Russiagate

[ryoder 1,590]

Ooh! This fixes everything!
Trump Preparing Certified Letter Attesting to No Russia Ties
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-05-09/trump-preparing-certified-letter-attesting-to-no-russia-ties

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

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ryoder

Ooh! This fixes everything!
Trump Preparing Certified Letter Attesting to No Russia Ties
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-05-09/trump-preparing-certified-letter-attesting-to-no-russia-ties

Yeah, but then he won't be able to release it, because it will be under audit.

[Phil1111 1,173]

ryoder

Ooh! This fixes everything!
Trump Preparing Certified Letter Attesting to No Russia Ties
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-05-09/trump-preparing-certified-letter-attesting-to-no-russia-ties

Methinks thou dost protest too much.

Imagine ...if you can... his mind at work. Well this letter should put this all to rest, its "Certified".

Alternative reality

Ha ha ha the FBI is all mine, MINE, MINE I tell you.

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DJL

And I think everyone here, regardless of your party or opinion, knows that Trump lies almost continuously. He lies so much that we've practically gotten used to just ignoring what he says and knowing that it's a lie and he's just going to lie the next day when he changes his mind but needs to lie about yesterday's lie.

This is a very real, genuine concern.

I think we're going to be shocked at how fast voter-apathy is going to set in. I think unless something nuclear happens in the next 6 months, Trump will have set the precedent for how the next several presidents conduct their business, at least.

More than I can ever remember, spin, out right lies and braggadocio are the tools of statecraft - at least internally. And if it works, even a little, we'll only see more of it.

[billvon 3,111]

>Trump Preparing Certified Letter Attesting to No Russia Ties

And to prove it, today his official daily schedule has exactly one event on it - meeting with the Russians. Nothing else.

Good to know with everything that's going on with Comey, the healthcare bill, the problems in Syria, his family getting caught embezzling from the Chinese - he has time for his most important ally.

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billvon

>Lying to Congress - imagine the outrage if HRC had done this last summer.

Totally different. This was lying to Congress to help elect Trump. I'd expect him to get a medal from the GOP.

LOFL


You guys are losing it!

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

billvon

>Just read on the Guardian web site that Trump has sacked Comey

He was getting uncomfortably close to the truth.

And now the Dems do not know what to do because they wanted him fired too!

And Bill

There is no "there" there.
Even Flynn did nothing illegal.


The sound of the deflation is going to be defining when this dry's up and goes away

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[billvon 3,111]

>So why the F**k does everyone blame poor Sean. He needs crib notes to keep up
>with all the lying. He is going to need a psychiatrist for the rest of his life.

It's gotten so bad that he is now literally hiding in the dark behind the bushes to avoid cameras and reporters.

No, that's not an exaggeration. From WaPo:

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White House press secretary Sean Spicer wrapped up his brief interview with Fox Business from the White House grounds late Tuesday night and then disappeared into the shadows, huddling with his staff behind a tall hedge. To get back to his office, Spicer would have to pass a swarm of reporters wanting to know why President Trump suddenly decided to fire the FBI director.

For more than three hours, Spicer and his staff had been scrambling to answer that question. Spicer had wanted to drop the bombshell news in an emailed statement, but it was not transmitting quickly enough, so he ended up standing in the doorway of the press office around 5:40 p.m. and shouting a statement to reporters who happened to be nearby. He then vanished, with his staff locking the door leading to his office. The press staff said that Spicer might do a briefing, then announced that he definitely wouldn't say anything more that night. . . .

After Spicer spent several minutes hidden in the bushes behind these sets, Janet Montesi, an executive assistant in the press office, emerged and told reporters that Spicer would answer some questions, as long as he was not filmed doing so. Spicer then emerged.

“Just turn the lights off. Turn the lights off,” he ordered. “We'll take care of this. ... Can you just turn that light off?”

Spicer got his wish and was soon standing in near darkness between two tall hedges.
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[billvon 3,111]

>And Bill
>There is no "there" there.
>Even Flynn did nothing illegal.

On Dec 29th, before Trump was sworn in, he spoke with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak about US sanctions against Russia. That is illegal; it violates the Logan Act, a law that prohibits anyone other than the current president and his staff from negotiating with foreign officials. He then lied about the call to the people vetting him.

Now, I know you think that only democrats have to obey laws, and that republicans should be immune. Most people don't live in that sort of a fantasy world.

[Phil1111 1,173]

billvon

>So why the F**k does everyone blame poor Sean. He needs crib notes to keep up
>with all the lying. He is going to need a psychiatrist for the rest of his life.

It's gotten so bad that he is now literally hiding in the dark behind the bushes to avoid cameras and reporters.

No, that's not an exaggeration. From WaPo:

======================================
White House press secretary Sean Spicer wrapped up his brief interview with Fox Business from the White House grounds late Tuesday night and then disappeared into the shadows, huddling with his staff behind a tall hedge. To get back to his office, Spicer would have to pass a swarm of reporters wanting to know why President Trump suddenly decided to fire the FBI director.

For more than three hours, Spicer and his staff had been scrambling to answer that question. Spicer had wanted to drop the bombshell news in an emailed statement, but it was not transmitting quickly enough, so he ended up standing in the doorway of the press office around 5:40 p.m. and shouting a statement to reporters who happened to be nearby. He then vanished, with his staff locking the door leading to his office. The press staff said that Spicer might do a briefing, then announced that he definitely wouldn't say anything more that night. . . .

After Spicer spent several minutes hidden in the bushes behind these sets, Janet Montesi, an executive assistant in the press office, emerged and told reporters that Spicer would answer some questions, as long as he was not filmed doing so. Spicer then emerged.

“Just turn the lights off. Turn the lights off,” he ordered. “We'll take care of this. ... Can you just turn that light off?”

Spicer got his wish and was soon standing in near darkness between two tall hedges.
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and his boss:
There's a remarkably telling paragraph in Maggie Haberman and Glenn Thrush's tour de force in the New York Times documenting President Trump's first two weeks in office. Here it is:

Usually around 6:30 p.m., Mr. Trump retires upstairs to the residence to recharge, vent and intermittently use Twitter. With his wife, Melania, and young son, Barron, staying in New York, he is almost always by himself, sometimes in the protective presence of his imposing longtime aide and former security chief, Keith Schiller. When Mr. Trump is not watching television in his bathrobe or on his phone reaching out to old campaign hands and advisers, he will sometimes set off to explore the unfamiliar surroundings of his new home.

First of all, it's amazing reporting that allows HaberThrush to create such a vivid image. Second, it continues to shock me how willing administration officials are to leak information that makes the 45th president look not so good. And third, and most importantly, the image of Trump as an almost entirely solitary figure, riveted to a TV set and his phone, is a revealing and important window into the man and the life he now lives.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/02/06/the-exceptional-isolation-of-donald-trump/?utm_term=.b0a26a64ef30

Everybody is hiding or has something to hide.

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billvon

>And Bill
>There is no "there" there.
>Even Flynn did nothing illegal.

On Dec 29th, before Trump was sworn in, he spoke with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak about US sanctions against Russia. That is illegal; it violates the Logan Act, a law that prohibits anyone other than the current president and his staff from negotiating with foreign officials. He then lied about the call to the people vetting him.

Now, I know you think that only democrats have to obey laws, and that republicans should be immune. Most people don't live in that sort of a fantasy world.

Don't feed the trolls, Bill. You should know better.

[billvon 3,111]

This is becoming more like reality TV than a functioning government. Imagine the leader of the free world screaming at a TV screen then deciding to fire the person who is investigating him:
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Behind Comey’s firing: An enraged Trump, fuming about Russia

The president deliberated for more than a week before ousting the FBI chief who was investigating Trump associates.

By Josh Dawsey

05/10/17 12:02 AM EDT

President Donald Trump weighed firing his FBI director for more than a week. When he finally pulled the trigger Tuesday afternoon, he didn't call James Comey. He sent his longtime private security guard to deliver the termination letter in a manila folder to FBI headquarters.

He had grown enraged by the Russia investigation, two advisers said, frustrated by his inability to control the mushrooming narrative around Russia. He repeatedly asked aides why the Russia investigation wouldn’t disappear and demanded they speak out for him. He would sometimes scream at television clips about the probe, one adviser said.

Trump's firing of the high-profile FBI director on the 110th day since the president took office marked another sudden turn for an administration that has fired its acting attorney general, national security adviser and now its FBI director, whom Trump had praised until recent weeks and had even blew a kiss to during a January appearance.

The news stunned Comey, who saw news of his dismissal on TV while speaking inside the FBI office in Los Angeles. It startled all but the uppermost ring of White House advisers, who said grumbling about Comey hadn't dominated their own morning senior staff meetings. Other top officials learned just before it happened and were unaware Trump was considering firing Comey. "Nobody really knew," one senior White House official said. "Our phones all buzzed and people said, 'What?'"

By ousting the FBI director investigating his campaign and associates, Trump may have added more fuel to the fire he is furiously trying to contain — and he was quickly criticized by a chorus of Republicans and Democrats. "The timing of this firing was very troubling," said Sen. Ben Sasse, a Nebraska Republican.

Trump had grown angry with the Russia investigation — particularly Comey admitting in front of the Senate that the FBI was investigating his campaign — and that the FBI director wouldn't support his claims that President Barack Obama had tapped his phones in Trump Tower.
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billvon

>So why the F**k does everyone blame poor Sean.

Sorta his job description.

Sean has been given the rest of the week off apparently. They just found out he has "Navy Duty".

Have a feeling he might not be back...

[url]https://twitter.com/tarapalmeri/status/862288909593714688***

[normiss 892]

The hack chosen to replace him is infinitely worse IMO.
I don't think she can think on her feet as fast as Spicey, but she should be entertaining to see for awhile.
This has become worse than Nixon.

[billvon 3,111]

>Sean has been given the rest of the week off apparently. They just found out he has
>"Navy Duty".

In the "a picture is worth 1000 words" category we have the new press secretary:

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billvon

>And Bill
>There is no "there" there.
>Even Flynn did nothing illegal.

On Dec 29th, before Trump was sworn in, he spoke with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak about US sanctions against Russia. That is illegal; it violates the Logan Act, a law that prohibits anyone other than the current president and his staff from negotiating with foreign officials. He then lied about the call to the people vetting him.

Now, I know you think that only democrats have to obey laws, and that republicans should be immune. Most people don't live in that sort of a fantasy world.

Ah Bill
That was not a crime.

Stupid timing? Probably.

Bad choice? Yes.

Crime?

Nope. Not illegal.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

Now, if he took money?
that may be a different story !!!

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[billvon 3,111]

Now Trump is going to have to deal with his Sessions problem:

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Jeff Sessions Recuses Himself From Russia Inquiry

By MARK LANDLER and ERIC LICHTBLAU
MARCH 2, 2017

Sessions: ‘I Have Recused Myself’

WASHINGTON — Attorney General Jeff Sessions, facing a storm of criticism over newly disclosed contacts with the Russian ambassador to the United States, recused himself on Thursday from any investigation into charges that Russia meddled in the 2016 presidential election.

His announcement, delivered at a terse news conference, came after a day of rapid-fire developments in a murky affair that has shadowed President Trump, jeopardized his closest aides and intensified pressure for a full inquiry into Moscow’s attempts to influence the election as well as the policies of the new administration.

Many top Democrats demanded Mr. Sessions’s resignation, and a growing number of Republicans declared that he should not take part in any investigation into the case, given his own still largely unexplained role in it.

But Mr. Trump stoutly defended Mr. Sessions, one of his few early champions on Capitol Hill.
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James Comey Fired Letter: Read Why He Was Terminated

By Michele Gorman On 5/9/17 at 7:05 PM

The White House fired FBI Director James Comey on Tuesday, after President Donald Trump reportedly received recommendations from Attorney General Jeff Sessions and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein to remove the leader from his role.
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[billvon 3,111]

>Crime?
>Nope. Not illegal.

So violating the Logan Act, a US law, is not illegal? I'll write that down so I can remind you the next time you whine about some democrat violating a law.

[rushmc 23]

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/14/politics/michael-flynn-logan-act/

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

billvon

>Crime?
>Nope. Not illegal.

So violating the Logan Act, a US law, is not illegal? I'll write that down so I can remind you the next time you whine about some democrat violating a law.

He did not violate the Logan Act.

Sheesh......


And since when do you or any past Hillary supporters here care about the law?????

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[billvon 3,111]

>He did not violate the Logan Act.

He negotiated with Russia over US sanctions.

From Wikipedia:

The Logan Act (1 Stat. 613, 18 U.S.C. § 953, enacted January 30, 1799) is a United States federal law that details the fine and/or imprisonment of unauthorized citizens who negotiate with foreign governments having a dispute with the United States. It was intended to prevent the undermining of the government's position. The Act was passed following George Logan's unauthorized negotiations with France in 1798, and was signed into law by President John Adams on January 30, 1799. The Act was last amended in 1994, and violation of the Logan Act is a felony.

Looking forward to your next spin.

[normiss 892]

She is a non-stop lying sack of feces.

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billvon

>He did not violate the Logan Act.

He negotiated with Russia over US sanctions.

From Wikipedia:

The Logan Act (1 Stat. 613, 18 U.S.C. § 953, enacted January 30, 1799) is a United States federal law that details the fine and/or imprisonment of unauthorized citizens who negotiate with foreign governments having a dispute with the United States. It was intended to prevent the undermining of the government's position. The Act was passed following George Logan's unauthorized negotiations with France in 1798, and was signed into law by President John Adams on January 30, 1799. The Act was last amended in 1994, and violation of the Logan Act is a felony.

Looking forward to your next spin.

I do not have spin anything bill.

That law was not violated.

Even the CNN article I linked leans that same direction.

Get over it.

Trump won!

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

normiss

She is a non-stop lying sack of feces.

Susan Rice and Hilary are bigger liars by a long shot!

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln