trump Princelings

[Phil1111 1,182]

"The Princelings, also translated as the Party's Crown Princes, are the descendants of prominent and influential senior communist officials in the People's Republic of China. It is not a political party, but an informal, and often derogatory, categorization to signify those benefiting from nepotism and cronyism, by analogy with crown princes in hereditary monarchies. Many of its members hold high-level political and business positions in the upper echelons of power. However, there is no discernible political cohesion within the group, and as such they should not be compared to other informal groupings such as the Shanghai clique or the Tuanpai ("Youth League clique"), which resemble inter-party factions with some degree of affinity on policy issues."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princelings

"Trump 'Princelings' No Shield for Business Conflicts, Ethics Expert Says...

Donald Trump’s plan to transfer control of his company to his children does not solve concerns that his company will create a conflict when he takes office, according to a newly-released document from the Office of Government Ethics.

“Transferring operational control of a company to one’s children would not constitute the establishment of a qualified blind trust, nor would it eliminate conflicts of interest,” the director of the office concluded in a Dec. 12 letter.

Trump said this week he would be passing control of the company to two of his adult children, Don Jr. and Eric, "plus executives,” who, “will manage them."

Trump had initially planned to reveal how he would resolve potential conflicts with his vast global business on Dec. 15. This week he postponed that announcement until January.

Trump tweeted on Monday to say that “even though I am not mandated by law to do so, I will be leaving my businesses before January 20th so that I can focus full time on the Presidency. Two of my children, Don and Eric, plus executives, will manage them. No new deals will be done during my term(s) in office.”
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-faces-conflicts-interest-children-running-business-ethics/story?id=44175335

"J.P. Morgan Settlement Lays Bare the Practice of Hiring ‘Princelings’
So-called Sons and Daughters program in Asia sought to hire well-connected offspring to win business..

A decade ago, a J.P. Morgan Chase & Co. managing director in Asia sent an email to the investment-banking team: “As you know, the firm does not condone the hiring of the children or other relatives of clients or potential clients...In fact, the firm’s policies expressly forbid this,” the director wrote.

Within two years, however, the team had begun orchestrating the hiring of dozens of relatives of powerful government officials in Asia with the express purpose of winning business, U.S. authorities said Thursday. The bank had created a separate channel to get unqualified applicants through the hiring process, and it later began tracking profits from any subsequent business awarded because of the hires, they said.

One candidate was described in an email as “the worst [business analyst] candidate they had ever see[n].” Another had a “napping habit” that would be an “eye-opening experience” for New York colleagues. In both instances, the candidates were hired, according to criminal and civil settlements the bank reached with the Justice Department, the Securities and Exchange Commission and the Federal Reserve.

All told, the bank hired around 100 applicants referred by government officials at Chinese state-owned firms, and earned at least $35 million as the result of a “corrupt scheme,” according to the settlement documents. The agreement ends a multiyear, high-profile investigation that had called into question whether the U.S. government was threatening to criminalize standard business practices in some countries.

J.P. Morgan agreed to pay $264 million and admitted it violated the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act—which bars U.S. firms from paying bribes to officials of foreign government in an effort to win business—through its hiring of so-called princelings."
http://www.wsj.com/articles/j-p-morgan-to-pay-264-million-to-end-criminal-civil-foreign-corruption-cases-1479398628

Oh well, trump and his kids can hire the ex-Israeli ambassador( David Friedman)to deal with his corruption mess after he is tossed from office and Ivanka has to close her White House graft office. After all Friedman is familiar with trump's many bankruptcies.

[Phil1111 1,182]

"“Today’s report that a large government contractor hired the sister-in-law of Clinton campaign Chair John Podesta while he was at the State Department in order to win a massive arms contract shows the depths of the corrupt Clinton machine while she was at State. This type of shameless influence peddling shows exactly why Americans are flocking to Mr. Trump’s candidacy. Electing Hillary Clinton president will only further perpetuate the broken and corrupt political system that has enriched political insiders while leaving average Americans in the lurch.” – Jason Miller, Senior Communications Advisor"
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/statement-on-more-clinton-state-department-corruption

"Trump's campaign paid his businesses $8.2 million

The GOP presidential candidate draws on his own companies to an unprecedented degree.

Donald Trump’s presidential campaign has paid his family's businesses more than $8.2 million, according to a POLITICO analysis of campaign finance filings, which reveals an integrated business and political operation without precedent in national politics.

The GOP presidential nominee’s campaign has paid his various businesses for services including rent for his campaign offices ($1.3 million), food and facilities for events and meetings ($544,000) and payroll for Trump corporate staffers ($333,000) who helped with everything from his traveling security to his wife’s convention speech.

That’s an unprecedented amount of self-dealing in federal politics. Even the wealthiest of candidates have refrained from tapping their businesses’ resources to such an extensive degree, either because their businesses are structured in a manner that doesn’t legally allow them to do it with flexibility, or because they’re leery of the allegations of pocket-padding that inevitably arise when politicians use their campaigns or committees to pay their businesses or families."
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/donald-trump-business-campaign-trail-228500

"Donald Trump Won't Divest From His Business Before Entering Office

The president-elect reportedly refuses to sell off his holdings, leaving questions about whether they will influence his policy.
President-elect Donald Trump
Carlo Allegri / Jeremy Venook Dec 16, 2016

...numerous experts, including Norm Eisen and Richard Painter, who served as the ethics lawyers for the Obama and Bush administrations, respectively, and Laurence Tribe, a constitutional-law professor at Harvard Law School, have already weighed in on the president-elect’s decision not to divest. According to them, simply stepping down from a leadership position—indeed, anything short of complete divestment—does not mitigate concerns regarding conflicts of interest. As long as Trump is profiting off of his business, they say, Trump will be in continual violation of the Constitution’s Emoluments Clause, which explicitly forbids the president from receiving gifts from foreign leaders—something that will effectively be happening any time a foreign government deals with the Trump Organization, whether by booking a room in one of its hotels or by easing the development of future properties in their own countries...

Since his election, an ever-increasing level of attention has been paid to the unprecedented conflicts of interest that President-elect Donald J. Trump seems likely to bring with him when he assumes office. His responses to the concerns have been varied and, at times, contradictory. His first statement on the subject, which came via Twitter, suggested that he would make little effort to avoid entangling his business and his office, and would instead attack those who point that out:

Prior to the election it was well known that I have interests in properties all over the world.Only the crooked media makes this a big deal!...

In addition to the many possibilities for President-elect Trump to pursue his financial interests in office, the unique makeup of his cabinet also creates a new set of financial motivations. While Trump’s own fortune automatically makes his administration the wealthiest in history, he has also surrounded himself with an unprecedented collection of billionaires and multi-millionaires whose investments are likely to also come under scrutiny.

Unlike the president-elect himself, those who are up for Trump’s cabinet, such as his proposed Secretary of the Treasury Steven Mnuchin and Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos, will be legally obligated to divest from any holdings which may pose a conflict of interest. However, as The Washington Post noted, even selling off their holdings offers an opportunity for Trump’s cabinet members to enhance their fortunes. A federal program known as a “certificate of divestiture” allows executive-branch appointees and employees to avoid capital-gains taxes when selling their assets. The program has existed since 1989, and most recently received attention when President George W. Bush appointed Hank Paulson, then the chief executive of Goldman Sachs as his Treasury Secretary in 2006. Paulson was forced to sell off $700 million in shares of the bank; the certificate of divestiture enabled him to avoid a potential $200 million in capital-gains tax liability. According to The Washington Post, the Office of Government Ethics is currently researching whether the president-elect himself would qualify for the tax break; even if he doesn’t, the unprecedented wealth of Trump’s cabinet promises to push this provision, and the financial incentives it creates, to the limit."
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2016/12/donald-trump-conflicts-of-interests/508382/

[jclalor 12]

Your lack of original thought and use of cut & paste is nauseating.

[BartsDaddy 7]

Well I am not a Trump fanboy. But if you have to rent office space to run your campaign or catering for it,dosent it make since to use your companies? Its not like he was an elected official yet.
It was widely reported he funded his campaign. How much so I am not sure. But I never heard any arguements to the truth of that, just ones saying he was running out of money. So if it is his own money what does it matter what company he spends it at?

Handguns are only used to fight your way to a good rifle

[Phil1111 1,182]

BartsDaddy

Well I am not a Trump fanboy. But if you have to rent office space to run your campaign or catering for it,dosent it make since to use your companies? Its not like he was an elected official yet.
It was widely reported he funded his campaign. How much so I am not sure. But I never heard any arguements to the truth of that, just ones saying he was running out of money. So if it is his own money what does it matter what company he spends it at?

Its against the law to profit from goods or services provided to your own campaign. Its against the law to buy goods or services for less than fair market value.That provides an unfair advantage. He never funded his campaign himself. He relied on donations and the sale of trump branded goods. i.e. hats, etc.

The intent of the thread was to address the implications of a family personally profiting from political family connections and how trumps failure to address it is illegal and unethical after he is in office. How its a recipe for corruption and influence peddling.

For which Ivanka moving into the White House with her separate office while her brothers Eric and Donald run the family business. Smacks of either cash for access, pay for play, or any other excuse to profit from a political position.

[BartsDaddy 7]

Phil1111

***Well I am not a Trump fanboy. But if you have to rent office space to run your campaign or catering for it,dosent it make since to use your companies? Its not like he was an elected official yet.
It was widely reported he funded his campaign. How much so I am not sure. But I never heard any arguements to the truth of that, just ones saying he was running out of money. So if it is his own money what does it matter what company he spends it at?

Its against the law to profit from goods or services provided to your own campaign. Its against the law to buy goods or services for less than fair market value.That provides an unfair advantage. He never funded his campaign himself. He relied on donations and the sale of trump branded goods. i.e. hats, etc.

The intent of the thread was to address the implications of a family personally profiting from political family connections and how trumps failure to address it is illegal and unethical after he is in office. How its a recipe for corruption and influence peddling.

For which Ivanka moving into the White House with her separate office while her brothers Eric and Donald run the family business. Smacks of either cash for access, pay for play, or any other excuse to profit from a political position.
And I am sure you have physical evidence of any of this. Do you care to cite any of the laws you say we're broken? I will wait.

Handguns are only used to fight your way to a good rifle

[Phil1111 1,182]

BartsDaddy

******Well I am not a Trump fanboy. But if you have to rent office space to run your campaign or catering for it,dosent it make since to use your companies? Its not like he was an elected official yet.
It was widely reported he funded his campaign. How much so I am not sure. But I never heard any arguements to the truth of that, just ones saying he was running out of money. So if it is his own money what does it matter what company he spends it at?

Its against the law to profit from goods or services provided to your own campaign. Its against the law to buy goods or services for less than fair market value.That provides an unfair advantage. He never funded his campaign himself. He relied on donations and the sale of trump branded goods. i.e. hats, etc.

The intent of the thread was to address the implications of a family personally profiting from political family connections and how trumps failure to address it is illegal and unethical after he is in office. How its a recipe for corruption and influence peddling.

For which Ivanka moving into the White House with her separate office while her brothers Eric and Donald run the family business. Smacks of either cash for access, pay for play, or any other excuse to profit from a political position.
And I am sure you have physical evidence of any of this. Do you care to cite any of the laws you say we're broken? I will wait.

https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-06-29/trump-campaign-broke-law-by-soliciting-foreign-donations-complaint-alleges

http://www.campaignlegalcenter.org/news/press-releases/fec-must-investigate-unprecedented-violations-campaign-finance-laws-clinton

http://time.com/4579060/fec-donald-trump-campaign-contributions/

Unfortunately I'm personally not in possession of the "physical evidence".

"Foreign Nationals
Foreign nationals may not make contributions in connection with any election--Federal, State or local. This prohibition does not apply to foreign citizens who are lawfully admitted for permanent residence in the United States (those who have "green cards").

Corporations and Unions

The law also prohibits contributions from corporations and labor unions. This prohibition applies to any incorporated organization, profit or nonprofit. For example, the owner of an incorporated "mom and pop" grocery store is not permitted to use a business account to make contributions. Instead, the owner would have to use a personal account. A corporate employee may make contributions through a nonrepayable corporate drawing account, which allows the individual to draw personal funds against salary, profits or other compensation.

Donated Items and Services

The donation of office machines, furniture, supplies--anything of value--is an in-kind contribution. The value of the donated item (the usual and normal charge) counts against the contribution limits. A donation of services is also considered an in-kind contribution. For example, if you pay a consultant's fee or a printing bill for services provided to a campaign, you have made an in-kind contribution in the amount of the payment.

If you sell an item or service to a committee and ask the committee to pay less than the usual and normal charge, you have also made an in-kind contribution to the committee in the amount of the discount.

Under limited exceptions in the law, you may provide certain goods and services without making a contribution to the committee. These exceptions are volunteering, travel expenses and business services.

http://www.fec.gov/pages/brochures/citizens.shtml

[jakee 1,595]

BartsDaddy

It was widely reported he funded his campaign.

No, it was widely reported that he claimed he would fund his own campaign.

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But I never heard any arguements to the truth of that,

Then you can't have been listening very hard.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[kallend 2,148]

BartsDaddy

******Well I am not a Trump fanboy. But if you have to rent office space to run your campaign or catering for it,dosent it make since to use your companies? Its not like he was an elected official yet.
It was widely reported he funded his campaign. How much so I am not sure. But I never heard any arguements to the truth of that, just ones saying he was running out of money. So if it is his own money what does it matter what company he spends it at?

Its against the law to profit from goods or services provided to your own campaign. Its against the law to buy goods or services for less than fair market value.That provides an unfair advantage. He never funded his campaign himself. He relied on donations and the sale of trump branded goods. i.e. hats, etc.

The intent of the thread was to address the implications of a family personally profiting from political family connections and how trumps failure to address it is illegal and unethical after he is in office. How its a recipe for corruption and influence peddling.

For which Ivanka moving into the White House with her separate office while her brothers Eric and Donald run the family business. Smacks of either cash for access, pay for play, or any other excuse to profit from a political position.
And I am sure you have physical evidence of any of this. Do you care to cite any of the laws you say we're broken? I will wait.

It is a clear violation of the emoluments clause if ANY member or agency of a foreign government pays for a room or a meeting in one of his hotels or clubs anywhere in the world.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[Channman 2]

Phil1111

***Well I am not a Trump fanboy. But if you have to rent office space to run your campaign or catering for it,dosent it make since to use your companies? Its not like he was an elected official yet.
It was widely reported he funded his campaign. How much so I am not sure. But I never heard any arguements to the truth of that, just ones saying he was running out of money. So if it is his own money what does it matter what company he spends it at?

Its against the law to profit from goods or services provided to your own campaign. Its against the law to buy goods or services for less than fair market value.That provides an unfair advantage. He never funded his campaign himself. He relied on donations and the sale of trump branded goods. i.e. hats, etc.

The intent of the thread was to address the implications of a family personally profiting from political family connections and how trumps failure to address it is illegal and unethical after he is in office. How its a recipe for corruption and influence peddling.

For which Ivanka moving into the White House with her separate office while her brothers Eric and Donald run the family business. Smacks of either cash for access, pay for play, or any other excuse to profit from a political position.

I think its no big deal. There are far more important things to worry about. Just another distraction from getting people back to work, and things like that.

[billvon 3,116]

>So if it is his own money what does it matter what company he spends it at?

Well, not quite. He "borrowed" money from himself. He then repaid himself with contributions people sent. That money, of course, went to both repaying those loans (i.e. to himself) and funding his spending on rental costs, flight costs etc (also to himself.)

Now, you could argue that Trump supporters all knew that their money was going to go right back into his pocket.

[wmw999 2,588]

Channing, there are some people who wouldn't have a problem with Trump eating a live baby on stage, as long as it was a liberal baby .

Getting rich off of doing business with the government, while you are part of that government, and either able to drive business, or just someone who people want to suck up to, if kind of a classic definition of corruption.

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[Channman 2]

wmw999

Channing, there are some people who wouldn't have a problem with Trump eating a live baby on stage, as long as it was a liberal baby .

Getting rich off of doing business with the government, while you are part of that government, and either able to drive business, or just someone who people want to suck up to, if kind of a classic definition of corruption.

Wendy P.

Eating a live baby...that might be going to far, you would have to assume a liberal would first allowed the baby to be born alive prior to the child being offered up as a meal.

Some people think it was no big deal that a Secretary of State was allowed to enrich themselves using their position of power. Trump owns what, somewhere North of 500 properties / businesses and to think he could divest himself from all these in short order is not likely without taking Billions in losses and or being in Breach of Contract.

You have grown children that work in the Trump organization that would be penalized and/or prevented from making a living in that which they have been performing for many years simply because their father was officially elected by the Electoral College this afternoon.
I'm sure, Trump will be litigated for the next 4 years in all manner of issues...as his political opponents have only just begun. He has promised to discuss this very issue next month, so we will have more to discuss / debate in the next few weeks.

As for classic corruption...yes you have a point if in fact that is what is happening during the next 4 years...but we have had that going on for years by the other party and yet not so much of a peep from the media or DZ.COM. Well maybe DZ.COM, but I don't live on these pages all that often.

Wendy, have a bless Christmas.

Cheers to You and the family.

[billvon 3,116]

>Some people think it was no big deal that a Secretary of State was allowed to enrich themselves
>using their position of power.

If they used government money to pay themselves (outside their salaries) it would indeed be a big deal.

> Trump owns what, somewhere North of 500 properties / businesses and to think he could divest
>himself from all these in short order is not likely without taking Billions in losses and or being in Breach
>of Contract.

That is correct. (To be more specific, he would have to have such properties appraised, and they would be appraised at a much lower value than he claims.) However, no one is demanding that he "divest himself from all those in short order" - just that he sets up a blind trust so that he can keep them while not generating immense conflicts of interest.

[TriGirl 343]

Phil1111

Smacks of either cash for access, pay for play, or any other excuse to profit from a political position.

Speaking of pay-to-play:

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Want to attend a ladies luncheon with Melania Trump? Or a candlelight dinner with President-elect Trump and Vice-President-elect Mike Pence? Want to hobnob with Trump Cabinet nominees and congressional leaders?

Easy: Simply plunk down $1 million to the Trump inaugural committee — a gift that guarantees high-rolling donors and corporate executives special access to the new leadership about to take over in Washington....

The next level, for $100,000 donors, will get you four tickets to those events — plus two tickets for “an intimate policy discussion and dinner” with select Cabinet appointees....

From https://www.yahoo.com/news/trumps-inauguration-ticket-prices-25000-to-1-million-013543267.html

Check out the link in the story for full "underwriter benefits." While I am fine with helping to finance the event by selling packages that include ball tickets, preferred hotel bookings and ground transportation, the access issues really concern me.

See the upside, and always wear your parachute! -- Christopher Titus

Shut Up & Jump!

[jakee 1,595]

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Some people think it was no big deal that a Secretary of State was allowed to enrich themselves using their position of power.

False. Some people think that the accusation that a Secretary of State was allowed to enrich themselves using their position of power is a batant right wing smear with no basis in fact.

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You have grown children that work in the Trump organization that would be penalized and/or prevented from making a living in that which they have been performing for many years simply because their father was officially elected by the Electoral College this afternoon.

Yes, if those children weren't allowed to sit in on Presidential meetings with government representatives of countries in which their business is operating it would be so terribly unfair on the little darlings.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[Channman 2]

jakee

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Some people think it was no big deal that a Secretary of State was allowed to enrich themselves using their position of power.

False. Some people think that the accusation that a Secretary of State was allowed to enrich themselves using their position of power is a batant right wing smear with no basis in fact.

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You have grown children that work in the Trump organization that would be penalized and/or prevented from making a living in that which they have been performing for many years simply because their father was officially elected by the Electoral College this afternoon.

Yes, if those children weren't allowed to sit in on Presidential meetings with government representatives of countries in which their business is operating it would be so terribly unfair on the little darlings.

To my knowledge they might be involved to some degree in the transition, but I was unaware they are receiving high level security clearances and positions within the administration to meet with such heads of state. Where will they find the time to run the Trump Empior as been reported by the media?

[Phil1111 1,182]

Channman

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Some people think it was no big deal that a Secretary of State was allowed to enrich themselves using their position of power.

False. Some people think that the accusation that a Secretary of State was allowed to enrich themselves using their position of power is a batant right wing smear with no basis in fact.

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You have grown children that work in the Trump organization that would be penalized and/or prevented from making a living in that which they have been performing for many years simply because their father was officially elected by the Electoral College this afternoon.

Yes, if those children weren't allowed to sit in on Presidential meetings with government representatives of countries in which their business is operating it would be so terribly unfair on the little darlings.

To my knowledge they might be involved to some degree in the transition, but I was unaware they are receiving high level security clearances and positions within the administration to meet with such heads of state. Where will they find the time to run the Trump Empior as been reported by the media?

The Opening Day Foundation a "nonprofit" was started by the trump princelings, to fund "conservation charities". "The paperwork for the Opening Day Foundation listed four directors: Donald Trump Jr., Eric Trump...A Center for Public Integrity review of Texas incorporation records found the Opening Day Foundation was created less than a week ago, on Dec. 14.

Unlike political committees, such nonprofits aren’t required by law to reveal their donors, allowing sponsors to write seven-figure checks for access to the president while staying anonymous, if they choose.

The event offers sponsor packages ranging from $25,000 to $1 million.

The Trump family has come under scrutiny since the election as questions swirl about how the president-elect will handle his business interests in office. He has said his adult children will take over, but has offered no concrete details.

A charity auction for a coffee date with future first daughter Ivanka Trump appeared to have been shut down over the weekend. "

The poor princelings can hardly contain themselves in their greed..er... haste to grab as much cash as possible. One closes a "charity" event while her brothers start up another. The only question remains is if there will be statutes bought from charity money of Ivanka,Donald Trump Jr. and Eric Trump.With the sculptor enhancing the size of the hands of Eric and Don Jr. of course! After all President elect trump bought a nice painting of himself using charity money from another trump charity.

The princelings certainly need images of themselves in the white-house and the lobby of Trump tower. So all the political cash can be properly directed to the right trump child.
http://thehill.com/homenews/news/311122-trump-brothers-behind-nonprofit-offering-access-to-president-elect-report

"Where will they find the time to run the Trump Empior as been reported by the media?" It seems as if they never sleep they are so busy!

[DanG 1]

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To my knowledge they might be involved to some degree in the transition, but I was unaware they are receiving high level security clearances and positions within the administration to meet with such heads of state.

Seriously? Are you not aware that Ivanka was present during Trump's closed door meeting with the Japanese Prime Minister?

- Dan G

[normiss 897]

She has bragged about those meetings, with pictures, on her Twitter page.

[jakee 1,595]

Channman

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Yes, if those children weren't allowed to sit in on Presidential meetings with government representatives of countries in which their business is operating it would be so terribly unfair on the little darlings.

To my knowledge they might be involved to some degree in the transition, but I was unaware they are receiving high level security clearances and positions within the administration to meet with such heads of state. Where will they find the time to run the Trump Empior as been reported by the media?

First, I chose my words carefully and I did not say heads of state. Mostly because heads of state are often unelected figureheads and relatively unimportant on the world of influence peddling.

Second, if you are unaware of Trumps kids sitting in on meetings with foreign representatives then you are terminally clueless.

Third, if you don't think that meeting with such people could help them run said empire, then you are irredeemably stupid.

However, I don't think you are either of those things. I think you're just arguing because Trump has a R next to his name, and therefore must be protected at all costs - because at the end of the day, isn't left vs right all that really matters?

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[Channman 2]

>"...because at the end of the day, isn't left vs right all that really matters?"

We are in a War of Idea's, I'm very aware of Ivanka Trump was with and sat in on a meeting with Shinzo Abe. To my knowledge this is not at the moment a conflict, and I'm not sure what if any role she will have in the administration. She was, I believe closing out a deal in regards to her clothing brand. Now I know the New York Times and other media outlets are currently doing an Anal exam on the Donald and seeing what kind of shit they can dig up.

As mentioned before, the left will spend the next 4 years finding and or creating a story that will bring the Donald down. As for me, I will go about my work, hanging out with my grandkids, flying little Miss Piggy PA-24 here or there and or Paragliding and ridge soaring with the Hope of a better tomorrow.

Merry Christmas

[jakee 1,595]

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I'm very aware of Ivanka Trump was with and sat in on a meeting with Shinzo Abe.

How was that possible? How did she manage that without clearance!

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To my knowledge this is not at the moment a conflict,

Then you need to update your knowledge

Honestly, blind partisanship is the only way that anyone makes that statement.

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She was, I believe closing out a deal in regards to her clothing brand.

"There was no conflict of interest, she was simply leveraging Trump's election success to gain special access to the highest levels of Japanese government to discuss her clothing business while sat next to the next President of the USA, who could be counted on to take a personal interest in the success or failure of those discussions. How could anyone possibly think this was a conflict of interest?"




BAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[Channman 2]

Take three deep cleansing breaths...that should help calm you.

[billvon 3,116]

>We are in a War of Idea's

Yes we are. One side has ideas, one side has angry tweets, no clear ideas and a team of people saying "don't take our leader literally; he isn't really correct. Take him _symbolically!_"

>As mentioned before, the left will spend the next 4 years finding and or creating a
>story that will bring the Donald down.

I am sure Trump is more than capable of doing that on his own.