rehmwa 2 #26 October 18, 2016 billvon It's simple math - you have to balance the books. That means raising taxes and cutting spending. AGREED - so, since hard part is cutting spending, who's going to do that? ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 235 #27 October 18, 2016 Is it me or are Trump's floundering speeches starting to sound more and more like that final Jonestown recording where he knew the end was near and wanted to bring all of his followers with him in a mass suicide. Jonestownhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMrFCwYAZxE Trumphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXEAu6n19iU"I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #28 October 18, 2016 He's now facing a bigger problem - people are losing interest. Much of his appeal is that he has been fun - you never know what absurd thing he is going to say or do next, and his outrageous pronouncements and claims have always been entertaining. But even that is fading. From David Sable and Will Johnson of the PR firm Young & Rubicam: ===== Reeling from allegations of sexual assault and falling poll numbers, Donald Trump insists that his "movement powered by millions of people" remains strong. Diehards will stick with the GOP presidential candidate to the end, but his campaign is no juggernaut. It is instead a sputtering machine burdened with a leader who is becoming the one thing Trump never was before -- boring. Our company, Young & Rubicam, has studied Trump's consumer brand for many years through surveys and other market research, and our most recent results are eye-opening. In our surveys ending September 30, Trump experiences sharp declines, compared with just three months earlier, in the scores relating to whether people are excited by a celebrity, leader or consumer brand. Because he has sought to appeal to voters mainly as an unconventional choice, Trump has depended far more on personality than gravitas to sell himself. But it is becoming clear that the public is no longer intrigued by him. . . . If the tracking polls are accurate and Trump goes down to defeat, his brand could suffer. Ridiculed on "SNL," he may be fast becoming so uncool that many -- apart from his base of staunch supporters -- don't want to be associated with anything he sells. Of course his hotels, buildings and golf courses -- in which he holds varying equity stakes -- are hard assets that will retain intrinsic value. But if Trump wants them to perform as money-makers, they might have to be rebranded. ==== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #29 October 18, 2016 QuoteHow about better equipped? We just committed to spending 22 Billion dollars for new Zumwalt class Navy destroyers. Cost: $22.5 billion program cost (FY15) $3.96B/unit (FY15 excl R&D) $7.5B/unit (incl R&D) as of 2016 In commission: 15 October 2016 Building: 1 Planned: 32 Completed: 2 Cancelled: 29 Total number of ships that are going to be built is 3 - average cost is going to be around $8.9 Billion each with R&D costs included. The new USS Gerald R. Ford is the first ship in the new Ford class family of aircraft carriers and came at $13 Billion for the first one. Costs for the second one is going to be even more since they are going to building a all new laser weapons system with an estimated cost of 1.5 Billion being spent on it. Cost: Program cost: $36.30 billion(FY15) Unit cost: $10.44B(FY15) Building: 1 Planned: 10 Completed: 1 (awaiting commissioning) Lets not even get started on the F-35 and its costs and overruns. Program cost US$1.508 trillion (through 2070 in then-year dollars), US$55.1B for RDT&E, $319.1B for procurement, $4.8B for MILCON, $1123.8B for operations & sustainment (2015 estimate) Unit cost F-35A: $98M (low rate initial production without engine, full production in 2018 to be $85M) F-35B: US$104M (low rate initial production without engine) F-35C: US$116M (low rate initial production without engine) In February 2011, the Pentagon put a price of $207.6 million on each of the 32 aircraft to be acquired in FY2012, rising to $304.16 million (a total acquisition cost of $9.7 billion for 32 aircraft) if its share of research, development, test and evaluation (RDT&E) spending is included. We are the best equipped military force on Earth by an almost immeasurable factor over every other country out there. What more do you want?Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #30 October 18, 2016 Actually, I was thinking mostly about men and personal fighting equipment. Beef'm up.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #31 October 18, 2016 >Actually, I was thinking mostly about men and personal fighting equipment. Beef'm up. US combat soldiers carry between 100 and 135 pounds of gear on the battlefield. How much more "beef" do you want them to carry? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeorgiaDon 380 #32 October 18, 2016 RonD1120You do have a creative imagination for "what if" scenarios. KUDOSOK, so what was your point in linking an article about self-driving trucks and how many truck driver jobs that would eliminate? Did you have a point? Do you ever have a point, other than your usual stimulus/response reaction about republicans/Christians good, BHO/Clinton/muslims/everybody else evil? Don_____________________________________ Tolerance is the cost we must pay for our adventure in liberty. (Dworkin, 1996) “Education is not filling a bucket, but lighting a fire.” (Yeats) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #33 October 18, 2016 GeorgiaDonDid you have a point? Do you ever have a point, other than your usual stimulus/response reaction about republicans/Christians good, BHO/Clinton/muslims/everybody else evil? Don Like Trump, I fight back the best I can. Oh, I agree BHO/Clinton/muslims/ evil.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #34 October 18, 2016 billvon >How about better equipped? We are far better equipped than any other country in the world. We spend more money on our military than the next six countries combined. To put it into a nice visual, scroll down to the chart: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/11936179/What-are-the-biggest-defence-budgets-in-the-world.html But yet we have the frequently repeated GOP chant: "We need to rebuild our military!""There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeorgiaDon 380 #35 October 18, 2016 QuoteLike Trump, I fight back the best I can. Even bacteria are capable of stimulus/response. You might want to exercise your frontal lobes once in a while, lest they completely atrophy. Don_____________________________________ Tolerance is the cost we must pay for our adventure in liberty. (Dworkin, 1996) “Education is not filling a bucket, but lighting a fire.” (Yeats) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #36 October 18, 2016 You think I am bad now, you should've known me before 16 Mar 1981 when I thought liberalism was a legitimate path and alcohol was a viable buffer against the problems that it created.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #37 October 18, 2016 RonD1120You think I am bad now, you should've known me before 16 Mar 1981 when I thought liberalism was a legitimate path and alcohol was a viable buffer against the problems that it created. You blame liberalism for your alcoholism? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 284 #38 October 18, 2016 RonD1120******We need a president that will stimulate the economy and create jobs. Trump Trump would have done better to invest the money daddy gave him in index funds, and stayed in bed. That may be true. Trump chose a more difficult path and became very successful. So much so that he is a candidate for POTUS. That is what I want for a national leader. I want someone who had confidence in himself and took risks, learned how to use the law and stay within its bounds and advanced capitalism. I do not want someone who maintains a victim mentality expecting government to pave the way and make it easy for them. That would be BHO. Furthermore, I do not want a leader for whom the word scandal is part of their lifelong resume'. That would be HRC. Funniest post so far this year. Your trolling is becoming a touch too obvious though.Never try to eat more than you can lift Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,151 #39 October 18, 2016 ryoder ***>How about better equipped? We are far better equipped than any other country in the world. We spend more money on our military than the next six countries combined. To put it into a nice visual, scroll down to the chart: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/11936179/What-are-the-biggest-defence-budgets-in-the-world.html But yet we have the frequently repeated GOP chant: "We need to rebuild our military!"How can those poor defense contractor's stockholders afford to feed their kids with budgets like that?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #40 October 18, 2016 QuoteLet's have more of them. For what purpose? QuoteSurely, we can increase their strike and defense capabilities. But why?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #41 October 18, 2016 SkyDekker***You think I am bad now, you should've known me before 16 Mar 1981 when I thought liberalism was a legitimate path and alcohol was a viable buffer against the problems that it created. You blame liberalism for your alcoholism? No it was my choice. Liberalism as a way of life was simply the catalyst.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 235 #42 October 18, 2016 jakeeQuoteLet's have more of them. For what purpose? QuoteSurely, we can increase their strike and defense capabilities. But why? Because Team America World Police, motherfuckers!"I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 235 #43 October 18, 2016 RonD1120******You think I am bad now, you should've known me before 16 Mar 1981 when I thought liberalism was a legitimate path and alcohol was a viable buffer against the problems that it created. You blame liberalism for your alcoholism? No it was my choice. Liberalism as a way of life was simply the catalyst. How do you feel about liberal leave policies?"I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #44 October 18, 2016 DJL*********You think I am bad now, you should've known me before 16 Mar 1981 when I thought liberalism was a legitimate path and alcohol was a viable buffer against the problems that it created. You blame liberalism for your alcoholism? No it was my choice. Liberalism as a way of life was simply the catalyst. How do you feel about liberal leave policies? Since there is a counseling difference between feelings and beliefs, I can say unequivocally that I have no feeling regarding the policy. But seriously folks, I never had to deal with the policy. Therefore, I do not have an opinion.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #45 October 18, 2016 DJL*********You think I am bad now, you should've known me before 16 Mar 1981 when I thought liberalism was a legitimate path and alcohol was a viable buffer against the problems that it created. You blame liberalism for your alcoholism? No it was my choice. Liberalism as a way of life was simply the catalyst. How do you feel about liberal leave policies? or liberal portions of ice cream ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 334 #46 October 18, 2016 RonD1120You think I am bad now, you should've known me before 16 Mar 1981 when I thought liberalism was a legitimate path and alcohol was a viable buffer against the problems that it created. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #47 October 18, 2016 QuoteSince there is a counseling difference between... We're not in counseling. QuoteBut seriously folks, I never had to deal with the policy. Therefore, I do not have an opinion. You don't have to deal with the current state of military equipment either, but it seems to be pretty important to you.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,468 #48 October 18, 2016 Hi Ron, QuoteI do not know for certain. Quite often you start a thread or input yourself into a thread with some crazy 'facts/youtube videos' that people then refute with actual facts. You then often post: I do not know for certain. Why not just do your homework before you post non-factual garbage? Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #49 October 18, 2016 JerryBaumchenHi Ron, QuoteI do not know for certain. Quite often you start a thread or input yourself into a thread with some crazy 'facts/youtube videos' that people then refute with actual facts. You then often post: I do not know for certain. Why not just do your homework before you post non-factual garbage? Jerry Baumchen Well, here is the way it is. I am just communicating with the outside forces. I am not writing a term paper for grade. However, feel free to grade me all you want. Believe it or not, I learn from your consistent negativity. So, thank you for your feedback.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #50 October 18, 2016 Actually, if you had read and comprehended my post, the one to which you refer, you would have seen that I explained myself quite well.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
