Russiagate

[billvon 3,092]

Congratulations on being the first post on the 100th page of this thread!

Meanwhile, it looks like Nikki Haley has gotten between Putin and Trump. She's probably next to get the old heave-ho.

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

Well, Trump found a lawyer.

Rudy Giuliani.

His role will be "limited", and he will focus on interfacing with Mueller, who he knows personally.

He plans on getting a list from Mueller of what is needed to comply with the investigation, and thinks it will be a 'few weeks' to do that.

I'm kinda curious how 'complying with' the investigation will bring it to a close, but he seems to think that's the case.

Interestingly, he has taken leave from the firm he's with, for "matters unrelated to the firm or it's clients."
It's noted in the story that many lawyers and firms have declined to work for Trump, for a variety of reasons.
One of those reasons is the potential backlash from other clients or potential clients.

"There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy

"~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo

[rushmc 23]

So when are you going to post that comey's memos, that were released today, blow most of the bullshit of collusion out of the water?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

So did Comey lied to us and his media sycophants? Or did he lie to himself when he wrote his own memos?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[gowlerk 2,262]

rushmc

So did Comey lied to us and his media sycophants? Or did he lie to himself when he wrote his own memos?

You've been watching too much Alex Jones. There is only one Liar in Chief, and his name is not Comey.

Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

[rushmc 23]

The news outlets you prefer have not been talking about the late today released James Comey memos have they?

Not surprising!



And I did not know who Alex Jones was until I clicked on a link here just lately. So your mind reading skills are as bad as every other liberal I reply to on this site.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[gowlerk 2,262]

Well Marc, CNN does have this:

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/04/20/kth-coordinated-smear-campaign-mueller-comey-sot.cnn

Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

[jcd11235 0]

gowlerk

Well Marc, CNN does have this …

CNN is just a propaganda outlet for extreme centrists.

ETA: NPR did an article:

"Overall, the documents confirm much of what has become a familiar narrative about the president and the onetime top G-Man".

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[billvon 3,092]

>He plans on getting a list from Mueller of what is needed to comply with the investigation,
>and thinks it will be a 'few weeks' to do that.

After 9/11, I am sure he is very good at that. After all, 9/11. And in a few weeks, 9/11.

[jakee 1,582]

rushmc

And I did not know who Alex Jones was until I clicked on a link here just lately. So your mind reading skills are as bad as every other liberal I reply to on this site.

Here's a thread you started in 2013 with a link to Alex Jones's Infowars site. When someone said they didn't read anything from Infowars you said "Your loss".

Here is a thread from 2014 you started with an Infowars link, where someone tells you that Infowars is a conspiracy theory site led by Alex Jones.

Here's one from 2015 where you post another Infowars link and several people respond to you, and you to them, with Alex Jones' name.

And here is another thread from exactly a year ago where you start pretending not to know who Alex Jones is, despite having swallowed his nonsense hook, line and sinker on numerous occasions.

Why the lies, Rush? Why all of the stupid, obvious, easily proven lies?

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[billvon 3,092]

>The news outlets you prefer have not been talking about the late today released
>James Comey memos have they?

Absolutely. Here's AP:

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In Comey memos, Trump fixates on 'hookers,' frets over Flynn's 'judgment issues'
James Comey

Mary Clare Jalonick, Eric Tucker and Chad Day
Associated Press

In a series of startlingly candid conversations, President Donald Trump told former FBI Director James Comey that he had serious concerns about the judgment of a top adviser, asked about the possibility of jailing journalists and described a boast from Vladimir Putin about Russian prostitutes, according to Comey's notes of the talks obtained by The Associated Press on Thursday night.

The 15 pages of documents contain new details about a series of interactions with Trump that Comey found so unnerving that he chose to document them in writing. Those seven encounters in the weeks and months before Comey's May 2017 firing include a Trump Tower discussion about allegations involving Trump and prostitutes in Moscow; a White House dinner at which Comey says Trump asked him for his loyalty; and a private Oval Office discussion where the ex-FBI head says the president asked him to end an investigation into Michael Flynn, the former White House national security adviser. . . .

In a February 2017 conversation, for instance, Trump told Comey how Putin told him, "we have some of the most beautiful hookers in the world" even as the president adamantly, and repeatedly, distanced himself from a salacious allegation concerning him and prostitutes in Moscow, according to one memo.
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Here's NPR:

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James Comey Memos: Trump Acknowledged Flynn Had 'Judgment Issues'
April 19, 201810:30 PM ET
PHILIP EWING

President Trump pointed his fingers at his own head and said then-national security adviser Michael Flynn had "serious judgment issues," according to a redacted, unclassified version of then-FBI Director James Comey's original memo about his fateful dinner with Trump.

That's one new detail included in copies of the memoranda sent by the Justice Department to Congress on Thursday evening in response to a request from the leaders of the Judiciary and intelligence committees.

Trump questioned Flynn's judgment while telling an anecdote about the foreign leaders who had called Trump to congratulate him after his inauguration. Flynn hadn't told Trump about one call and hadn't scheduled a response until six days afterward, according to Comey's memo — for which Trump upbraided Flynn. The leader and the country are not identified in the redacted version of the document.
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Here's one from CNN, which I presume you are referring to as Golerk's "preferred" outlet:

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Comey memos renew questions over Trump's behavior
Analysis by Stephen Collinson, CNN

Updated 2:04 AM ET, Fri April 20, 2018

Washington (CNN) - If House Republicans thought they were helping President Donald Trump by forcing the release of James Comey's memos, they might want to think again.

The documents written by the then-FBI director, detailing his interactions with Trump, present a contemporaneous and deeply unflattering view of a President throwing his weight around in his first days in the White House -- that at the very least seems highly inappropriate.

Only special counsel Robert Mueller can decide whether the stunning accounts of conversations in which the President got the then-FBI director alone in the White House and leaned on him amount to obstruction of justice.

The Comey memos suggest Trump has a scattershot and self-obsessed mindset, brooding about his subordinates, leaks, his campaign and his inaugural crowd size and not appreciating or caring about protocol boundaries that separate the White House and the Justice Department.
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[Phil1111 1,152]

jcd11235

***Well Marc, CNN does have this …

ETA: NPR did an article:

"Overall, the documents confirm much of what has become a familiar narrative about the president and the onetime top G-Man".

Translation: Flynn is not loyal given he is assisting Mueller. He should have waited for a pardon like the other remaining trump loyalists. Right Marc? BTW are you going to help Alex Jones out in his legal defense?

[rushmc 23]

I knew what you guys were going to say before you said it. I did watch CNN for as long as I could stomach it. You posted exactly what they wanted you to post. If you want to know what was really said in the memos look them up and read them yourself. Because the twist in spin you're putting on them is not what they say.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4442900-Ex-FBI-Director-James-Comey-s-memos.html

Here's a link just for you Bill!

As a point of reference, and the lies that the media puts out that you'd like to repost, remember when it was reported that Trump said the White House was a dump? I'm pretty sure it was dutifully reported someplace on this site! Anyway, if you read through comey's notes, it shows that he compares the White House very well to one of his favorite places. Just proving another media live from the sources you like to quote so often!

Another lie? Another lie was that Trump tried to stop the investigation. Reading through the memos that's not what he says.

He also admits that he leaked classified information.

Just keep posting guys. I enjoy it!

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[JoeWeber 2,897]

jakee

***And I did not know who Alex Jones was until I clicked on a link here just lately. So your mind reading skills are as bad as every other liberal I reply to on this site.

Here's a thread you started in 2013 with a link to Alex Jones's Infowars site. When someone said they didn't read anything from Infowars you said "Your loss".

Here is a thread from 2014 you started with an Infowars link, where someone tells you that Infowars is a conspiracy theory site led by Alex Jones.

Here's one from 2015 where you post another Infowars link and several people respond to you, and you to them, with Alex Jones' name.

And here is another thread from exactly a year ago where you start pretending not to know who Alex Jones is, despite having swallowed his nonsense hook, line and sinker on numerous occasions.

Why the lies, Rush? Why all of the stupid, obvious, easily proven lies?

Marc's sayings are not reasoned opinions as much as they are regurgitations from a belief system. Until FOX and the whole right wing media enterprise gave them ostensible experts to quote and follow it was usually easy to defeat their claims and gain their silence for a while. Now they have mail order medical degrees in cutting and pasting and are as expert as their experts, so there!

Like Ron and Jaybird he can not give a millimeter or the whole thing starts falling apart. Those who subscribe to Marc's way of thinking (who are, apparently, an astonishing 63 million in number), in the same way as the devoutly religious, can not by reason or fact be persuaded otherwise. Without realizing it they simply follow Stephen Jay Gould's, quite wrong I think, theory that our domains of thinking and theirs are non-overlapping magisteria.

In the end, their delusions and their tribes are all they have. And, like the devoutly religious, they believe the end times are nigh and the evidence, in the form of Obama/Satan's and Clinton/Benghazi's and yada, yada, yada is everywhere if only we would open our dumb progressive science gay loving liberal eye's and just look. Hence my belief that there is absolutely zero to be gained by engaging them in conversation. It will never, ever go anywhere but to back the where it began.

[gowlerk 2,262]

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I knew what you guys were going to say before you said it.

Yes it's true. We are so mean to you. We always come after you with those pesky downright evil facts. It must be terrible for you to watch the garbage right wing Trump apologists on TV and get your new marching orders on what to say. Then you come here all puffed up and attempt to spread the new version of the blather all over the page. Only to be shot down again and again by those damn facts.

But not to worry. Tomorrow there will be new versions of the lies for you to spread. A fresh layer of manure to cover your screen with and we can do it again.

Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

[Phil1111 1,152]

JoeWeber

******And I did not know who Alex Jones was until I clicked on a link here just lately. So your mind reading skills are as bad as every other liberal I reply to on this site.

Here's a thread you started in 2013 with a link to Alex Jones's Infowars site. When someone said they didn't read anything from Infowars you said "Your loss".

Here is a thread from 2014 you started with an Infowars link, where someone tells you that Infowars is a conspiracy theory site led by Alex Jones.

Here's one from 2015 where you post another Infowars link and several people respond to you, and you to them, with Alex Jones' name.

And here is another thread from exactly a year ago where you start pretending not to know who Alex Jones is, despite having swallowed his nonsense hook, line and sinker on numerous occasions.

Why the lies, Rush? Why all of the stupid, obvious, easily proven lies?

Marc's sayings are not reasoned opinions as much as they are regurgitations from a belief system. Until FOX and the whole right wing media enterprise gave them ostensible experts to quote and follow it was usually easy to defeat their claims and gain their silence for a while. Now they have mail order medical degrees in cutting and pasting and are as expert as their experts, so there!

Like Ron and Jaybird he can not give a millimeter or the whole thing starts falling apart. Those who subscribe to Marc's way of thinking (who are, apparently, an astonishing 63 million in number), in the same way as the devoutly religious, can not by reason or fact be persuaded otherwise. Without realizing it they simply follow Stephen Jay Gould's, quite wrong I think, theory that our domains of thinking and theirs are non-overlapping magisteria.

In the end, their delusions and their tribes are all they have. And, like the devoutly religious, they believe the end times are nigh and the evidence, in the form of Obama/Satan's and Clinton/Benghazi's and yada, yada, yada is everywhere if only we would open our dumb progressive science gay loving liberal eye's and just look. Hence my belief that there is absolutely zero to be gained by engaging them in conversation. It will never, ever go anywhere but to back the where it began.

Apt insight. Its unfortunate that the damage that trump is doing to the republican party. Will undoubtedly lead to a swing of the pendulum as much if not further, in the opposite direction.

Hopefully a leader will come forward that internalizes truth and a national interest to protect everyone.

[DJL 235]

jakee

***And I did not know who Alex Jones was until I clicked on a link here just lately. So your mind reading skills are as bad as every other liberal I reply to on this site.

Here's a thread you started in 2013 with a link to Alex Jones's Infowars site. When someone said they didn't read anything from Infowars you said "Your loss".

Here is a thread from 2014 you started with an Infowars link, where someone tells you that Infowars is a conspiracy theory site led by Alex Jones.

Here's one from 2015 where you post another Infowars link and several people respond to you, and you to them, with Alex Jones' name.

And here is another thread from exactly a year ago where you start pretending not to know who Alex Jones is, despite having swallowed his nonsense hook, line and sinker on numerous occasions.

Why the lies, Rush? Why all of the stupid, obvious, easily proven lies?

That's so Deep State of you to bring facts to the table.

"I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

[Phil1111 1,152]

DJL

******And I did not know who Alex Jones was until I clicked on a link here just lately. So your mind reading skills are as bad as every other liberal I reply to on this site.

Here's a thread you started in 2013 with a link to Alex Jones's Infowars site. When someone said they didn't read anything from Infowars you said "Your loss".

Here is a thread from 2014 you started with an Infowars link, where someone tells you that Infowars is a conspiracy theory site led by Alex Jones.

Here's one from 2015 where you post another Infowars link and several people respond to you, and you to them, with Alex Jones' name.

And here is another thread from exactly a year ago where you start pretending not to know who Alex Jones is, despite having swallowed his nonsense hook, line and sinker on numerous occasions.

Why the lies, Rush? Why all of the stupid, obvious, easily proven lies?

That's so Deep State of you to bring facts to the table.

Thats prima facie that Marc has not only bought, read, but internalized the entirety of the representations in ALL of trump's books on fact management.

[nolhtairt 0]

Ben Shapiro's article:

https://www.dailywire.com/news/29672/6-things-you-need-know-about-released-comey-memos-ben-shapiro

[nolhtairt 0]

Now this is the stupidest shit ever, by a political party.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/20/democratic-party-files-suit-alleging-russia-the-trump-campaign-and-wikileaks-conspired-to-disrupt-the-2016-election-report.html

[DJL 235]

nolhtairt

Now this is the stupidest shit ever, by a political party.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/20/democratic-party-files-suit-alleging-russia-the-trump-campaign-and-wikileaks-conspired-to-disrupt-the-2016-election-report.html

I'm not a fan of that. They need to let the investigators do their work instead of turning this into a political hit job.

"I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

[nolhtairt 0]

DJL

***Now this is the stupidest shit ever, by a political party.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/20/democratic-party-files-suit-alleging-russia-the-trump-campaign-and-wikileaks-conspired-to-disrupt-the-2016-election-report.html

I'm not a fan of that. They need to let the investigators do their work instead of turning this into a political hit job.

I just find it hypocritical... Crying about alleged collusion, when there's solid evidence THEY themselves colluded against Bernie Sanders...

[DJL 235]

nolhtairt

******Now this is the stupidest shit ever, by a political party.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/20/democratic-party-files-suit-alleging-russia-the-trump-campaign-and-wikileaks-conspired-to-disrupt-the-2016-election-report.html

I'm not a fan of that. They need to let the investigators do their work instead of turning this into a political hit job.

I just find it hypocritical... Crying about alleged collusion, when there's solid evidence THEY themselves colluded against Bernie Sanders...

It really was like Bernie was the only one who didn't get the memo that the deck was stacked for HRC. If the DNC let the nomination process play out as it was supposed to we may have seen a broader field on the D side. As it was, nobody wanted to butt heads with Hillary so they stayed home and for the love of God she lost to this clown.

"I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

[billvon 3,092]

>I just find it hypocritical... Crying about alleged collusion, when there's solid evidence
>THEY themselves colluded against Bernie Sanders..

On the other hand, colluding with a foreign country to swing an election to the foreign country's preferred candidate is a bit different than infighting within a political party.