RonD1120 62 #1 July 16, 2016 The media focus is on veteran suicide. Most of those deaths, 21 per day, are 50YO+ not our current Iraq/Afghanistan veterans. However, it is the active duty personnel that are overlooked in many articles. I believe depression must be worked out not drugged out. How do you find hope in a hopeless situation? http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/suicide-in-the-military/Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #2 July 19, 2016 RonD1120The media focus is on veteran suicide. Most of those deaths, 21 per day, are 50YO+ not our current Iraq/Afghanistan veterans. However, it is the active duty personnel that are overlooked in many articles. I believe depression must be worked out not drugged out. How do you find hope in a hopeless situation? http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/suicide-in-the-military/ Suicide is the cowards way out. Why put effort into cowards. QuoteHow do you find hope in a hopeless situation? By taking responsibility for your own actions. They just have to work hard enough. Those who don't make it are clearly lazy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cruelpops 0 #3 July 19, 2016 Have you ever had any interaction with someone, anyone, not just military, that ultimately committed suicide? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,589 #4 July 19, 2016 OK, I disagree. It might be for some people, but having read a note, it's not easy either way. I don't have any good answers; I think people are so individual that you have to try a lot of stuff, and accept that most of them won't work for some people, and try to keep them motivated to try another. Yoga, cognitive therapy, drugs, daily or whatever groups, immersion into groups where the patient is needed in a positive and personal way -- there are lots, and I have no idea about others. Whether it's veterans or others, it's serious, and heartbreaking. These are people who can't deal with the pain of living any longer. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #5 July 19, 2016 QuoteOK, I disagree. It might be for some people, but having read a note, it's not easy either way. I thought the sarcasm may have been obvious, but clearly it wasn't. It is there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #6 July 19, 2016 cruelpopsHave you ever had any interaction with someone, anyone, not just military, that ultimately committed suicide? Not after they succeeded.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #7 July 19, 2016 And as a side note, perhaps the most iconic song ever written about suicide, "Suicide is Painless" was written by the 15 year old son of Robert Altman, director of the movie Mash. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #8 July 20, 2016 cruelpopsHave you ever had any interaction with someone, anyone, not just military, that ultimately committed suicide? Yes, as a counselor there have been several, all drug related ODs. In 2003-04 there were five. Two were unexpected and the others would not heed the warnings and offers of help. Those programs did not focus on substance abuse. One was a housing program for the severe and persistently mentally ill and the other was domestic violence.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites