Toxic Brands For The Consumer

[Phil1111 1,183]

We Won, You Lost
So the election is over. The tax records were never disclosed. Ivanka was able to sit in on trumps first meetings with Japans Prime Minister. Standards of separating business interests with those of elected officials were never satisfied. How have Americans responded to the toxic trump brand? How does this forecast whats to come for the trump brand?

"Nordstrom drops Ivanka Trump clothing line, accessories

Nordstrom will no longer sell Ivanka Trump's clothing and accessories, the company announced Thursday.

The Seattle-based department store chain said the decision was based on the sales performance of the first daughter's brand, The Seattle Times reported.

The move comes amid a weekslong campaign known as "Grab Your Wallet," which has been calling for a boycott of retailers that carry Ivanka Trump or Donald Trump merchandise. In November, Nordstrom posted a response on Twitter to a shopper's letter calling for the company to stop selling the brand, saying, "We hope that offering a vendor's products isn't misunderstood as us taking a political position; we're not."

A Nordstrom spokesperson didn't say whether the decision to stop buying the brand was permanent, only that they make buying decisions each season. Nordstrom also said it offers thousands of brands and cuts about 10 percent each year based performance.

The Ivanka Trump brand was no longer listed on the company's website Thursday evening, and a search of her products on the site turned up just a few pairs of shoes, all of which had been marked down in price."
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/02/03/nordstrom-drops-ivanka-trump-clothing-line-accessories-amid-boycott.html

trump used the National Prayer Breakfast as a oppourtunity to repay Arnold Schwarzenegger.
" Arnold Schwarzenegger, the former California governor who is due to replace Donald Trump as the host of “Celebrity Apprentice,” said on Saturday that he cannot support the billionaire reality TV star's White House bid.

“For the first time since I became a citizen in 1983, I will not vote for the Republican candidate for president,” Schwarzenegger said in a statement posted to his Twitter account. "
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/arnold-schwarzenegger-donald-trump-229359

I'm surprised that CNN, FOX, ABC. took trumps statements as humor. It had nothing to do with humor and had everything to do with payback. Payback for Schwarzenegger's failure to support trump during the election.

How long till the next trump failure? Till President trump tweets about Nordstroms? Then has the usual trump apologists say its all about humor. That the left can't take a joke.

[Royreader8812 0]

Meanwhile the left are in meltdown mode and the last time the Democrats were this pissed off, was when president Lincoln took their slaves away.

And what was that saying that Winston Churchill said...

Something along the lines of,

"The fascists of the future will call themselves anti-facists"

Stores will be removing Trump products not to distance themselves from Trump, but to protect themselves from Soros' goons in balaclavas.

America is being torn apart by butthurt idiots and those in prominent positions acting as provocateurs, had better be careful.

It is obvious Trump is being provoked into a negative reaction.

The strategy to calm the situation is no doubt being concocted now, and idiots calling for violence will be made an example of. You just watch.

After it all calms down, I am sure Ivanka will enjoy reasonable sales and the regular stores will stock her products and or her Father's again.

I would imagine at least a couple of prominent figures inciting violence will be incarcerated to the extent of the law as an example.

Who will it be? Take your pick.it seems.

[billvon 3,118]

>I.would imagine at least a couple of prominent figures inciting violence will be
>incarcerated toas.The extent of the law as an example.

A good example of a prominent figure calling for political violence:

"Knock the crap out of them, would you? Seriously."

"You know, part of the problem and part of the reason it takes so long is nobody wants to hurt each other anymore, right?"

"The audience hit back. That's what we need a little bit more of."

"In the good old days this doesn't happen because they used to treat them very, very rough."

"If you do [hurt him] I'll defend you in court, don't worry about it."

"I'd like to punch him in the face."

How long do you think he will spend in jail?

[wmw999 2,588]

OK, sometimes you were saying things that bore thought. This post just identifies you has having either drunk the kool-aid, or just that you've been given new instructions to try to be more inflammatory.

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[Royreader8812 0]

Lol, So you think Trump is going to either sit back.and let this get worse or?

Inflammatory? You are trying to suggest the Democrats willfully released their slaves?

What was the inflammatory part?

Just trying to make sense out of the madness.

[Phil1111 1,183]

CHURCHILL ON THE LEFTWING:
The fascists of the future will call themselves anti-fascists.

Only problem with that is Winston Churchill almost certainly never said such a thing, and this quote has been misattributed to him for years, even with the Churchill Society (who know everything Churchill!) refuting the claim, responding to queries stating there is absolutely no evidence that he ever muttered those words.

Who actually said the quote is up for some contention, and it’s likely that the quote has been altered throughout the years, as is common with quotes said many years ago. It seems to be mishmash of quotes from Huey Long, a 1930s US politician, or Ignazio Silone, an Italian politician. And despite Britain First’s claim that this quote was specifically directed at left-wing politics, there is no evidence to support that claim. It is likely referring to the fact that people generally not regarded as fascists were increasingly utilising fascist strategies.
http://www.thatsnonsense.com/another-visit-to-britain-firsts-facebook-page/
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Talk:Huey_Long

[Royreader8812 0]

Bill, your Trump quotes serve to prove my assertions correct.

Do those sound like words of a man that will let this continue unnoticed.

I am not saying I think he should do anything, I am suggesting what I think he will do.

He will not be dragged into the trap they're making. He will use strategists to work out a way to calm the situation and shut the media up.

I think jailing a prominent figure for inciting violence would do the trick. There are plenty doing so.

These people are pussies, everyone feels empowered because they feel a majority with them. That is how people with no integrity work.

Chuck a couple of people in jail for inciting violence, throw the book at them. Most will shut up and Ivanka can sell her stuff again.

Easy.

Don't you think?

[Royreader8812 0]

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Only problem with that is Winston Churchill almost certainly never said such a thing,

Either way, it is the message of the quote that is relevant. Someone coined it.

[jakee 1,595]

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He will not be dragged into the trap they making,and will use strategists to.work out a way to calm the situation and shit the media up.

Dude's got a point. Calming the situation down is Trump's core skillset. He's got a very soothing manner. Lot's of people say so. He'd have been the best nurse. You need a situation calming down? You call Trump. Always been that way. Between that and his deal making skills the NYPD used to call him into hostage negotiations. True story, believe me.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[jakee 1,595]

Royreader8812

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Only problem with that is Winston Churchill almost certainly never said such a thing,

Either way, it is the message of the quote that is relevant.

For sure. Case in point, Trump claims he's giving power back to the people, and they believe him! Crazy right?

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[wmw999 2,588]

Dude, if you're a troll, this is way too insignificant a puddle to mess in -- and it's declining in readership.
If you're not, your grammar and constructions differ from post to post. You should probably either post only when you're drunk or when you're straight. Regardless, there are very few anonymous (or semi-anonymous) posters who command any respect whatsoever. A "hoo-yah" from the peanut gallery does't constitute respect.

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[Royreader8812 0]

Smartphones, fat thumbs and grammar are not that compatible, for me anyway.

Gimme a chance to do at least 2 of my usual 4 edits before you grill me on grammar.

I don't have a desktop and my laptop is broken. So tiny txt, tiny keyboard and fat thumbs is what in have to deal with.

I'll download swift key now to sort those damned full stops out.

You really think respect is my ambition?

[Phil1111 1,183]

wmw999

Dude, if you're a troll, this is way too insignificant a puddle to mess in -- and it's declining in readership.
If you're not, your grammar and constructions differ from post to post. You should probably either post only when you're drunk or when you're straight. Regardless, there are very few anonymous (or semi-anonymous) posters who command any respect whatsoever. A "hoo-yah" from the peanut gallery does't constitute respect.

Wendy P.

I noticed that and made a comment previously when two of his posts were coherent and reasonable. I actually agreed with one.

IMO, two posters using the same account. Or good Russian vodka.

[Royreader8812 0]

Lol, no just sometimes I have time to edit, and sometimes not.

Enough about me.

What do you guys think Trump will do?

Go full Reagan?

Let it slide?

[billvon 3,118]

>Do those sound like words of a man that will let this continue unnoticed.

Nope. They sound like the words of the man who started it in the first place.

>I think jailing a prominent figure for inciting violence would do the trick.

So would you support jailing Trump?

[Royreader8812 0]

You see, he is president now.

When I say knock that guy in the side of the head, to someone. That does not become a breach of law until perhaps that person does knock someone in the side of the head.

That is quite different to telling someone, or in this case, millions of people to overthrow the government or assassinate the president.

Neither is it the same as destroying public property (including, but not limited to, lamps ) and rioting causing damage to private property.

There will be action taken and what I want that to be, bares no reflection on what will happen.

We are all certainly interested. That includes the people removing Trump branded stock, out of fear of persecution.

[billvon 3,118]

>When I say knock that guy in the side of the head, to someone. That does not
>become a breach of law until perhaps that person does knock someone in the side
>of the head.

So Trump was not guilty of inciting until the violence actually started in his rallies. So since it has, how many years do you think he should get in jail?

[mistercwood 287]

Royreader8812

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Only problem with that is Winston Churchill almost certainly never said such a thing,

Either way, it is the message of the quote that is relevant. Someone coined it.

A related (and more relevant) quote:

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross."

You are playing chicken with a planet - you can't dodge and planets don't blink. Act accordingly.

[billvon 3,118]

>Either way, it is the message of the quote that is relevant. Someone coined it.

Right. But that sort of defeats the attempted argument from authority, doesn't it? I mean, Bin Laden could have coined it, in which case I suspect you wouldn't use it as support for your argument.

[JerryBaumchen 1,468]

Hi Phil,

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Nordstrom will no longer sell Ivanka Trump's clothing and accessories

The Nordstrom store in Washington Square Mall, in the greater Portland, OR area, is the largest of their stores & brings in the most money. I live fairly close to this store.

I doubt than any 'so-called boycott' would work; I rarely see a Joe Sixpak type in there, ever. And since Joe Sixpak is the primary type of Trump supporter, I'm going with it was a good business decision by Nordstrom.

Jerry Baumchen

[winsor 236]

billvon

>I.would imagine at least a couple of prominent figures inciting violence will be
>incarcerated toas.The extent of the law as an example.

A good example of a prominent figure calling for political violence:

"Knock the crap out of them, would you? Seriously."

"You know, part of the problem and part of the reason it takes so long is nobody wants to hurt each other anymore, right?"

"The audience hit back. That's what we need a little bit more of."

"In the good old days this doesn't happen because they used to treat them very, very rough."

"If you do [hurt him] I'll defend you in court, don't worry about it."

"I'd like to punch him in the face."

How long do you think he will spend in jail?

Four years in the Big White House.

Serves him right.

[ryoder 1,590]

Neiman Marcus Has Dropped Ivanka Trump Jewelry
http://www.racked.com/2017/2/3/14497280/ivanka-trump-neiman-marcus-boycott

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[Phil1111 1,183]

"Early Signs Suggest Trump’s Actions Are Taking a Toll on Trump Brand

Since the day Donald J. Trump began his presidential campaign, there were questions about how the Trump brand would be affected. Would his stream of insults hurt viewership of “The Apprentice” or sales of Ivanka Trump shoes? Or was all the attention good for business, a marketing adage President Trump could have learned during his time as a reality television star.

The answer may surprise him.

Major companies appear to be re-evaluating their relationships with the Trump brand, which, in some instances, does not appear to have benefited from Mr. Trump’s presidency. Hinting at lackluster sales, Neiman Marcus confirmed on Friday that it had dropped Ivanka Trump’s jewelry line from its website. A day earlier, her brand had disappeared from Nordstrom.com, a move reported by the fashion news site Racked.

Not everyone was happy that retailers were distancing themselves from the Trump name. By Saturday, some Twitter users were posting #BoycottNordstrom.

Companies also seem worried about how protests over the president’s actions, particularly his recent executive order on immigration, could hurt sales.

On Friday, MillerCoors, a brewing company, contacted Shannon Coulter, a founder of GrabYourWallet.org, a campaign pushing for boycotts of Neiman Marcus, Nordstrom and other businesses associated with the Trump name.

“He wanted to talk about why they were on the list,” she said, adding, “I think all the companies are paying close attention.”

At a time when protests and boycotts can easily be organized online, brands face more pressure to respond to consumer demands.

Chris Allieri, a marketing consultant with Mulberry & Astor, said, “Before he became president, I think that a lot of consumers were indifferent to the Trump brand.” He added, “It’s going to be harder for people to ignore the connection.”

The MillerCoors name appeared on GrabYourWallet.org after Peter Coors, a board member of its parent company, Molson Coors, lent his name to a fund-raiser for Mr. Trump in June. MillerCoors said it did not support candidates in presidential races but respected the rights of its workers to do so.

“Boycotting our brands only harms hard-working employees and their families and is counter to the positive progress that we should all be encouraging and delivering at a time when our nation seems so divided,” Marty Maloney, a spokesman, said.

Mr. Trump and his daughter have stepped away from executive roles at the Trump Organization, which still earns money from golf courses, hotels and other properties around the world. (Ms. Trump has also stepped away as head of her brand.) Because Mr. Trump’s company is privately held, it is hard to know what impact his presidency has had on his businesses. But the merchandise side of the Trump licensing empire may be more vulnerable to negative attention.

“Retailers around the country are going to say, do we need the aggravation or not,” said Wendy Liebmann, chief executive at WSL Strategic Retail, a consulting firm. “It’s hard to imagine that if a brand is really, really doing well, a retailer like a Nordstrom or Neiman Marcus would cut off their nose to spite their face.”

Rosemary K. Young, senior director of marketing for Ms. Trump’s brand, said in a statement that the company keep expanding and that it had “significant” year-over-year revenue growth in 2016.

Representatives for Macy’s, which sells Ms. Trump’s clothing, handbags and shoes, did not respond to requests for comment. The retailer dropped Mr. Trump’s clothing line early in his campaign after he called Mexican immigrants “killers” and “rapists.”

Companies have also faced pressure to back away from “The Apprentice” franchise, of which Mr. Trump is an executive producer. Kawasaki said last month that it would pull its sponsorship, though the Japanese company seemed to backtrack somewhat within hours.

Ms. Coulter said the Honest Company, whose products will appear in an episode of “The New Celebrity Apprentice,” had committed not to advertise for the rest of the season or next year. The brand confirmed that it had limited involvement with the show, which has not yet been renewed for 2018.

In addition to possibly repelling some advertisers, Mr. Trump’s association with the show does not appear to have helped viewership much. On Thursday, he asked people — perhaps jokingly — to pray for the company’s ratings at the National Prayer Breakfast in Washington.

Mr. Allieri, who backed Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign, said, “If you’re looking for a good opportunity to advertise, I would look beyond ‘The Apprentice,’ because there’s not going to be an upside.”

As the Trump name became politicized so have brands associated with it. Just days after #DeleteUber began trending on Twitter — a response to criticism that the ride-sharing app had undercut protests of Mr. Trump’s immigration order — Uber’s chief executive, Travis Kalanick, resigned from a presidential economic advisory council.

Nordstrom, which mainly sold Ivanka Trump shoes, said demand for Ms. Trump’s products had not been strong. The company still has some merchandise from previous orders that it plans to sell in stores. For the time being, the relationship appears to have ended.

Neiman Marcus said it “continuously” assesses productivity to determine where its products are sold. Some jewelry will still be available in the stores.

After apparel, Ms. Trump’s shoes account for the largest portion of her company’s revenue. Three years ago, the brand predicted that shoe sales would reach $35 million last year at wholesale, generating $2 million in royalty fees, according to documents obtained by The New York Times. Jewelry was predicted to reach $7.5 million, or $300,000 in fees.

At the time, Ms. Trump seemed to be having more trouble with Mondani, which makes her handbags.

“We think the handbags are terrible,” the documents said. “They don’t.”

A spokesman for Ms. Trump’s brand said, “We are fortunate to have dedicated and engaged partners on our handbags and all of our product categories.”

Representatives for Mondani did not respond to requests for comment."
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/04/business/the-trump-brand.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0

Further stories from the fashion industry site quoted above.
http://www.racked.com/2017/2/3/14488976/fashion-beauty-react-trump-immigration-ban