ryoder 1,590 #1 July 15, 2016 https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2016/jul/15/turkey-coup-attempt-military-gunfire-ankara"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 897 #2 July 15, 2016 Given the military presence and the type of weaponry the US has there, this could be a very interesting situation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muff528 3 #3 July 16, 2016 Seems to be over. That was quick! The "Republic" of Turkey may now resume its resolute, inexorable march toward the 7th Century. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,183 #4 July 16, 2016 By the looks of it it was a completely successful coup. "Thousands of judges purged The Turkish government has embarked on a purge of the judiciary following the botched coup, state TV reports, in the first sign of how last night could increase Erdogan's authoritarian rule. NTV said 2,745 judges had been removed from duty, following a decision of the High Council of Judges. Five members of the High Judiciary Court Board were also removed. " http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/16/turkey-coup-president-erdogan-says-military-elements-guilty-of-t/ Turkey had coups in 1960, 1971 and 1980, and a near-coup in 1997. Turkey wants to join the EU. Erdogan will continue to consolidate power, replace secularism with fascism and set aside the ideas of Ataturk. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #5 July 16, 2016 Phil1111 Turkey wants to join the EU. Erdogan will continue to consolidate power, replace secularism with fascism and set aside the ideas of Ataturk. Join the EU? Sounds like they want to join the Ottoman Empire."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muff528 3 #6 July 16, 2016 Phil1111 By the looks of it it was a completely successful coup...... Interesting take on it! The attempted coup and the resultant populist rejection allowed Erdogan to successfully stage a sort of "coup" on his own government (where his authority was somewhat limited), by seizing and consolidating even more authoritarian power. And he did it while on vacay! But here's what is really interesting -- In the past, a deposed leader would either be killed or go into hiding or exile not knowing if he really has enough support, whether from government or from the populace, to regain power. In those cases, the coup might well have been successful. Here, he tapped into social media and, within hours, was able to mobilize his supporters to actively repel the coup and see their successes in real time. He was then able to make his triumphant return to Istanbul. All in one day. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muff528 3 #7 July 16, 2016 ryoder*** Turkey wants to join the EU. Erdogan will continue to consolidate power, replace secularism with fascism and set aside the ideas of Ataturk. Join the EU? Sounds like they want to join the Ottoman Empire. Yeah, I was exaggerating with the 7th C comment. I think Erdogan would be happy stopping somewhere around the 14th or 15th Century. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,588 #8 July 16, 2016 He wants to make Turkey great again, without addressing the reality of the world today. Sound like anyone? Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreeece 2 #9 July 16, 2016 wmw999He wants to make Turkey great again, without addressing the reality of the world today. Sound like anyone? The first part reminds me of Trump. The second part reminds me of Obama.Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
