GRIZZLY STEPPE – Russian Malicious Cyber Activity

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Royreader8812

There is no evidence presented that suggests the Russian Government was involved.

Well, you're simply wrong about that. There is ample evidence to suggest Russian involvement.

This is similar to say, the pieces of a surface to air missile of Russian origin being found in the wreckage of a downed Ukranian airliner. While there is no proof Russia ordered the pulling the trigger, they were absolutely involved in the design and deployment of the weapon into the area of operation. To say they weren't involved is silly.

Back to the DNC hacking scandal, what has not been made public is ample evidence the average person could understand that absolutely proves Russian ordered the pulling of the trigger, but there is so much inference to be drawn from their involvement the point is actually moot.

I remain open to the possibility some yet-to-be-named 3rd party hired the Russian hacker teams to do this as mercenaries as opposed to being ordered by Putin himself. Let's, just for the sake of ease, call that 3rd party, "Blofeld." Does it really let Russia off the hook?

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[Royreader8812 0]

Huh,

Give me the actual evidence (point to the particular content) that suggests I am silly believing this is nothing more than a distraction.

The DHS was caught red handed trying to hack the Georgian state elections. You don't seem particularly concerned with that.

1, they were unable to do so without being caught.
2, they insisted they should oversee the process...Georgia was only one of two states to tell them no. And used private firms that not only stopped the DHS hacking, but caught them red handed.


So.

3 What makes you think the DHS are so honest, so capable and are not trying to hide thsir own dishonesty?

But firstly.

YOU have to tell us all here, what exactly about this grizzly steppe paper or what in it, proves or even suggests that the Russian Government had anything to do with it?

[billvon 3,119]

>There is no evidence presented that suggests the Russian Government was involved.

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FBI, DHS release report on Russia hacking
By Katie Bo Williams - 12/29/16 03:02 PM EST

The Hill

The FBI and the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) on Thursday released a joint report detailing how federal investigators linked the Russian government to hacks of Democratic Party organizations.

The document makes clear reference to the hacks of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and Hillary Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta, though it does not mention either by name.

The 13-page report provides technical details regarding tools and infrastructure used by Russian civilian and military intelligence services to “compromise and exploit networks and endpoints associated with the U.S. election, as well as a range of U.S. Government, political, and private sector entities.” (See the entire report below.)
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The CIA and NSA agree.

[Royreader8812 0]

Lol, so you just have 'faith' that they are being truthful.

What is the specific evidence.

I will be interested to see how 'faithful' you guys will be in these institutions after the changing if the guard later this month.

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Well, there are congresscritters from both sides who have actually seen the evidence who are publicly stating that they believe Russia, with Putin in charge, deliberately released info (both true and false) to influence the election.

And unlike in Russia, Trump won't control the legislature the way Putin does.

There is a pretty good chance this won't just "go away" when Trump takes office.

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[Royreader8812 0]

What evidence?

So much talk of evidence... But no evidence....

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Royreader8812

What evidence?

So much talk of evidence... But no evidence....

Okay, let's try a little experiment.

Prove to me you exist. That is to say, you're one human individual living on the planet who hasn't been previously banned from this web site and has created a new account in violation of this site's terms of service.

So far I've seen no evidence.

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[billvon 3,119]

>Lol, so you just have 'faith' that they are being truthful.

When four such agencies, whose job it is to figure such stuff out, agree - then yes, the odds that they are being truthful is high.

It is remarkable indeed that today's political environment is so polarized that we have conservatives supporting Russia propaganda over US intelligence agencies, simply because "their guy" has Russian support.

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Royreader8812

Huh,

Give me the actual evidence (point to the particular content) that suggests I am silly believing this is nothing more than a distraction.

The DHS was caught red handed trying to hack the Georgian state elections. You don't seem particularly concerned with that.

1, they were unable to do so without being caught.
2, they insisted they should oversee the process...Georgia was only one of two states to tell them no. And used private firms that not only stopped the DHS hacking, but caught them red handed.


So.

3 What makes you think the DHS are so honest, so capable and are not trying to hide thsir own dishonesty?

But firstly.

YOU have to tell us all here, what exactly about this grizzly steppe paper or what in it, proves or even suggests that the Russian Government had anything to do with it?

Why do you persist in changing the subject? The Russians are long time proven hackers. They left their finger prints all over this exploit. Other people hack as well, but that's beside the point. Only Russia used their stolen files to subvert the election. No one else did.

Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

[Royreader8812 0]

So many assumptions, no wonder people are gullible.

Who needs proof when a conveniently scripted load of bullshit can be presented and everyone just believes it.

I'm just going to.watch the coming weeks with pure interest.

Williams have conveniently been pushed aside from this agenda.

I think that is going to change, and writing or believing this grizzly steppe tripe will become very embarrassing.