ryoder 1,590 #1 November 10, 2016 I found discussion of this on another forum. Frank Luntz is a long-time pollster talking about how American attitudes have changed for the worse regarding elections. He put together a mixed group of 2 dozen people to show "60 Minutes": http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-american-voters-on-trump-clinton/"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,183 #2 November 10, 2016 I saw it on 60 Min and thought it explained the general thinking and anger of the electorate better than the polling. With the protests last night I wonder what will happen when trump takes office. Some are angry. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #3 November 10, 2016 Phil1111I saw it on 60 Min and thought it explained the general thinking and anger of the electorate better than the polling. With the protests last night I wonder what will happen when trump takes office. Some are angry. A lot of it is going to depend on who he appoints in his cabinet (already heard Giuliani for AG or Homeland Security, both of which make me shudder) and his communications. His victory speech was conciliatory, which helped. We'll see what his communication is like in the days and months to come. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #4 November 10, 2016 Phil1111I saw it on 60 Min and thought it explained the general thinking and anger of the electorate better than the polling. With the protests last night I wonder what will happen when trump takes office. Some are angry. Funny how the dems do not accept elections results and its ok. Imagine the headlines had Hillary won and protestors took to the streets (which for the most part would not have happened) They are just cry baby sore losers. And they have the right to show everyone that is what they are."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 898 #5 November 10, 2016 Shoe on the other foot: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #6 November 10, 2016 normissShoe on the other foot: If you paid attention to the context you would understand"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeorgiaDon 380 #7 November 10, 2016 rushmc***Shoe on the other foot: If you paid attention to the context you would understandThe context being, whenever Republicans lose it's a travesty, and whenever Democrats lose everything is perfect? Don_____________________________________ Tolerance is the cost we must pay for our adventure in liberty. (Dworkin, 1996) “Education is not filling a bucket, but lighting a fire.” (Yeats) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #8 November 10, 2016 On another forum, in a discussion of "what went wrong in the polling", a poster shared this link: http://www.270towin.com/2016-polls-clinton-trump/ Not the large size of the "other" category. (You can click on the checkbox to subdivide it into some 3rd parties). His point was that the "other" category was voters who didn't like Trump or Clinton, but had not yet decided what to do. Then in the general election, they voted Trump just to give a big "Fuck you!" to the RNC and DNC establishment. So really there were two different kinds of Trump voters: a) The true believers who swallowed everything he said. b) The ones that hated Trump and Clinton, and voted Trump just to stick it to the man."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites