The cost of repeal

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The human and dollar cost of repealing the ACA without an adequate replacement:

www.cbo.gov/publication/52371

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Before the righties whine that this isn't the GOP plan..... the plan the CBO analyzed was exactly the bill the GOP controlled House and Senate passed in 2016, and which would have become law had it not been vetoed by the President.

Governing is indeed harder than knee-jerk opposition.

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Before the righties whine that this isn't the GOP plan..... the plan the CBO analyzed was exactly the bill the GOP controlled House and Senate passed in 2016, and which would have become law had it not been vetoed by the President.

That's totally unfair! They should be taken seriously, not literally.

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kallend

Before the righties whine that this isn't the GOP plan..... the plan the CBO analyzed was exactly the bill the GOP controlled House and Senate passed in 2016, and which would have become law had it not been vetoed by the President.

Governing is indeed harder than knee-jerk opposition.

This same CBO was wrong about Obamacare.

Regardless. Whatever we end up with will be better than what we have.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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rushmc

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Before the righties whine that this isn't the GOP plan..... the plan the CBO analyzed was exactly the bill the GOP controlled House and Senate passed in 2016, and which would have become law had it not been vetoed by the President.

Governing is indeed harder than knee-jerk opposition.

This same CBO was wrong about Obamacare.

Regardless. Whatever we end up with will be better than what we have.

The predictable knee-jerk.

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rushmc

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Before the righties whine that this isn't the GOP plan..... the plan the CBO analyzed was exactly the bill the GOP controlled House and Senate passed in 2016, and which would have become law had it not been vetoed by the President.

Governing is indeed harder than knee-jerk opposition.

This same CBO was wrong about Obamacare.

Regardless. Whatever we end up with will be better than what we have.

Please define 'better'.

Because I suspect you mean 'better for me'.

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yoink

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Before the righties whine that this isn't the GOP plan..... the plan the CBO analyzed was exactly the bill the GOP controlled House and Senate passed in 2016, and which would have become law had it not been vetoed by the President.

Governing is indeed harder than knee-jerk opposition.

This same CBO was wrong about Obamacare.

Regardless. Whatever we end up with will be better than what we have.

Please define 'better'.

Because I suspect you mean 'better for me'.

The meaning of "better" is simple. It means anything passed by Rs and not Ds.

Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

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gowlerk

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Before the righties whine that this isn't the GOP plan..... the plan the CBO analyzed was exactly the bill the GOP controlled House and Senate passed in 2016, and which would have become law had it not been vetoed by the President.

Governing is indeed harder than knee-jerk opposition.

This same CBO was wrong about Obamacare.

Regardless. Whatever we end up with will be better than what we have.

Please define 'better'.

Because I suspect you mean 'better for me'.

The meaning of "better" is simple. It means anything passed by Rs and not Ds.

The solution is so obvious:
Take the text of the ACA and globally replace every instance of "Affordable Care Act" with "GOP/Trump Care Act". Then simultaneously repeal ACA and enact G/T-CA, and everyone will be happy.

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

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yoink

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Before the righties whine that this isn't the GOP plan..... the plan the CBO analyzed was exactly the bill the GOP controlled House and Senate passed in 2016, and which would have become law had it not been vetoed by the President.

Governing is indeed harder than knee-jerk opposition.

This same CBO was wrong about Obamacare.

Regardless. Whatever we end up with will be better than what we have.

Please define 'better'.

Because I suspect you mean 'better for me'.

"Better" means whatever his favorite right wing fake news site tells him.

And the CBO's projections were only inaccurate in the minds of those same sites (Source: www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/issue-briefs/2015/dec/cbo-crystal-ball-forecast-aca)

It's also fascinating that the GOP tried to muzzle the CBO's report on the cost of repeal of the ACA. From Ryan's new rules proposal:

“The Director of the Congressional Budget Office shall, to the extent practicable, prepare an estimate of whether a bill or joint resolution reported by a committee (other than the Committee on Appropriations), or amendment thereto or conference report thereon, would cause, relative to current law, a net increase in direct spending in excess of $5,000,000,000 in any of the 4 consecutive 10 fiscal year periods beginning with the first fiscal year that is 10 fiscal years after the current fiscal year.”

“This subsection shall not apply to any bill or joint resolution, or amendment thereto or conference report thereon—

(A) repealing the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act and title I and subtitle B of title II of the Health Care and Education Affordability Reconciliation Act of 2010;

(B) reforming the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act and the Health Care and Education Affordability Reconciliation Act of 2010.”

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If they repeal it I want a refund from the IRS for the fines . Yeah like that's gonna happen

i have on occasion been accused of pulling low . My response. Naw I wasn't low I'm just such a big guy I look closer than I really am .

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kallend

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Before the righties whine that this isn't the GOP plan..... the plan the CBO analyzed was exactly the bill the GOP controlled House and Senate passed in 2016, and which would have become law had it not been vetoed by the President.

Governing is indeed harder than knee-jerk opposition.

This same CBO was wrong about Obamacare.

Regardless. Whatever we end up with will be better than what we have.

The predictable knee-jerk.

Knee jerk is creating a problem so you can offer a solution. That is what Obamacare is.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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yoink

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Before the righties whine that this isn't the GOP plan..... the plan the CBO analyzed was exactly the bill the GOP controlled House and Senate passed in 2016, and which would have become law had it not been vetoed by the President.

Governing is indeed harder than knee-jerk opposition.

This same CBO was wrong about Obamacare.

Regardless. Whatever we end up with will be better than what we have.

Please define 'better'.

Because I suspect you mean 'better for me'.

First off it does not affect me either way, yet.

Better is, more affordable portable policies. Those with pre-existing conditions will be part of much larger groups and will get insurance.
You can keep your Dr.

Removing coverage mandates which will allow people to pick the level of coverage they want and or need.

Just the first ones that come to mind.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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The CBO was wrong about the ACA.

What makes you think it is correct this time?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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rushmc

The CBO was wrong about the ACA.

What makes you think it is correct this time?

From what I see it was reasonably accurate, which is quite a feat considering all the variables.

Why do you say it was wrong? How close should the forecast have been for you to call it right? What margin of error would have been acceptable for you?

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rushmc

The CBO was wrong about the ACA.

What makes you think it is correct this time?

I have already provided a link to an independent analysis that disproves your claim.

You have provided not one shred of evidence to back your claim.

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Does he ever?

[kallend 2,182]

Why do you think Speaker Ryan tried to gag the CBO so it couldn't provide a cost analysis of repealing the ACA, while directing it to provide analysis of all other legislation with significant budgetary impact?

docs.house.gov/billsthisweek/20170102/BILLS-115hres5-PIH-FINAL.pdf

What is he trying to hide?

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kallend

***The CBO was wrong about the ACA.

What makes you think it is correct this time?

I have already provided a link to an independent analysis that disproves your claim.

You have provided not one shred of evidence to back your claim.

You realize your link only has data through 2014 correct?

the major hits for the ACA started after that.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln