Released DNC Emails

[rushmc 23]

So now we know that some in the DNC and some who work with and for the DNC are

Racists
Bigots
Anti-Semites
and are,
Misogynists.

They collude with the media
to put out false stories
Approve stories before the some media put out stories
Conspire against a candidate to help their favored one

So they are projecting when they claim the Republicans are all that.

You Dems have to be really proud of your party leaders

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

Quote

DNC Email Leaks Show Racist Outreach to Latinos Called “Taco Bowl Engagement”

They like immigrants too it seems!

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

Oh
I forgot

Anti-gay slurs were in those emailstoo!

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[airdvr 210]

Shhh...they're hoping no one notices.

Please don't dent the planet.

Destinations by Roxanne

[winsor 236]

rushmc

Oh
I forgot

Anti-gay slurs were in those emailstoo!

Yoo hoo! I'm not angry!

[brenthutch 444]

It doesn't count because......Russia?

[turtlespeed 226]

brenthutch

It doesn't count because......Russia?

And the promise of positions in the cabinet for some?

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[kelpdiver 2]

brenthutch

It doesn't count because......Russia?

in truth, there's little to prevent the Kremlin from altering the contents that they pilfered. If you're an outfit that employs warehouses of people to post whore on social sites all day (like Russia), that's child's play.

The challenge is altering it so subtly that the author doesn't feel a need to address it with a counter, but enough to score you points.

[nolhtairt 0]

This pretty much says it all, what happened from the DNC emails.

[kallend 2,148]

Fascinating how the same people who were calling Sanders a commie and a misguided socialist (among other names) are the ones so upset that he lost.

...

The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[rushmc 23]

kallend

Fascinating how the same people who were calling Sanders a commie and a misguided socialist (among other names) are the ones so upset that he lost.

That is an interesting point!

But the emails were a lot more than that.

See above.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[normiss 897]

They're ignoring the lost part and substituting it with some emails.

He lost due to votes.
Get over it already. It's not like he was really a democrat in the first place.

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

normiss

They're ignoring the lost part and substituting it with some emails.

He lost due to votes.
Get over it already. It's not like he was really a democrat in the first place.

Well, every time he complained that the party apparatus was being used to discredit him, or to promote HRC, he was called "paranoid" or "crazy". And the party hierarchy denied any bias.

If they had simply said something like: "HRC has been a party stalwart for decades. Bernie is a "Johnny Come Lately" Independent who changed to the Democratic party simply to run for president. Therefore, the party is backing HRC", then that would be one thing.

Of course, for a lot of people, the idea that the party leadership and not the voters deciding ("anoint" has been used) who will be the candidate flies in the face of the idea of "democracy."

So they lied and tried to use those lies to further discredit Bernie.

Not that I'm surprised a whole lot by it. Both parties are turning into huge train wrecks.

"There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy

"~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo

[normiss 897]

Well said.

[ryoder 1,590]

Or as Trevor Noah remarked on "The Daily Show" when pointing out the huge negative ratings both of both Trump and Clinton:

"Both of these people are running against the only other candidate they could possibly defeat."

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[kallend 2,148]

wolfriverjoe

Of course, for a lot of people, the idea that the party leadership and not the voters deciding ("anoint" has been used) who will be the candidate flies in the face of the idea of "democracy."

.

A political party is not a government organization or an arm of government in any way. It is a private association of individuals who agree (more or less) on promoting a common purpose.

There is absolutely no reason a party should manage its affairs according to democratic (or any other) principles.

I still fail to see why non-members are allowed to vote on party matters, any more than non-members of my local country club can vote on its officers.

...

The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[kelpdiver 2]

normiss

He lost due to votes.
Get over it already. It's not like he was really a democrat in the first place.

12 million registered Democrats (43%) apparently felt otherwise. Had they not sabotaged him, how much closer to 50 could he have gotten?

In any event, let's get past this nonsense that he's not a Democrat who declines party affiliation. The party would do well to remember 2000 and the price of ignoring Nader's constituents. They want to take the left's votes for granted as they pivot to the right to grab more of the fence sitting vote (just as the GOP does the same with the Buchanan types).

Sometimes this backfires, as exemplified by the Sanders supporters who want to stop Trump, but not vote for Clinton. We'll see what they actually do in November.

[normiss 897]

We will need to replace congress and institute term limits for starters, before we get anywhere near changing how the elections function.
Both parties, most of the processes, electoral college, and PAC/SuperPAC parts seem in need of tweaking. Some of the silly voter laws in place to keep certain people from voting really should be done away with as well.

We don't seem to be willing to make those investments from what I see.

[kelpdiver 2]

normiss

We will need to replace congress and institute term limits for starters, before we get anywhere near changing how the elections function.

term limits have been a disaster for California. Done at the Federal level...I think we can expect that all senators in their last session will be trading votes for jobs in corporate America. Sign me up as a No for that world.

[ryoder 1,590]

kallend

A political party is not a government organization or an arm of government in any way. It is a private association of individuals who agree (more or less) on promoting a common purpose.

There is absolutely no reason a party should manage its affairs according to democratic (or any other) principles.

How about the party be required to adhere to it's own rules?

DNC Charter, Article 5, Section 4:
The National Chairperson shall serve full time and shall receive such compensation as may be determined by agreement between the Chairperson and the Democratic National Committee. In the conduct and management of the affairs and procedures of the Democratic National Committee, particularly as they apply to the preparation and conduct of the Presidential nomination process, the Chairperson shall exercise impartiality and evenhandedness as between the Presidential candidates and campaigns. The Chairperson shall be responsible for ensuring that the national officers and staff of the Democratic National Committee maintain impartiality and evenhandedness during the Democratic Party
Presidential nominating process.

Source: http://www.demrulz.org/wp-content/files/DNC_Charter__Bylaws_9.11.2009.pdf

A Federal class action lawsuit has been filed against the DNC and Wasserman Schultz alleging fraud, negligent misrepresentation, deceptive conduct, unjust enrichment, breach of fiduciary duty, and negligence. The suit, Wilding et al v DNC Services Corporation and Deborah ‘Debbie’ Wasserman Schultz (Case Number 16-cv-61511-WJZ) was originally filed by the law firm Beck & Lee on June 28, 2016. An amended complaint has subsequently been filed. Jared H. Beck of the law firm has indicated that over 1,000 plaintiffs have thus far signed retainer agreements with his firm in relation to the class action lawsuit.

Source: http://wallstreetonparade.com/2016/07/after-chaotic-weekend-for-democrats-and-wasserman-schultz-a-class-action-lawsuit-lies-ahead/

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[wmw999 2,588]

No, but what wolfriverjoe said still applies. Self-preservation is often a lousy primary goal for any organization, and lying and cheating for ignite wrong. They wanted to look like good guys in service to the country by "letting" Sanders run as a democrat (since they and the republicans have the process effectively monopolized via money), while not actually doing so.

That's an organizational wrong; to me, it's at least as bad as an individual wrong, because it takes collusion.

No, folks, this doesn't mean I'm going to start loving Trump or the republicans. Trump still sucks worse. But since I've said before I'm not voting for Hillary, well, this makes that an easier decision.

One should be honest in taking credit for unpopular decisions.

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[airdvr 210]

I have to wonder if the RNC tried the same thing with Trump.

Please don't dent the planet.

Destinations by Roxanne

[rehmwa 2]

airdvr

I have to wonder if the RNC tried the same thing with Trump.

They really, really, really, really wanted to. That wasn't secret at all. The opportunity never really materialized.

If he'd only had one other opponent, I'm sure the same would have happened as the count would have been closer.

Both cases show the absolute willingness of the two party system to just wallow in corruption.

The Result?

1 - Dems - we get the poster child for the stereotype of the totally corrupt, two faced, career politician that will do anything for power and hates the very people she pretends to want to lead

2 - Reps - TRUMP - I don't think I even need to elaborate on this one

...
Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[kallend 2,148]

ryoder

***

A political party is not a government organization or an arm of government in any way. It is a private association of individuals who agree (more or less) on promoting a common purpose.

There is absolutely no reason a party should manage its affairs according to democratic (or any other) principles.

How about the party be required to adhere to it's own rules?



Yep!

But outsiders should not whine if they don't like the rules or the way they are implemented. If you want to sit at the table you have to have a stake in the game.

...

The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[billvon 3,116]

>There is absolutely no reason a party should manage its affairs according to
>democratic (or any other) principles.

Agreed. But there is a very good reason a party should manage its affairs according to ITS OWN principles - the ones they put on paper, and the ones that all the candidates and delegates agreed to play by.

Don't like the rules? Change them for next year, and run next year's campaign under the new rules. But violating them now just because you don't like a candidate is BS.