kallend 2,117 #26 January 10, 2017 DJLI'm just waiting for him to announce construction of a line of Casinos all the way across the border that you can only access from the Mexican side. That way Mexican pay for it by gambling in the casinos. See, I'd be a better President than Trump. The losers like us who pay taxes will pay for it. Smart people like Trump won't.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 348 #27 January 10, 2017 "We make money the old fashioned way...fat government contracts and massive cost overruns!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 284 #28 January 10, 2017 DJLI'm just waiting for him to announce construction of a line of Casinos all the way across the border that you can only access from the Mexican side. That way Mexicans pay for it by gambling in the casinos. See, I'd be a better President than Trump. Nah - trump failed at making money from casinos so he won't do that.Never try to eat more than you can lift Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #29 January 10, 2017 General question - If I can't afford to pay the extra tax for the wall effort....can I get a subsidy to help me pay my share? ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,090 #30 January 10, 2017 >If I can't afford to pay the extra tax for the wall effort....can I get a subsidy to help me pay my share? Nope. Only dumb people pay taxes, and no subsidies for dumb people, sorry. Unless you have a Trump in your family somewhere - then you get the subsidy. And usually a job too. How does "commissioner of negative tax border reparations" grab you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #31 January 10, 2017 billvonHow does "commissioner of negative tax border reparations" grab you? Too erudite for the 45th administration. Would probably go something like, "Bigly Guy Paying Back People to Make America Great Again."quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeorgiaDon 379 #32 January 10, 2017 wolfriverjoeTo answer your actual question: Nobody. That wall will never be built. It's a logistical and ecological impossibility. There has never been a real chance that it would ever be built. Anyone with any real understanding of the border (both geographically and politically) knew this. It was simply a sound bite for Trump to attract the "anti-immigrant" crowd. Or at least the "stupid anti-immigrant" crowd.Maybe he'll find somebody who thinks the wall is a really bad idea to put in charge of building the wall. That would fit the pattern of all his other appointments. Don_____________________________________ Tolerance is the cost we must pay for our adventure in liberty. (Dworkin, 1996) “Education is not filling a bucket, but lighting a fire.” (Yeats) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #33 January 10, 2017 http://us-foreign-aid.insidegov.com/q/112/1590/How-much-money-does-the-U-S-give-to-Mexico According to this site we gave Mexico $209 million in foreign aid in 2012. I'm thinking that will pay for part of it.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,090 #34 January 10, 2017 >According to this site we gave Mexico $209 million in foreign aid in 2012. I'm thinking that will pay for part of it. Sure, let's cut all the antiterrorism work we are doing there. (Maybe in Canada too!) No way that could bite us in the ass. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #35 January 10, 2017 billvon>According to this site we gave Mexico $209 million in foreign aid in 2012. I'm thinking that will pay for part of it. Sure, let's cut all the antiterrorism work we are doing there. (Maybe in Canada too!) No way that could bite us in the ass. We'll have a wall.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,090 #36 January 11, 2017 >We'll have a wall. I'll bet you $1000 (payable to your favorite charity) that we won't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #37 January 11, 2017 billvon>We'll have a wall. I'll bet you $1000 (payable to your favorite charity) that we won't. I'd take that bet but I already owe Popeye for some hamburgers.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 871 #38 January 11, 2017 Who pays bills? This is post truth Amerikkka, you pay what you want, then you stiff them for the rest. Hit them back twice as hard with a lawsuit. Fuck them. Only losers pay for stuff with their own money. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,117 #39 January 11, 2017 airdvrhttp://us-foreign-aid.insidegov.com/q/112/1590/How-much-money-does-the-U-S-give-to-Mexico According to this site we gave Mexico $209 million in foreign aid in 2012. I'm thinking that will pay for part of it. About 5 miles. www.technologyreview.com/s/602494/bad-math-props-up-trumps-border-wall/ Who pays for the other 995 miles. US Taxpayers (a set that excludes the PEOTUS)... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #40 January 11, 2017 kallend ***http://us-foreign-aid.insidegov.com/q/112/1590/How-much-money-does-the-U-S-give-to-Mexico According to this site we gave Mexico $209 million in foreign aid in 2012. I'm thinking that will pay for part of it. About 5 miles. www.technologyreview.com/s/602494/bad-math-props-up-trumps-border-wall/ Who pays for the other 995 miles. US Taxpayers (a set that excludes the PEOTUS) You must have missed his tweet about invading south of the border about down to Vercruz. Wall will be a lot cheaper then.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,117 #41 January 11, 2017 airdvr ******http://us-foreign-aid.insidegov.com/q/112/1590/How-much-money-does-the-U-S-give-to-Mexico According to this site we gave Mexico $209 million in foreign aid in 2012. I'm thinking that will pay for part of it. About 5 miles. www.technologyreview.com/s/602494/bad-math-props-up-trumps-border-wall/ Who pays for the other 995 miles. US Taxpayers (a set that excludes the PEOTUS) You must have missed his tweet about invading south of the border about down to Vercruz. Wall will be a lot cheaper then.Why stop there? Take it all the way to Panama. There's already a moat in place, no wall needed. ... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,560 #42 January 11, 2017 Quote Panama... There's already a moat in place And the US built it Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,571 #43 January 11, 2017 airdvr ******http://us-foreign-aid.insidegov.com/q/112/1590/How-much-money-does-the-U-S-give-to-Mexico According to this site we gave Mexico $209 million in foreign aid in 2012. I'm thinking that will pay for part of it. About 5 miles. www.technologyreview.com/s/602494/bad-math-props-up-trumps-border-wall/ Who pays for the other 995 miles. US Taxpayers (a set that excludes the PEOTUS) You must have missed his tweet about invading south of the border about down to Vercruz. Wall will be a lot cheaper then.Perfect solution! And since all the Mexicans will be inside the wall already Trump can still get cheap labour for his hotels and country clubs. He's the winningest!Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,090 #44 January 11, 2017 >I'd take that bet but I already owe Popeye for some hamburgers. Figured you wouldn't once you thought about it a bit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nolhtairt 0 #45 January 11, 2017 airdvr http://us-foreign-aid.insidegov.com/q/112/1590/How-much-money-does-the-U-S-give-to-Mexico According to this site we gave Mexico $209 million in foreign aid in 2012. I'm thinking that will pay for part of it. That'll build what, maybe 200-300 miles of wall, or 800-1000 miles of fencing topped with concerta wire? Hey, it's a start. I'm not really a fan of sending millions of dollars in aid to other countries without having a say or accountability in how they spend it. Its OUR tax money. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #46 January 11, 2017 You didn't click on the link did you? the US does have a say with some of that money. It specifically funds certain items within their budget. If you had clicked on the link it would have been somewhat obvious. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,571 #47 January 11, 2017 nolhtairt***http://us-foreign-aid.insidegov.com/q/112/1590/How-much-money-does-the-U-S-give-to-Mexico According to this site we gave Mexico $209 million in foreign aid in 2012. I'm thinking that will pay for part of it. That'll build what, maybe 200-300 miles of wall No. Even Trump's wildly over-optimistic estimate said the wall was going to cost 12Bn to build. So best case is that 4 years of foreign aid pays for 7% of the wall, or about 140 miles. And that's building only, not upkeep. And as noted, some of the aid is for Mexico to do stuff you want them to do so there will be a cost involved in dealing with the consequences of them not doing it anymore, and dealing with consequences is usually a lot more expensive than paying for prevenion.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,090 #48 January 11, 2017 >No. Even Trump's wildly over-optimistic estimate said the wall was going to cost >12Bn to build. So best case is that 4 years of foreign aid pays for 7% of the wall, >or about 140 miles. Perhaps we could hire Mexicans to direct potential border crossers to that 140 miles of wall, where they will be stopped, rather than accidentally cross the border some other place. (In 2005, the remaining San Diego/Tijuana border fence was budgeted at $10 million a mile, so that's actually $20 billion by a 12 year old estimate.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,117 #49 January 12, 2017 billvon>No. Even Trump's wildly over-optimistic estimate said the wall was going to cost >12Bn to build. So best case is that 4 years of foreign aid pays for 7% of the wall, >or about 140 miles. Perhaps we could hire Mexicans to direct potential border crossers to that 140 miles of wall, where they will be stopped, rather than accidentally cross the border some other place. (In 2005, the remaining San Diego/Tijuana border fence was budgeted at $10 million a mile, so that's actually $20 billion by a 12 year old estimate.) The MIT estimate was $38Million/mile. But what do they know?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faicon9493 141 #50 January 13, 2017 http://www.snopes.com/trackdown-trump-character-wall Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
