Released DNC Emails

[ryoder 1,590]

kallend

Yep!

But outsiders should not whine if they don't like the rules or the way they are implemented ignored. If you want to sit at the table you have to have a stake in the game.

FIFY.

So back to your country-club analogy: I assume you have no problem if you join the club, pay the dues, and then the club tells you the dues don't cover what the contract says they cover?

But the club will tell you that since you only recently joined, you aren't a real club-member, and don't have a stake in the game.

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[turtlespeed 226]

kallend

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Of course, for a lot of people, the idea that the party leadership and not the voters deciding ("anoint" has been used) who will be the candidate flies in the face of the idea of "democracy."

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A political party is not a government organization or an arm of government in any way. It is a private association of individuals who agree (more or less) on promoting a common purpose.

There is absolutely no reason a party should manage its affairs according to democratic (or any other) principles.

I still fail to see why non-members are allowed to vote on party matters, any more than non-members of my local country club can vote on its officers.

Great - so cheating, lying, and abuse of power is good then, mmmmkay.

I see why you want Hillary elected.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[turtlespeed 226]

When will people wake up and realize that it is not so much that there was a hacked email server - it's what those emails represent.

1) HRC private email account couldn't have been breached - except it was.

2) look at it this way - You have a suspicion that your significant other is cheating on you, so you ask to see their phone - they run to the bathroom lock the door and delete 90% of their text and emails - then hand the phone to you and say "See, I have nothing to Hide!"

3) Trump is just as bad.

4) If the DNC email could be hacked - - what makes Hillary think that her private server was secure?

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[kallend 2,148]

ryoder

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Yep!

But outsiders should not whine if they don't like the rules or the way they are implemented ignored. If you want to sit at the table you have to have a stake in the game.

FIFY.

So back to your country-club analogy: I assume you have no problem if you join the club, pay the dues, and then the club tells you the dues don't cover what the contract says they cover?

But the club will tell you that since you only recently joined, you aren't a real club-member, and don't have a stake in the game.

Agreed.

The issue is whether Bernie had in fact "paid his dues" to the party he had so steadfastly refused to join for decades.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[kallend 2,148]

turtlespeed

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Of course, for a lot of people, the idea that the party leadership and not the voters deciding ("anoint" has been used) who will be the candidate flies in the face of the idea of "democracy."

.

A political party is not a government organization or an arm of government in any way. It is a private association of individuals who agree (more or less) on promoting a common purpose.

There is absolutely no reason a party should manage its affairs according to democratic (or any other) principles.

I still fail to see why non-members are allowed to vote on party matters, any more than non-members of my local country club can vote on its officers.

Great - so cheating, lying, and abuse of power is good then, mmmmkay.

I see why you want Hillary elected.

As usual, your reading comprehension sucks and you have been taking lessons in logic from rushmc.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[turtlespeed 226]

kallend

*********

Of course, for a lot of people, the idea that the party leadership and not the voters deciding ("anoint" has been used) who will be the candidate flies in the face of the idea of "democracy."

.

A political party is not a government organization or an arm of government in any way. It is a private association of individuals who agree (more or less) on promoting a common purpose.

There is absolutely no reason a party should manage its affairs according to democratic (or any other) principles.

I still fail to see why non-members are allowed to vote on party matters, any more than non-members of my local country club can vote on its officers.

Great - so cheating, lying, and abuse of power is good then, mmmmkay.

I see why you want Hillary elected.

As usual, your reading comprehension sucks and you have been taking lessons in logic from rushmc.

Perhaps you should re-read what you wrote.

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There is absolutely no reason a party should manage its affairs according to democratic (or any other) principles.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[kallend 2,148]

turtlespeed

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Of course, for a lot of people, the idea that the party leadership and not the voters deciding ("anoint" has been used) who will be the candidate flies in the face of the idea of "democracy."

.

A political party is not a government organization or an arm of government in any way. It is a private association of individuals who agree (more or less) on promoting a common purpose.

There is absolutely no reason a party should manage its affairs according to democratic (or any other) principles.

I still fail to see why non-members are allowed to vote on party matters, any more than non-members of my local country club can vote on its officers.

Great - so cheating, lying, and abuse of power is good then, mmmmkay.

I see why you want Hillary elected.

As usual, your reading comprehension sucks and you have been taking lessons in logic from rushmc.

Perhaps you should re-read what you wrote.

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There is absolutely no reason a party should manage its affairs according to democratic (or any other) principles.

As usual, your reading comprehension sucks and you have been taking lessons in logic from rushmc.

...

The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[turtlespeed 226]

kallend

***************

Of course, for a lot of people, the idea that the party leadership and not the voters deciding ("anoint" has been used) who will be the candidate flies in the face of the idea of "democracy."

.

A political party is not a government organization or an arm of government in any way. It is a private association of individuals who agree (more or less) on promoting a common purpose.

There is absolutely no reason a party should manage its affairs according to democratic (or any other) principles.

I still fail to see why non-members are allowed to vote on party matters, any more than non-members of my local country club can vote on its officers.

Great - so cheating, lying, and abuse of power is good then, mmmmkay.

I see why you want Hillary elected.

As usual, your reading comprehension sucks and you have been taking lessons in logic from rushmc.

Perhaps you should re-read what you wrote.

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There is absolutely no reason a party should manage its affairs according to democratic (or any other) principles.

As usual, your reading comprehension sucks and you have been taking lessons in logic from rushmc.

Making it red doesn't make you any more wrong.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[kelpdiver 2]

rehmwa

***I have to wonder if the RNC tried the same thing with Trump.

They really, really, really, really wanted to. That wasn't secret at all. The opportunity never really materialized.


Fox certainly tried in the first debate. Did they act with the RNC, or alone?

Each candidate was asked a question that addressed their most obvious weakness. I'm fairly confident that nearly all of them were told in advance it was coming, so they could put their best foot forward on the matter. If they couldn't, then they needed to be winnowed out of the field immediately.

But I don't think Fox gave the script to Trump. He clearly wasn't prepared for Kelly's question on his history of misogyny. Fox remained quite (fairly, too, IMO) hostile to him until he crossed the 50% hurdle, and then Kelly had to make nice.

If anyone on earth (including Trump) actually believed he would win the nomination, then they would have taken the same sort of concerted actions behind the scenes. But they presumed the problem would work itself out. The joke is on them, and all of us.

I bet Paul Ryan reconsiders his choice to stay clear of it all.

[kallend 2,148]

turtlespeed

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Of course, for a lot of people, the idea that the party leadership and not the voters deciding ("anoint" has been used) who will be the candidate flies in the face of the idea of "democracy."

.

A political party is not a government organization or an arm of government in any way. It is a private association of individuals who agree (more or less) on promoting a common purpose.

There is absolutely no reason a party should manage its affairs according to democratic (or any other) principles.

I still fail to see why non-members are allowed to vote on party matters, any more than non-members of my local country club can vote on its officers.

Great - so cheating, lying, and abuse of power is good then, mmmmkay.

I see why you want Hillary elected.

As usual, your reading comprehension sucks and you have been taking lessons in logic from rushmc.

Perhaps you should re-read what you wrote.

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There is absolutely no reason a party should manage its affairs according to democratic (or any other) principles.

As usual, your reading comprehension sucks and you have been taking lessons in logic from rushmc.

Making it red doesn't make you any more wrong.

See billvon's comment in another thread.

Your repeating the strawman proves that I am, in fact, right.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[turtlespeed 226]

kallend

*********************

Of course, for a lot of people, the idea that the party leadership and not the voters deciding ("anoint" has been used) who will be the candidate flies in the face of the idea of "democracy."

.

A political party is not a government organization or an arm of government in any way. It is a private association of individuals who agree (more or less) on promoting a common purpose.

There is absolutely no reason a party should manage its affairs according to democratic (or any other) principles.

I still fail to see why non-members are allowed to vote on party matters, any more than non-members of my local country club can vote on its officers.

Great - so cheating, lying, and abuse of power is good then, mmmmkay.

I see why you want Hillary elected.

As usual, your reading comprehension sucks and you have been taking lessons in logic from rushmc.

Perhaps you should re-read what you wrote.

Quote

There is absolutely no reason a party should manage its affairs according to democratic (or any other) principles.

As usual, your reading comprehension sucks and you have been taking lessons in logic from rushmc.

Making it red doesn't make you any more wrong.

See billvon's comment in another thread.

Your repeating the strawman proves that I am, in fact, right.

HOLY FUCK - ya'll need separate threads to do this?

WOW.

I didn't know you needed his protection. Go on, go on to your safe space - wait until the scary words pass - then you can come out.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[SkyDekker 1,465]

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HOLY FUCK - ya'll need separate threads to do this?

WOW.

I didn't know you needed his protection. Go on, go on to your safe space - wait until the scary words pass - then you can come out.

You seem to be the rather annoyed one.

Maybe grab that Trump doll and cuddle for a while!

[turtlespeed 226]

SkyDekker

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HOLY FUCK - ya'll need separate threads to do this?

WOW.

I didn't know you needed his protection. Go on, go on to your safe space - wait until the scary words pass - then you can come out.

You seem to be the rather annoyed one.

Maybe grab that Trump doll and cuddle for a while!

Not at all. Kinda like walking up on 10 car pile up - just really surprising and mostly sad.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun