The challenge for the grass roots left

[wmw999 2,587]

The left is no more discrete stovepiped groups, or a monolithic group, than the right is. You don't see "the right" disavowing people who casually use racially coded insults, or the militias, or the other abrasive edges (like, maybe, Mike Savage or Milos Yiannopoulos ). Some individuals may disavow the white parties like the Klan, but "the right" doesn't.

The people with energy start stuff. Often they're the angriest or the most marginalized. Which means angry feminists, racists, college students, and the people being whipped up at Trump rallies.

So probably no one is going to formally disavow them, because they might be useful later. Again, like racists, bigots, sexists, and WWF fans. It's more useful to model behavior you approve of than it is to decry that which you don't. Kind of like deciding that it's easier to change yourself than your spouse (trust me on that one -- I've been divorced once ).

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[jakee 1,594]

brenthutch

Yeah, just look at how Trump is going back on all of his campaign promises.

Hillary isn't going to prison, Mexico isn't paying for the wall, Muslims are not being banned, the swamp is not being drained (but filled with lobbyists, donors, party faithful and other cronies), and the secret plan to defeat ISIS never existed.

Though he is shooting people in Yemen and setting the scene for hobbling the EPA, so yay for that

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[Phil1111 1,176]

Help is needed.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38910648

[brenthutch 444]

Take a deep breath there Pajama Boy, I am not a Trump supporter, although I do mostly like his cabinet picks.

[normiss 892]

If you could ever have a conversation without name calling, attacking, and insulting, it might help with your efforts.
I seriously doubt it, but it's possible.

[billvon 3,111]

Your last warning.

[jakee 1,594]

brenthutch

Take a deep breath there Pajama Boy,

And when all other attempts at misderection and obfuscation fail, and when it becomes obvious even to you that you cannot provide any support for you assertions, we get this.

At least you're predictable Brent. At least you're predictable

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[Phil1111 1,176]

This is an example of pandering and stoking the fires of religious intolerance.
"Bill would prohibit state courts from applying Islamic law "

http://helenair.com/news/politics/state/bill-would-prohibit-state-courts-from-applying-islamic-law/article_e8e8765e-0949-55ed-941d-5dd785d13a05.html

"It was too much to hope that Montana’s legislators would refrain from introducing any irrelevant, hopelessly partisan, purely ideologically driven legislative proposals of the sort sometimes dismissively called “silly bills.”

From a bill to ban bicycles – along with pedestrians and wheelchairs – from all two-lane highways in the state to a bill prohibiting the use of food stamps to buy energy drinks, the Legislature is once again being forced to waste precious time and energy on utterly ridiculous and unnecessary measures.

But none take as much of the cake as Senate Bill 97, a proposal to stop foreign law from usurping our state courts. Not only is this bill trying to resolve a problem that doesn’t exist, it fosters a dangerous misunderstanding of the legal system in the United States, and is nothing more than thinly veiled bigotry toward people of the Islamic faith."
http://missoulian.com/news/opinion/editorial/missoulian-editorial-sharia-law-no-threat-to-montana/article_d913fce8-4f06-5184-9961-7535bcd3c5c2.html

Bill passed. There is not one single mosque in the entire state.

"The researchers found Illinois to be the most Muslim state with around 2.8 percent of the population identifying as Muslim adherents. The researchers found Montana to be the least Muslim state with only 0.034 percent identifying as Muslim adherents."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/27/most-and-least-muslim-states_n_1626144.html

Thankfully the residents of the great state of Montana don't all think this way.

"Gina Satterfield of Helena agreed. "We as a nation and state do not have to wait as a forced host to witness the growing population for this foreign law to implement its totalitarian system," she said, presumably reading from two Sarah Palin Facebook posts at once. Both these experts on Islamic culture testified before the committee in support of SB97, sponsored by Keith Regier (R-Kalispell).

Now that the Senate has approved his bill, Sen. Regier stands as Montana's chief defender against Sharia law. Or perhaps he's second only to the U.S. Constitution, the Montana Code, our state and federal judiciaries, an overwhelmingly Christian police force and centuries of jurisprudence. But when those safeguards fail—as they probably will once Polson gets a kebab restaurant—we'll be glad to have the senator and his forward-thinking bill.

But why stop there? Sharia law isn't the only foreign custom threatening to overrun Montana. Is Sen. Regier aware that in many parts of the world, millions of people eat with sticks? These potential immigrants, legal and illegal, would like nothing better than to come to Montana and usurp our American utensil system. I call on the senator from Kalispell to sponsor a bill prohibiting Montana courts from confiscating forks and knives before it's too late.

In the interest of saving lives, however, we should first pass a law forbidding the Department of Motor Vehicles from allowing British immigrants to drive on the left side of the road. Such an application of Cheerio Law would be disastrous. And let us not forget that the past is a foreign country, too. In the spirit of SB97, I demand we pass a law declaring that if Jefferson Davis and other leaders of the Confederacy should construct a time machine and travel to the present day, Montana will not allow them to re-institute slavery."

http://missoulanews.bigskypress.com/missoula/the-montana-senates-pre-emptive-sharia-strike/Content?oid=3382185