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[gowlerk 2,275]

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PolitiFact Is a joke.

That's because facts are a joke to you.

Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

[grimmie 186]

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/rush-limbaugh/

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rushmc

************Rush Limbaugh stated...

Top fake news source claims others create fake news.


Please
Give us an example that backs your assertion.

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/rush-limbaugh/

Anyone who says they listen to Rush Limbaugh is self-identifying to me as mouthbreathing moron, and pretty much ends the conversation for me.


PolitiFact Is a joke. And you've never listened to Rush Limbaugh. Got it

Politifact's a fine site. And I've heard Rush. He insults my intelligence, as do all right wing radio hosts. I'm just not dumb enough to be a conservative I guess.

[kallend 2,148]

rushmc

************Rush Limbaugh stated...

Top fake news source claims others create fake news.


Please
Give us an example that backs your assertion.

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/rush-limbaugh/

Anyone who says they listen to Rush Limbaugh is self-identifying to me as mouthbreathing moron, and pretty much ends the conversation for me.


PolitiFact Is a joke. And you've never listened to Rush Limbaugh. Got it

So you are a better arbiter of true and false. OK...

TRUE or a LIE? What do you think?

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[wmw999 2,588]

I've listened to some. Most of them string stuff together to support their predetermined point, rather than looking at what's out there and then making a decision. Dave Ramsey (who is primarily finances) is a genius. Mike Savage, on the other hand, is an asshole.

Just because you string facts together doesn't mean you have a truthful picture. If you want to support a point, fine -- just identify the point and then use stuff to support it. Don't pretend that the only facts that matter or exist are the ones you chose. Rush L hasn't figured that out, or he's not intellectually honest enough to admit it. Probably the second

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

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wmw999

I've listened to some. Most of them string stuff together to support their predetermined point, rather than looking at what's out there and then making a decision. Dave Ramsey (who is primarily finances) is a genius. Mike Savage, on the other hand, is an asshole.

Just because you string facts together doesn't mean you have a truthful picture. If you want to support a point, fine -- just identify the point and then use stuff to support it. Don't pretend that the only facts that matter or exist are the ones you chose. Rush L hasn't figured that out, or he's not intellectually honest enough to admit it. Probably the second

Wendy P.

Ramsay isn't terrible, although I'm not a fan of his religious tinge. I worked in that industry for many years before getting a golden handshake to leave, and while some of his information and advice is decent, some of it is cringeworthy - especially when I hear him telling people to use a 12% rate of return to plan their retirement savings. That's a number that isn't realistic for planning generally, definitely isn't for most people. And he pushes a lot of junk product. That said, his approach to getting out of debt makes sense, certainly.

Most of the rest of them I listen to for a form of comic relief now and then, mainly because I wish I was devoid of a conscience and the ethics that render me unable to become some kind of right wing or evangelical carnival barker, out fleecing marks.

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

wmw999

... Don't pretend that the only facts that matter or exist are the ones you chose. Rush L hasn't figured that out, or he's not intellectually honest enough to admit it. Probably the second

Wendy P.

I don't know how intellectually honest Limbaugh is or isn't.

But that's not the point. It's his listeners who simply want to hear what he tells them. They don't care about opposing views or even the truth.
They simply want their views and opinions reinforced.

"There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy

"~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo

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wolfriverjoe

***... Don't pretend that the only facts that matter or exist are the ones you chose. Rush L hasn't figured that out, or he's not intellectually honest enough to admit it. Probably the second

Wendy P.

I don't know how intellectually honest Limbaugh is or isn't.

But that's not the point. It's his listeners who simply want to hear what he tells them. They don't care about opposing views or even the truth.
They simply want their views and opinions reinforced.

That's why it's called an echo chamber. Part of the problem I've noticed with trying to engage in any sort of productive discussion with folks who listen to that kind of stuff is that they only seem to understand the world in terms of absurd reductionism and strawman arguments. And that's what talk radio caters to.

For better or worse, far more liberal-minded people seem to a) not all only believe the same things and b) be able to engage in more productive discussion and be more open to different ideas and able to talk them out. I have no doubt there are lots of conservatives who operate that way, they're just totally drowned out by the kind of folk who listen to Hannity, Limbaugh, BillO, and other morons.

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gowlerk

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PolitiFact Is a joke.

That's because facts are a joke to you.

Politifact does not do facts

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

Lawndarter

***************Rush Limbaugh stated...

Top fake news source claims others create fake news.


Please
Give us an example that backs your assertion.

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/rush-limbaugh/

Anyone who says they listen to Rush Limbaugh is self-identifying to me as mouthbreathing moron, and pretty much ends the conversation for me.


PolitiFact Is a joke. And you've never listened to Rush Limbaugh. Got it

Politifact's a fine site. And I've heard Rush. He insults my intelligence, as do all right wing radio hosts. I'm just not dumb enough to be a conservative I guess.

It used to be. Not anymore.

And it is a guarantee that you are no where near as smart as you think yourself to be.

And niether you or Wendy have listened to Rush.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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rushmc

******************Rush Limbaugh stated...

Top fake news source claims others create fake news.


Please
Give us an example that backs your assertion.

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/rush-limbaugh/

Anyone who says they listen to Rush Limbaugh is self-identifying to me as mouthbreathing moron, and pretty much ends the conversation for me.


PolitiFact Is a joke. And you've never listened to Rush Limbaugh. Got it

Politifact's a fine site. And I've heard Rush. He insults my intelligence, as do all right wing radio hosts. I'm just not dumb enough to be a conservative I guess.

It used to be. Not anymore.

And it is a guarantee that you are no where near as smart as you think yourself to be.

And niether you or Wendy have listened to Rush.

I wait with baited breath to see you justify your comment about Politifact. Good luck. And as I said, my exposure to Rush made clear it was utter nonsense. It's clearly an act for morons.

[wmw999 2,588]

I have, for about thirty minutes maybe. Not for ten years or more (he's been on for over twenty), but I have. The fact that I didn't like him doesn't mean I didn't listen. I also didn't like liberal firebrand Ed Schultz. I don't like to listen to radio shows that try to lead me to their conclusions. I'd rather listen to ones that present data and let me come to my own opinion.

Yes, my opinion is more liberal. But definitely not as liberal as you probably think.

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[rushmc 23]

Too many other people, not me, have showed how biased PolitiFact Is. I don't have to do anything. And you have proven yet again you don't have a clue about Rush Limbaugh. But that's no different than most of the other liberals on this site.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[jakee 1,595]

rushmc

Too many other people, not me, have showed how biased PolitiFact Is.

Like who?

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[kallend 2,148]

rushmc

Too many other people, not me, have showed how biased PolitiFact Is..

Truth has a bias, and it's against people like you.

Politifact thoroughly documents its findings, using original sources.

So does Snopes, and Factcheck.

It's no surprise that these sites are unpopular with the right.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

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rushmc

Too many other people, not me, have showed how biased PolitiFact Is. I don't have to do anything. And you have proven yet again you don't have a clue about Rush Limbaugh. But that's no different than most of the other liberals on this site.

The key question is, has anyone credible done so? The thing about fact checkers broadly is that they work by doing the research and presenting their findings. The overwhelming majority of cases they fact check are pretty simple claims, and the work isn't too complicated. Do some research, prove the claim right, or wrong, or discuss the shades of grey.

The right has attacked all sorts of fact checking organizations for the simple reason that it is to them an enormous inconvenience when they can't have someone like Rush or BillO or whoever spew nonsense, and their base believe it without questioning.

My favourite example is Snopes, which isn't even mostly political, but it's so efficient in debunking stuff that eventually the right had to attack it as a source. They failed, comically.

I have "a clue" about Rush. He's a carnival barker. Intelligent people don't listen to blowhards, who as Wendy so perfectly said, lead them to a conclusion. We tend to take more interest in engaging in discussions to thrash out the truth. That's why talk radio doesn't tend to work for liberals, we're too interested in facts and discourse. It's also the same reason the "fake news" phenomenon doesn't affect liberals nearly as much - we ask enough questions that fake news falls apart pretty quickly.

[ryoder 1,590]

Lawndarter

That's why talk radio doesn't tend to work for liberals, we're too interested in facts and discourse. It's also the same reason the "fake news" phenomenon doesn't affect liberals nearly as much - we ask enough questions that fake news falls apart pretty quickly.

There is another reason: https://www.google.com/search?q=conservative+liberal+fear

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[rushmc 23]

Lawndarter

I have "a clue" about Rush. He's a carnival barker. Intelligent people don't listen to blowhards, who as Wendy so perfectly said, lead them to a conclusion. We tend to take more interest in engaging in discussions to thrash out the truth. That's why talk radio doesn't tend to work for liberals, we're too interested in facts and discourse. It's also the same reason the "fake news" phenomenon doesn't affect liberals nearly as much - we ask enough questions that fake news falls apart pretty quickly.

Funniest post of the year so far

BTW
Liberals are the ones getting caught making fake news

Your post is fake news

But then, the radical hardcore libs usually wonder how anyone can disagree with them.

As evidenced by your post here.

Oh

And talk radio does not work for libs because it exposes the failures of the left.

And no one likes to listen about failures

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

More proof from your own page

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Entitled Public Servant

Priceless!

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[RonD1120 62]

kallend

***Too many other people, not me, have showed how biased PolitiFact Is..

Truth has a bias, and it's against people like you.

Politifact thoroughly documents its findings, using original sources.

So does Snopes, and Factcheck.

It's no surprise that these sites are unpopular with the right.

You got to be kidding, right?

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[normiss 895]

You do realize they have received a Pulitzer Prize for the accuracy?
Also of note, given the alt right dislikes factual data, they have devoted the verification to both the left and the right pretty much right down the middle.

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normiss

You do realize they have received a Pulitzer Prize for the accuracy?

Right, and Obama was given the Nobel Peace Prize. He is the only president to have been at war every day for his full eight years.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[normiss 895]

Which has fuck all to do with the current discussion.
Jebus balls man, stay on point.

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rushmc

BTW
Liberals are the ones getting caught making fake news

Like what?

rushmc

And talk radio does not work for libs because it exposes the failures of the left.

And no one likes to listen about failures

I can't even parse this into anything intelligent.

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rushmc

More proof from your own page

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Entitled Public Servant

Priceless!

I'm an army officer. I just have a sense of humour.