Russiagate

[rushmc 23]

Phil1111

******

I know it is not done

But it is now known that the Russian organized anti Trump rallies and Muller has said no American was part of the meddling IN THIS INDICTMENT

Fixed it for you....


Dreamer

Thats sort of right. Typically an indictment would arise from the reasonable ascertainment of facts that would be proven at trial.

They may, or may not, have all kinds of evidence of... wait... collusion!! Just not be certain of proving it YET.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[jakee 1,594]

rushmc

But it is now known that the Russian organized anti Trump rallies and Muller has said no American was part of the meddling

A) Except the unwitting Trump campaign tools, among others.

B) No he hasn't.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[rushmc 23]

I'd really like you guys to answer how you feel about knowing you've been manipulated by the Russian?


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/02/16/indictment-reveals-russians-also-organized-anti-trump-rallies-after-election.html

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[billvon 3,111]

>I'd really like you guys to answer how you feel about knowing you've been
>manipulated by the Russian?

Waitaminute! What happened to "it's all a hoax?"

1) There's no Russian interference in the election
2) OK there was but it's no big deal
3) It was the Democrats

[jakee 1,594]

rushmc

I'd really like you guys to answer how you feel about knowing you've been manipulated by the Russian?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/02/16/indictment-reveals-russians-also-organized-anti-trump-rallies-after-election.html

That says "after the election" Rush. I'm pretty sure if you check my posts you'd see I already didn't like Trump before the election.

How do you feel about being manipulated by the Russians in the build up to actually casting your votes in the primaries and election - y'know, when it actually makes a difference?

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[Phil1111 1,173]

jakee

***I'd really like you guys to answer how you feel about knowing you've been manipulated by the Russian?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/02/16/indictment-reveals-russians-also-organized-anti-trump-rallies-after-election.html

That says "after the election" Rush. I'm pretty sure if you check my posts you'd see I already didn't like Trump before the election.

How do you feel about being manipulated by the Russians in the build up to actually casting your votes in the primaries and election - y'know, when it actually makes a difference?

Quit bothering him while he's reading his Russian-trump dictionary, ...er ...Fox news talking points.

Or dreaming about the Russian disclosures of "pee tape"

"The dossier said that Trump reportedly asked the prostitutes to urinate on a hotel bed once slept on by President Barack Obama and first lady Michelle Obama. Moreover, Russia’s FSB security agency was said to be in possession of a videotape of the incident — the so-called “pee tape” — which could give the Russian government leverage over Trump, according to Vox.

News organizations haven’t been able to verify the hotel room incident or the existence of the “pee tape,” and the story has generally been relegated to the realm of late-night TV show jokes. On Trumpcast, Weisberg didn’t suggest that Trump’s alleged affair with Clifford or his reported encounters with other porn stars that 2006 weekend prove there was a Moscow hotel incident.

But it shows that Trump was capable of the kind of behavior alleged in the dossier, he said.

“When the dossier first came out, one of the claims from Trump and his people is that this story about him consorting with prostitutes at the Ritz-Carlton (in Moscow) was ridiculous because Trump didn’t do that kind of stuff,” Weisberg said.

But with regard to the porn star allegations, Weisberg said, “We’re up to four people who’ve had involvement in the porn industry who have alleged relationships with him.”

With Clifford, Trump pursued a threesome, according to recent reports, which also say he also pursued hookups with several other porn stars that weekend.

Wicked Pictures, an adult-film studio, sent several of its stars to schmooze with celebrities participating in the annual American Century Celebrity Golf Championship. One of the other porn stars was Jessica Drake. Just before the 2016 election, Drake came forward as one of nearly two dozen women to accuse Trump of sexual misconduct."
https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/01/17/donald-trumps-alleged-porn-star-dalliances-in-lake-tahoe-and-the-steele-dossier/

[RonD1120 62]

billvon

>13 Russians indicted for interfering in US Presidential Election

Uh oh. I wonder if any DZ.com posters will never be seen again after this?

It looks like it is all over but the wiping. No collusion on President Trump's part. The bad guys have been identified, but they will never see a court room over here. With the school tragedy it is not even top of the fold news.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[rushmc 23]

billvon

>I'd really like you guys to answer how you feel about knowing you've been
>manipulated by the Russian?

Waitaminute! What happened to "it's all a hoax?"

1) There's no Russian interference in the election
2) OK there was but it's no big deal
3) It was the Democrats

We all saw that Texas two-step coming.

It's funny when you go back and read my posts when I said that the Russians have been doing it for years. But once again you try to muddy The Waters by turning it into something different just like you do with global warming. This Thread was not about whether or not the Russians meddled. This Thread that you started was about Trump collusion.

Now we all know you've been used by the Russian trolls and Bots and you're trying to two step back slide and slippery your way out. Sorry Bill, doesn't work that way

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

All one really needs to do here is to go back and review post 1 and 2 of this thread.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

Phil1111

******I'd really like you guys to answer how you feel about knowing you've been manipulated by the Russian?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/02/16/indictment-reveals-russians-also-organized-anti-trump-rallies-after-election.html

That says "after the election" Rush. I'm pretty sure if you check my posts you'd see I already didn't like Trump before the election.

How do you feel about being manipulated by the Russians in the build up to actually casting your votes in the primaries and election - y'know, when it actually makes a difference?

Quit bothering him while he's reading his Russian-trump dictionary, ...er ...Fox news talking points.

Or dreaming about the Russian disclosures of "pee tape"

"The dossier said that Trump reportedly asked the prostitutes to urinate on a hotel bed once slept on by President Barack Obama and first lady Michelle Obama. Moreover, Russia’s FSB security agency was said to be in possession of a videotape of the incident — the so-called “pee tape” — which could give the Russian government leverage over Trump, according to Vox.

News organizations haven’t been able to verify the hotel room incident or the existence of the “pee tape,” and the story has generally been relegated to the realm of late-night TV show jokes. On Trumpcast, Weisberg didn’t suggest that Trump’s alleged affair with Clifford or his reported encounters with other porn stars that 2006 weekend prove there was a Moscow hotel incident.

But it shows that Trump was capable of the kind of behavior alleged in the dossier, he said.

“When the dossier first came out, one of the claims from Trump and his people is that this story about him consorting with prostitutes at the Ritz-Carlton (in Moscow) was ridiculous because Trump didn’t do that kind of stuff,” Weisberg said.

But with regard to the porn star allegations, Weisberg said, “We’re up to four people who’ve had involvement in the porn industry who have alleged relationships with him.”

With Clifford, Trump pursued a threesome, according to recent reports, which also say he also pursued hookups with several other porn stars that weekend.

Wicked Pictures, an adult-film studio, sent several of its stars to schmooze with celebrities participating in the annual American Century Celebrity Golf Championship. One of the other porn stars was Jessica Drake. Just before the 2016 election, Drake came forward as one of nearly two dozen women to accuse Trump of sexual misconduct."
https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/01/17/donald-trumps-alleged-porn-star-dalliances-in-lake-tahoe-and-the-steele-dossier/


And here, ladies and gentlemen, we have the perfect example of those who are being led around by the Russians. The Russians that Mueller charged in his investigation. The useful tool has never been so apparent as in this post to which I am replying!

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

The goal now, it would seem to me, is that these Russian agitators will keep using all the useful tools they have here in the United States to keep spreading discourse and distrust of both parties. Especially against Trump through the midterm so that it can be used as a issue going through the midterms. We will watch Phil lead the way here!

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[Phil1111 1,173]

rushmc

The goal now, it would seem to me, is that these Russian agitators will keep using all the useful tools they have here in the United States to keep spreading discourse and distrust of both parties. Especially against Trump through the midterm so that it can be used as a issue going through the midterms. We will watch Phil lead the way here!

Straight out of the Saint Petersburg troll farm. Does the picture attached look familiar for some here?

We analyzed 17 months of Fox & Friends transcripts. It’s far weirder than state-run media.
How the Fox morning show evolved into Donald Trump’s posse.

"What we found is that Fox & Friends has a symbiotic relationship with Trump that is far weirder and more interesting than state media. Instead of talking for Trump, they are talking to him.

The regular hosts — Steve Doocy, Brian Kilmeade, and Ainsley Earhardt — and their rotating cast of guests increasingly view their role as giving advice to the president. They prognosticate on what the president, his staff, or his party should do. And it’s all couched in language that makes it seem they are on his side — that the damning news reports from mainstream media were unfair obstacles to his presidency."
https://www.vox.com/2017/8/7/16083122/breakfast-club-fox-and-friends

Russia’s troll factory also paid for 100 activists in the US
https://qz.com/1104195/russian-political-hacking-the-internet-research-agency-troll-farm-by-the-numbers/

[rushmc 23]

billvon

>I'd really like you guys to answer how you feel about knowing you've been
>manipulated by the Russian?

Waitaminute! What happened to "it's all a hoax?"

1) There's no Russian interference in the election
2) OK there was but it's no big deal
3) It was the Democrats

And just to prove Bill likes to meddle by saying people say things other than they did, please refer to post 468 of this thread

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

I hope you are paid well by the Russians.

I would require big bucks to keep embarrassing myself like you are here.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[Phil1111 1,173]

rushmc

I hope you are paid well by the Russians.

I would require big bucks to keep embarrassing myself like you are here.

No payment is needed for you to embarrass yourself here. Perhaps you will get a software upgrade to improve English comprehension.

[rushmc 23]

Phil1111

***I hope you are paid well by the Russians.

I would require big bucks to keep embarrassing myself like you are here.

No payment is needed for you to embarrass yourself here. Perhaps you will get a software upgrade to improve English comprehension.


......says the annomus Russian bot....

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[billvon 3,111]

>No payment is needed for you to embarrass yourself here.

But the entertainment is priceless. I especially enjoyed his "I've never been wrong" claim.

[kallend 2,146]

rushmc

******I hope you are paid well by the Russians.

I would require big bucks to keep embarrassing myself like you are here.

No payment is needed for you to embarrass yourself here. Perhaps you will get a software upgrade to improve English comprehension.


......says the annomus Russian bot....

Marc can't be a Russian bot. Russians can spell and bots have dictionaries.

...

The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[ryoder 1,590]

Mueller flips American who unwittingly sold bank info to Russian trolls

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/02/mueller-flips-american-who-unwittingly-sold-bank-info-to-russian-trolls/

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[kallend 2,146]

Waddles like a duck and quacks like a duck.....

www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2018/02/14/this-is-why-kushners-gargantuan-debt-matters/?utm_term=.a5de92c252c3

...

The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[kallend 2,146]

RonD1120

***>13 Russians indicted for interfering in US Presidential Election

Uh oh. I wonder if any DZ.com posters will never be seen again after this?

It looks like it is all over but the wiping. No collusion on President Trump's part. The bad guys have been identified, but they will never see a court room over here. With the school tragedy it is not even top of the fold news.

Interesting, don't you think, that the best way the Russians could think of to damage the USA was to help get Trump elected president?

It really doesn't matter if he was actively colluding or just a Russian dupe.

...

The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[yoink 321]

kallend

******>13 Russians indicted for interfering in US Presidential Election

Uh oh. I wonder if any DZ.com posters will never be seen again after this?

It looks like it is all over but the wiping. No collusion on President Trump's part. The bad guys have been identified, but they will never see a court room over here. With the school tragedy it is not even top of the fold news.

Interesting, don't you think, that the best way the Russians could think of to damage the USA was to help get Trump elected president?

It really doesn't matter if he was actively colluding or just a Russian dupe.


Actually, it does - as far as being prosecuted for collusion goes.

In the wider scheme of 'how do we stop other countries meddling in our election' then I agree with you.

[tkhayes 348]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-mcmaster-russia-indictments-1.4541021

And now that he is whining so badly (again), it will make it even harder for him to do anything about the investigation. After all this, there is no way he can fire anyone without creating another 'massacre' event and likely action by even his party.

I am sure that the GOP mainstream cringes every time this guy opens his mouth..

The more he whines, the more I think there must be something to all this. I mean it is obviously not about being fiscally responsible and wasting money on investigations or anything like that - it is just about his image and his image alone.

[rushmc 23]

I don't think anything in this post you just made his even near correct.

Oh well...

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[tkhayes 348]

I am correct about the whining he does. pretty much every single day he is whining about the Russia investigation. You do follow his twitter feed no?

I may be exaggerating the cringing that the GOP is doing - but the exodus of his staff would support that they are at least concerned, cringing, unable to comprehend, unable to comply, unable to work with... etc.

And certainly the country as a whole is cringing when orange-man speaks. his 40-41% approval rating is not actually a majority of americans..... I expect the 53-58% disapproval is a plebiscite on the 'cringing' majority.