billvon 3,132 #1 January 19, 2017 That's right! It ended in 1998 2005 2010 2014 2015 2016! Take that, warmists! ================ 2016 warmest year on record globally, NASA and NOAA data show Third record-breaking year in a row for average surface temperatures Science Daily Date: January 18, 2017 Earth's 2016 surface temperatures were the warmest since modern recordkeeping began in 1880, according to independent analyses by NASA and NOAA. This makes 2016 the third year in a row to set a new record for global average surface temperatures. . . . Globally-averaged temperatures in 2016 were 1.78 degrees Fahrenheit (0.99 degrees Celsius) warmer than the mid-20th century mean. This makes 2016 the third year in a row to set a new record for global average surface temperatures. The 2016 temperatures continue a long-term warming trend, according to analyses by scientists at NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) in New York. NOAA scientists concur with the finding that 2016 was the warmest year on record based on separate, independent analyses of the data. ================ This will be an especially good year for deniers. Since 2017 will be a La Nina year in the ENSO cycle, it's almost certainly going to be a bit cooler than 2016. So they will have a year or two to proclaim that global warming ended in 2016, and why isn't the biased liberal science establishment reporting on the "pause?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,182 #2 January 19, 2017 What nonsense - it's cold in Chicago today. Warming schwarming!... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #3 January 19, 2017 billvon That's right! It ended in 1998 2005 2010 2014 2015 2016! Take that, warmists! This will be an especially good year for deniers. Since 2017 will be a La Nina year in the ENSO cycle, it's almost certainly going to be a bit cooler than 2016. So they will have a year or two to proclaim that global warming ended in 2016, and why isn't the biased liberal science establishment reporting on the "pause?" Too funny2016 "hottest year ever" is due to AGW, but when 2017 doesn't follow suit it is because of the end of El Niño. Can you not see the fault in your reasoning? Temperatures go up: man made global warming Temperatures go down: natural variability Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 334 #4 January 19, 2017 brenthutch Too funny2015 2016 "hottest year ever" is due to AGW, but when 2016 2017 doesn't follow suit it is because of the end of El Niño. FIFY. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #5 January 19, 2017 You do realize the earth has been around a bit longer than 1880, don't you?Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 906 #6 January 19, 2017 It's expected to hit 82 here today. Winter schminter! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #7 January 19, 2017 Quoteyou not see the fault in your reasoning? You mean the fault in the reasoning that you predict he will use in a year? - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #8 January 19, 2017 >2016 "hottest year ever" is due to AGW No. That was due primarily to El Nino. The warming TREND since 1850 is due to AGW. That's why we keep seeing records being broken - not why any specific year is X degrees warmer than any other. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #9 January 19, 2017 "Dr. David Whitehouse noted the 'temperature pause never went away': 'According to NOAA 2016 was 0.07°F warmer than 2015, which is 0.04°C. Considering the error in the annual temperature is +/- 0.1°C this makes 2016 statistically indistinguishable from 2015, making any claim of a record using NOAA data specious.'" "MIT climate scientist Dr. Richard Lindzen on 'hottest year' claims: 'To imply that a rise of temperature of a tenth of a degree is proof that the world is coming to an end -- has to take one back to the dark ages.' 'As long as you can get people excited as to whether it's a tenth of a degree warmer or cooler, then you don't have to think, you can assume everyone who is listening to you is an idiot.' 'The whole point is so crazy because the temperature is always going up or down a little. What is astonishing is that in the last 20 years it hasn't done much of anything.' 'What they don't mention is there has been a big El Nino in 2016 and in recent months the temperature has been dropping back into a zero trend level.' 'It gives you something to believe in. It’s a religion.'" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #10 January 19, 2017 https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/01/19/noaa-data-demonstrates-that-2016-was-not-the-hottest-year-ever-in-the-usa/ https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/01/19/2016-global-temperature-the-pause-never-went-away/ A couple of less political view points on the subject."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #11 January 19, 2017 >'According to NOAA 2016 was 0.07°F warmer than 2015, which is 0.04°C." Incorrect. 2015 was 1.62F warmer than average. But never fear. When 2017 is measured as ~0.07F cooler than 2016, you will suddenly find that you have a lot of faith in those measurements, and use those numbers to claim (nay, prove!) that there is another "pause." >'To imply that a rise of temperature of a tenth of a degree is proof that the world is >coming to an end -- has to take one back to the dark ages.' No one cares about at tenth of a degree. They DO care about 1.69 degrees. Nor are any scientists claiming that the world is coming to an end. That is yet another denier strawman. >What they don't mention is there has been a big El Nino in 2016 Yeah, I really wish those warmists would admit that! From the article: =============== A warming El Niño event was in effect for most of 2015 and the first third of 2016. Researchers estimate the direct impact of the natural El Niño warming in the tropical Pacific increased the annual global temperature anomaly for 2016 by 0.2 degrees Fahrenheit (0.12 degrees Celsius). =============== >and in recent months the temperature has been dropping back into a zero trend >level.' I have a feeling that in a few months - say, March - the temperature will start on an upward trend again around US deniers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #12 January 19, 2017 billvon Nor are any scientists claiming that the world is coming to an end. That is yet another denier strawman. Are you sure about that? I am pretty sure some climate "scientists" are telling us that we must "save the planet." Here is a taste, "If Canada proceeds, and we do nothing, it will be game over for the climate. Canada’s tar sands, deposits of sand saturated with bitumen, contain twice the amount of carbon dioxide emitted by global oil use in our entire history. If we were to fully exploit this new oil source, and continue to burn our conventional oil, gas and coal supplies, concentrations of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere eventually would reach levels higher than in the Pliocene era, more than 2.5 million years ago, when sea level was at least 50 feet higher than it is now. That level of heat-trapping gases would assure that the disintegration of the ice sheets would accelerate out of control. Sea levels would rise and destroy coastal cities. Global temperatures would become intolerable. Twenty to 50 percent of the planet’s species would be driven to extinction. Civilization would be at risk." James Hansen, climate scientist That is not the "deniers" strawman, it's the "deniers" point. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #13 January 19, 2017 Oh goody! Science by feeling."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,182 #14 January 19, 2017 rushmchttps://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/01/19/noaa-data-demonstrates-that-2016-was-not-the-hottest-year-ever-in-the-usa/ https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/01/19/2016-global-temperature-the-pause-never-went-away/ A couple of less political view points on the subject. You forgot to post links to the "less political view points". You only posted the biased rubbish on wattsup.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,182 #15 January 19, 2017 rushmcOh goody! Science by feeling. Have you got that tingly leg again?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #16 January 19, 2017 kallend What nonsense - it's cold in Chicago today. Warming schwarming! Not sure about Chicago, but its 40 or so in Wisconsin (near Green Bay). Its been above freezing since Tuesday and is predicted to stay that way all week. In January. When the average high temp is 24. The "January thaw" is a known thing, but it seems to be happening a lot more often of late. Every year, instead of every few years. And the last few years have had more than one."There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,182 #17 January 20, 2017 wolfriverjoe*** What nonsense - it's cold in Chicago today. Warming schwarming! Not sure about Chicago, but its 40 or so in Wisconsin (near Green Bay). Its been above freezing since Tuesday and is predicted to stay that way all week. In January. When the average high temp is 24. The "January thaw" is a known thing, but it seems to be happening a lot more often of late. Every year, instead of every few years. And the last few years have had more than one. Yes, but just 6 months ago it was in the 80s.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #18 January 24, 2017 >https://wattsupwiththat.com >https://wattsupwiththat.com >A couple of less political view points on the subject. Sadly, I don't even think you see any irony in what you just posted. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #19 January 24, 2017 billvon >https://wattsupwiththat.com >https://wattsupwiththat.com >A couple of less political view points on the subject. Sadly, I don't even think you see any irony in what you just posted. Try this one: https://wottsupwiththat.com/"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #20 January 24, 2017 billvon >https://wattsupwiththat.com >https://wattsupwiththat.com >A couple of less political view points on the subject. Sadly, I don't even think you see any irony in what you just posted. What a retort"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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