correece

******My wife worked in the public school system for 30 years. She is not a big fan of teacher unions. And, she is a proponent for charter schools.

SO what? She married you, so that indicates a lot.

What a pompous prick.

I could come up with at least a half dozen jokes about you and your X-number of wives, but even I wouldn't stoop so low.

This country would be blessed to have your students become only half the piece of donkey shit that you are. . .

Oh lighten up. Ron brought her name into the equation as having similar views to himself.

[RonD1120 62]

It is a book title, not a link.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[Phil1111 1,172]

gowlerk

***Here is something for you all to ponder.

"You see what you believe is there, and you believe it is there because you want it there." ~A Course In Miracles

That is true for me and for you.

That questions are, what do you think is next? What are you going to do?

One of the most true things I've seen from you. But the link doesn't work. If you fix it I'll read it!

Knock yourself out:

http://stobblehouse.com/text/ACIM.pdf

[jakee 1,594]

RonD1120

"You see what you believe is there, and you believe it is there because you want it there." ~A Course In Miracles

That is true for me and for you.

Which plays very well for the Trump 'the unemployment rate is whatever we believe it to be' Administration.

However, there is such a thing as objective reality. Wishing and wanting things doesn't make them so. Parachutes aren't made of pig iron, for instance.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[gowlerk 2,274]

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Parachutes aren't made of pig iron, for instance.

But for a wuffo they may as well be. Which is the point. Every person has their own reality. Most people in any given society have large overlaps in their reality. But not in all the same places. Trump's reality mostly aligns with yours, but not in some very key areas.

Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

[quade 4]

gowlerk

Every person has their own reality.

Every person may have their own perception of reality, but actual reality exists separate of the individual.

Reality is like the honey badger, it doesn't give a fuck.

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[jakee 1,594]

gowlerk

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Parachutes aren't made of pig iron, for instance.

But for a wuffo they may as well be.

Not if they try and tell me to use one.

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Trump's reality mostly aligns with yours, but not in some very key areas.

Trump's reality doesn't align with reality, in some key areas. Areas that are not a matter of opinion, but of fact and a reality that is not my reality, but the real reality.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[billvon 3,110]

>"You see what you believe is there, and you believe it is there because you want it
>there." ~A Course In Miracles

>That is true for me and for you.

It may be true for you, and perhaps true for the people in your compound. It is certainly true for Trump. I don't have the luxury of making up my own facts and then believing in them, since I am a research engineer.

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billvon

>"You see what you believe is there, and you believe it is there because you want it
>there." ~A Course In Miracles

>That is true for me and for you.

It may be true for you, and perhaps true for the people in your compound. It is certainly true for Trump. I don't have the luxury of making up my own facts and then believing in them, since I am a research engineer.

Clearly you need to start believing in time machines and anti-gravity.

...

The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[billvon 3,110]

>Clearly you need to start believing in time machines and anti-gravity.

I have been told there is a great market for 100mpg carburetors, over-unity machines and zero point energy extractors. The LIEberal laws of thermodynamics are just job-killing bureaucratic regulations that Obama created. I hear that Trump is going to shut down that agency and repeal them; thank God we finally have a leader who is willing to fight!

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billvon

>Clearly you need to start believing in time machines and anti-gravity.

I have been told there is a great market for 100mpg carburetors, over-unity machines and zero point energy extractors. The LIEberal laws of thermodynamics are just job-killing bureaucratic regulations that Obama created. I hear that Trump is going to shut down that agency and repeal them; thank God we finally have a leader who is willing to fight!

How naive you are. The 100mpg carburetor would be a job killer in the petroleum industry, as well as for some parts manufacturers. Will always be suppressed.

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billvon

>"You see what you believe is there, and you believe it is there because you want it
>there." ~A Course In Miracles

>That is true for me and for you.

It may be true for you, and perhaps true for the people in your compound. It is certainly true for Trump. I don't have the luxury of making up my own facts and then believing in them, since I am a research engineer.

And, you have those folks in your compound, your professional peer group, to support your beliefs. I take no exception to that. All I have ever attempted, as a base premise, is that there is more to the picture than you are seeing or considering.

It is all good. We all need something to occupy our minds until the big event, i.e. rapture or death. I simply believe my path has eternal benefits.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[billvon 3,110]

>And, you have those folks in your compound, your professional peer group, to
>support your beliefs.

Well, many of the people who support my ideas aren't really in my "professional peer group." They're people like Faraday, Maxwell and Ampere. More recently, people like the US Patent Office, the IEEE and the Airfuel Alliance.

>All I have ever attempted, as a base premise, is that there is more to the picture
>than you are seeing or considering.

Of course there is. That's why I have a job; finding out what else there is to the picture. If I looked at that picture and saw what I believed to be there, and I believed it because I wanted it to be there, then I would quickly be out of a job.

People who do not have to produce things that work do not have that constraint.