List of Trump sexual assaults

[billvon 3,132]

Since it is somewhat offensive to me to consider a sexual assault a "gaffe" I'm starting another thread to catalogue them.

First his statement from the debate:
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Trump: I have great respect for women. Nobody has more respect for women than I do.
Cooper: So for the record, you’re saying you never did that? . . . .Have you ever done those things?
Trump: And they have respect for me. And I will tell you, no I have not.
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1981, Jessica Leeds. She ended up next to Trump in a first class seat. Trump pulled up the armrest, grabbed her breasts and tried to put his hand up her skirt. “He was like an octopus - His hands were everywhere. It was an assault." "It’s when he started putting his hand up my skirt… and that was it. That was it. I was out of there." Afterwards Leeds spoke to four people about it; all have corroborated her story.

1997, Temple Taggart. Trump unexpectedly kissed her on the mouth in public. She was shocked, and after he left, one of her chaperones (required for contestants in the Miss USA contest) advised her to not go into any rooms alone with Trump. Taggart - "I remember being shocked. I would have just thought to shake somebody's hand, and that was his first response with me. I remember feeling kind of embarrassed, like wanting to turn and wipe my mouth, like, 'What just happened?' But because he's the pageant owner, you're trying to make a good first impression. I just kind of shooed it off and kind of went along."

2003, Mindy McGillivray. “All of a sudden I felt a grab, a little nudge. I think it’s Ken’s camera bag, that was my first instinct. I turn around and there’s Donald. He sort of looked away quickly. I quickly turned back, facing Ray Charles, and I’m stunned. . . .This was a pretty good nudge. More of a grab…It was pretty close to the center of my butt. I was startled. I jumped." Corroborated by the photographer she was working with, Ken Davidoff.

2005, Rachel Crooks. She met Trump outside an elevator. Since her company did business with his, she introduced herself and shook his hand. He would not release her hand; he pulled her into him, kissed her on the cheeks and then on the mouth. Crooks finally pulled away and ran. When she got back to her desk she called her sister, who has also corroborated her story.

2005, Natasha Stoynoff:
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We walked into that room alone, and Trump shut the door behind us. I turned around, and within seconds he was pushing me against the wall and forcing his tongue down my throat.

Now, I’m a tall, strapping girl who grew up wrestling two giant brothers. I even once sparred with Mike Tyson. It takes a lot to push me. But Trump is much bigger — a looming figure — and he was fast, taking me by surprise and throwing me off balance. I was stunned. And I was grateful when Trump’s longtime butler burst into the room a minute later, as I tried to unpin myself.

The butler informed us that Melania would be down momentarily, and it was time to resume the interview.

I was still in shock and remained speechless as we both followed him to an outdoor patio overlooking the grounds. In those few minutes alone with Trump, my self-esteem crashed to zero. How could the actions of one man make me feel so utterly violated? I’d been interviewing A-list celebrities for over 20 years, but what he’d done was a first. Did he think I’d be flattered?

I tried to act normal. I had a job to do, and I was determined to do it. I sat in a chair that faced Trump, who waited for his wife on a loveseat. The butler left us, and I fumbled with my tape recorder. Trump smiled and leaned forward.

“You know we’re going to have an affair, don’t you?” he declared, in the same confident tone he uses when he says he’s going to make America great again. “Have you ever been to Peter Luger’s for steaks? I’ll take you. We’re going to have an affair, I’m telling you.” He also referenced the infamous cover of the New York Post during his affair with Marla Maples.

“You remember,” he said. “‘Best Sex I Ever Had.’ ”
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[ryoder 1,590]

From twitter this morning:

Kurt Eichenwald @kurteichenwald 37m37 minutes ago

The number of women making Trump accusations up to 14. Two of them made the accusations long ago. All stories describe very similar behavior

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[rehmwa 2]

Other public political figures who were abusive....Grover Cleveland

According to Abe Simpson: "When I was a pup, we got spanked by Presidents till the cows came home. Grover Cleveland spanked me on two nonconsecutive occasions."

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[billvon 3,132]

2013, Cassandra Searles, Miss USA contestant - "He probably doesn’t want me telling the story about that time he continually grabbed my ass and invited me to his hotel room."

[yoink 321]

The problem is that even if these allegations DID happen (and I'd guess that many probably did), they lose all credibility in being announced at this particular time in this particular way.

Without corroborating evidence from the time of the assault (charges, letters etc.) even a anti-Trump person like myself has to ask 'well why didn't any of these people say something at the time?' Saying something now seems to show you have an agenda beyond justice, and that immediately makes me suspicious.
Yes, I can believe Trump would do it, but that shouldn't be enough to convict him in the eyes of the public. There have been a number of assault charges just being fabricated out of thin air by crazies who want attention.

I have a horrible feeling that some of these charges will be either inflated or outright falsified just in order to get either attention or to damage Trump.

Rather than the raft of claims coming forward I just want to see 3 that say 'this is what he did and here's a record of my report to the police at the time'. THAT would be news. This is mostly just unwanted noise.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

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Without corroborating evidence from the time of the assault (charges, letters etc.) even a anti-Trump person like myself has to ask 'well why didn't any of these people say something at the time?' Saying something now seems to show you have an agenda beyond justice, and that immediately makes me suspicious.

Yes. Of course, that is the most logical explanation.

I mean, who would have thought that after a tape becomes public of a powerful person boasting about sexual assault women would come forward stating that actually happened.

Let's say you are in the elevator with the President of the company you work for. Just you and that person. All of a sudden you are touched inappropriately. The doors open and he walks out.

I am sure you will immediately go to the police and report it.

Makes perfect sense

[headoverheels 334]

You left out spousal rape.

[billvon 3,132]

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Without corroborating evidence from the time of the assault (charges, letters etc.) even a anti-Trump person like myself has to ask 'well why didn't any of these people say something at the time?'

Well, a few reasons.

One was described by Trump himself. When you're a star, they let you get away with it.

Another is that female victims of assault fear they will be slut-shamed when they accuse a man of assault (indeed, Trump is doing this now.) Thus they may tend to remain quiet, and hope it all blows over. Until they realize that it's not just them; that the predator has struck more than once, and they now have corroboration from other victims. We saw this effect with the Bill Cosby rape accusations.

A third is that people have limits. And even if the person keeps the assault to herself, and determines to just put it behind her and get on with her life, hearing her assaulter say on stage in front of the whole country "I've never done that" might push her past her limit.

But everyone ultimately has their own reasons. Again, as we saw with Bill Cosby, sometimes people wait a long time - but that alone does not diminish their credibility.

[rehmwa 2]

billvon

...... We saw this effect with the Bill Cosby rape accusations.

A third is that people have limits. And even if the person keeps the assault to herself, and determines to just put it behind her and get on with her life, hearing her assaulter say on stage in front of the whole country "I've never done that" might push her past her limit.

But everyone ultimately has their own reasons. Again, as we saw with Bill Cosby, sometimes people wait a long time - but that alone does not diminish their credibility.

it would have been entertaining if instead of writing "Bill Cosby" you would have left it ambiguous as "Bill C".

just to see the outrage and indignant responses you could generate

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[billvon 3,132]

>it would have been entertaining if instead of writing "Bill Cosby" you would
>have left it ambiguous as "Bill C".

Dang, I should have thought of that.

[nolhtairt 0]

Bill Cosby can choke to death on his own dick.

What a hypocritical imbecile and rapist he is.

[billvon 3,132]

Update - Trump says he would not have assaulted Natasha Stoynoff because she is so ugly. (Picture of her ugliness attached.) From a recent speech:

"Look at her. . . . You tell me what you think. I don't think so."

Not sure how saying he would only assault really beautiful women helps him, though.

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

What's really funny is that Trump is threatening to sue the New York Times over the story about this.

Gotta love the line in the letter to Trump's lawyer:

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The essence of a libel claim, of course, is the protection of one’s reputation. Mr. Trump has bragged about his non-consensual sexual touching of women. He has bragged about intruding on beauty pageant contestants in their dressing rooms...

...Nothing in our article has had the slightest effect on the reputation that Mr. Trump, through his own words and actions, has already created for himself.

Full Story

And for Yoink:

I'm not surprised in any way that none of these assaults were reported when they happened. They weren't "full rape", just groping (not that it's not still sexual assault and/or battery).
There was no evidence, no witnesses. It would have been their word against Trump's. With his money and legal team, there's virtually no chance of a conviction.
They legitimately feared reprisals from Trump.

"There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy

"~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo

[billvon 3,132]

>What's really funny is that Trump is threatening to sue the New York Times over
>the story about this.

Also from their response (which is perfect) -

"We did what the law allows: We published newsworthy information about a subject of deep public concern. If Mr. Trump disagrees, if he believes that American citizens had no right to hear what these women had to say and that the law of this country forces us and those who would dare to criticize him to stand silent or be punished, we welcome the opportunity to have a court set him straight."

[Elisha 1]

billvon

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Without corroborating evidence from the time of the assault (charges, letters etc.) even a anti-Trump person like myself has to ask 'well why didn't any of these people say something at the time?'

Well, a few reasons.

One was described by Trump himself. When you're a star, they let you get away with it.

Another is that female victims of assault fear they will be slut-shamed when they accuse a man of assault (indeed, Trump is doing this now.) Thus they may tend to remain quiet, and hope it all blows over. Until they realize that it's not just them; that the predator has struck more than once, and they now have corroboration from other victims. We saw this effect with the Bill Cosby rape accusations.

A third is that people have limits. And even if the person keeps the assault to herself, and determines to just put it behind her and get on with her life, hearing her assaulter say on stage in front of the whole country "I've never done that" might push her past her limit.

But everyone ultimately has their own reasons. Again, as we saw with Bill Cosby, sometimes people wait a long time - but that alone does not diminish their credibility.

Fourth reason: people get emotionally charged very easily. If they were possibly on the fence, these anecdotes could sway them to not vote for him.

[jclalor 12]

rehmwa

Other public political figures who were abusive....Grover Cleveland

According to Abe Simpson: "When I was a pup, we got spanked by Presidents till the cows came home. Grover Cleveland spanked me on two nonconsecutive occasions."

That's my first favorite Abe Simpson quote, I believe that's from when Bush Senior moves in across the street.

[NewGuy2005 53]

yoink

The problem is that even if these allegations DID happen (and I'd guess that many probably did), they lose all credibility in being announced at this particular time in this particular way.

I disagree. It make sense that it is coming out now. "The seal has been broken" and now the contents of the bottle will come pouring out.

[quade 4]

My only problem is all of these need to be verified.

I'm more than willing to give every woman the benefit of the doubt, but . . . I personally know a woman who claims she was one of the original 1954 Mouseketeer (verifiably untrue) and I think most of us know the one who claimed to get a death bed confession from her husband about being DB Cooper.

I'm absolutely not saying all of the claims being made by the Trump accusers are false and I'm in NO WAY sticking up for Donald Trump, but . . . Munchousen is also a real thing too. People attach themselves to celebrities for the purposes of self aggrandizement.

If any of us have ever questioned the authenticity of accusations made against somebody we like, say Bill Clinton, then we HAVE to also question all these accusations as well.

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[faulknerwn 38]

As having been a person who has been groped and otherwise accosted (not by Trump) I always tried by best to get away and avoid the person in the future. Trying to prove to a court that I got inappropriately grabbed was going to be a he said - she said and I had no proof. And the people who did it to me weren't even rich and powerful or had any sort of control over my life. I felt it was pointless to report them.

But if one of those people had been Trump, and I had witnessed him on television about bragging about groping women, walking in on them naked, it would have pissed me off. Especially when he started talking that is was all talk and not true. At that point I may have gained the courage to come forward.

At the time it happened - police would have done nothing. Doubtful even a newspaper would have published an article - after all he was on television bragging about walking in the locker rooms..

Michelle Obama's speech on the subject was amazingly powerful. You explained many women's views far better than me.

[Nataly 38]

For sure, each claim needs to be investigated. Because these women may *all* be liars. But the worrisome thing is that their stories seem in line with what he said himself... That, coupled with the well-known fact that most victims *don't* speak up...

Well, it doesn't look good...

"There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse."
- Chris Hadfield
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- my boss

[rushmc 23]

http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/caught-video-clinton-staffers-talk-about-grabbing-ass-committing-voter-fraud

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[headoverheels 334]

rushmc

http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/caught-video-clinton-staffers-talk-about-grabbing-ass-committing-voter-fraud

Ya got nothin' there. Nothing.

[normiss 906]

Insultingly weak.

[rushmc 23]

quade

My only problem is all of these need to be verified.

I am impressed.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

normiss

Insultingly weak.

What is really insulting is your double standard.

But then that has been on display here for years.

One thing we do know.

ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, The Washing on Times and the Boston Globe are in collusion with the Clinton campaign. That fact is no longer is debatable. Therefore, ANY claims or charges they do make are highly suspect.

But then, how else would Clinton keep believers like yourself in locked step!

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln