normiss 896 #126 June 27, 2016 You just had to ask didn't you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #127 June 27, 2016 rushmc Open your mind. There will be HUGE opportunities for those who take a good hard look and understand what is happening Carry on Yup, let me repeat: Your suggestions for HUGE opportunities the Brits have in the Euro zone are: ............................................ ............................................ ............................................ ?? dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #128 June 27, 2016 jakee Quote Nope, I say they are much much smarter than you at least Typical RushMc elitism. Everyone who disagrees with you is a "low information voter" and everyone you agree with is smart enough to see what's going on. Could you be any more arrogant? He's not arrogant - that would need different premises. I'd say, helpless und poorly informed. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #129 June 27, 2016 christelsabine *** Open your mind. There will be HUGE opportunities for those who take a good hard look and understand what is happening Carry on Yup, let me repeat: Your suggestions for HUGE opportunities the Brits have in the Euro zone are: ............................................ ............................................ ............................................ ?? I don't know what they are yet! That is why I said one has to keep an open mind and their eyes open NEITHER of which you seem willing to do"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #130 June 27, 2016 christelsabine *** Quote Nope, I say they are much much smarter than you at least Typical RushMc elitism. Everyone who disagrees with you is a "low information voter" and everyone you agree with is smart enough to see what's going on. Could you be any more arrogant? He's not arrogant - that would need different premises. I'd say, helpless und poorly informed. Of course Anyone would DARE disagree with you or jakee all of that huh?As to his arrogance comment, well, he is projecting yet again."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,595 #131 June 27, 2016 QuoteThey do know the issues IMO. They do know the consequences IMO. What, like the people who voted out because of the Union Flag*, even though by voting to leave they've pretty much guaranteed the eventual exit of Scotland from the UK and maybe even the reunification of Ireland, and therefore the disappearance of that very flag? Yeah, they were right on point weren't they? And still the point stands that no-one knows what the consequences will be. No-one knows what our relationship with the EU will be. No-one knows to what degree, if at all, our borders will be tightened. No-one knows how much money we will keep paying to the EU for access to things like the free market. It's very much a possibility that practically nothing will functionally change in our relationship with the EU except that we give up our ability to vote in it. Heck, it's even a legal possibility that the next Prime Minister won't even invoke Article 50. You can get back to me on that after you've googled what Article 50 is, oh wise and informed one. * Yes, that is absolutely a reason that has been stated by quite a few people voting out.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #132 June 27, 2016 >I don't agree >I give the people more credit than you do. >I believe the vote went as it did because the people WERE informed and did not listen >to the gloom and doom emotions from the stay crowd Top 3 Google searches in the UK right AFTER the vote: What does it mean to leave the EU? What is the EU? Which countries are in the EU? http://www.macleans.ca/politics/worldpolitics/what-were-googles-most-frequent-searches-after-brexit/ Yep. Very informed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #133 June 27, 2016 billvon>I don't agree >I give the people more credit than you do. >I believe the vote went as it did because the people WERE informed and did not listen >to the gloom and doom emotions from the stay crowd Top 3 Google searches in the UK right AFTER the vote: What does it mean to leave the EU? What is the EU? Which countries are in the EU? http://www.macleans.ca/politics/worldpolitics/what-were-googles-most-frequent-searches-after-brexit/ Yep. Very informed. Big picture Bill Big picture Of course there are uncertainties about the details That is what change is"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #134 June 27, 2016 QuoteAs for no one knows? Bull shit! They know they do NOT want what they have right?? Or they would have voted differently. And the fine details may be yet to come but they want out of the EU. A big gov slum lord sucking money. They know what they want now, therefor they know what the consequences are? That is your evidence of being so sure that people no the consequences? Do you have a learning disability? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #135 June 27, 2016 SkyDekker Quote As for no one knows? Bull shit! They know they do NOT want what they have right?? Or they would have voted differently. And the fine details may be yet to come but they want out of the EU. A big gov slum lord sucking money. They know what they want now, therefor they know what the consequences are? That is your evidence of being so sure that people no the consequences? Do you have a learning disability? Now is it a learning disability ?? "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,275 #136 June 27, 2016 QuoteTypical elite speak. The elites are elite because they are so much smarter than you. That's what you are missing.Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #137 June 27, 2016 gowlerkQuoteTypical elite speak. The elites are elite because theythink they are so much smarter than you. That's what you are missing. I inserted what YOU are missing. Seeing how you practice being one of them."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,595 #138 June 27, 2016 Quote Big picture Bill Big picture Exactly, no-one knows what the big picture is. Will we save any of the money we pay to the EU, or will we keep paying it through different channels? No-one knows. Will we be able to stop migrant workers from the EU freely and legally taking jobs in the UK? No-one knows. Will our companies be free from EU legislation in any or all areas relating to workplace conditions and manufacturing standards? No-one knows. Typical of an arrogant elite like you to think that you have all the answers in the face of that uncertaintyDo you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #139 June 27, 2016 jakee Quote Big picture Bill Big picture Exactly, no-one knows what the big picture is. Will we save any of the money we pay to the EU, or will we keep paying it through different channels? No-one knows. Will we be able to stop migrant workers from the EU freely and legally taking jobs in the UK? No-one knows. Will our companies be free from EU legislation in any or all areas relating to workplace conditions and manufacturing standards? No-one knows. Look You are in the first of 4 stages regarding change. how you deal with this step will determine if you can come back from this (for you) horrendous change. BTW BIG picture is Briton may not be a part of the EU. See That was not so hard now was it"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #140 June 27, 2016 >Big picture Bill >Big picture >Of course there are uncertainties about the details >That is what change is So - someone votes to leave the EU. And to you, the fact that they don't know what the EU is, or who is in it, is a detail. But people who support the ACA are ignorant because they didn't read every page of it. Par for the RushMC course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #141 June 27, 2016 billvon>Big picture Bill >Big picture >Of course there are uncertainties about the details >That is what change is So - someone votes to leave the EU. And to you, the fact that they don't know what the EU is, or who is in it, is a detail. But people who support the ACA are ignorant because they didn't read every page of it. Par for the RushMC course. Actually this is typical billvon Throw more shit in and see what sticks. BTW are you saying that the majority of those who vote to leave did not what the EU is or who is in it? Really? Bill We have people here in the US who cant tell you who the President is. Is that the majority too in your mind or would they just be the outliers you would drag in to try and obfuscate a point?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #142 June 27, 2016 >We have people here in the US who cant tell you who the President is. Correct. And let's say those people vote in a presidential election. Would you call them low-information voters? Or would you claim that the names of the people they are voting for are just unimportant details? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 896 #143 June 27, 2016 Which Briton? That word CLEARLY does not mean what you think it means. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #144 June 27, 2016 normiss Which Briton? That word CLEARLY does not mean what you think it means. And I CLEARLY could not give less of a fuck what you think. I will bet even YOU understands what I posted here "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,148 #145 June 27, 2016 normissWhich Briton? That word CLEARLY does not mean what you think it means. Of course it does. He took a Six Sigma course. His posts are quality controlled.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 896 #146 June 27, 2016 This is yet another example of just how ignorant some people can be, nothing more. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,595 #147 June 27, 2016 Quote BTW BIG picture is Briton may not be a part of the EU. Yes, may. We don't even know that for sure yet. Quote See That was not so hard now was it So let's make this clear - you think the populace was fully informed about the consequences of the vote because they knew that if we voted out of the EU, we would leave the EU... and that's it? That's the sum total of the awareness of potential consequences that means, in your eyes, they were fully informed? Everything else is just minor details, is that right? Typical of an elitist like you - you think you know what's best for other people so it doesn't matter if they know what's going onDo you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #148 June 27, 2016 I hate to address the consequences of Brexit, but this gives me pause. If this is into what the EU was slated to morph, it may be good that the UK got out while the going was good. Looking at the unsustainable debt that is the norm for maintaining our lifestyle, the questions regarding things going to hell are limited to when and how bad. Thus, if Brexit is what sets the spark off, doing otherwise may have only delayed the inevitable. Given that we are set for implosion, leaving the EU may be both the worst and the best thing the UK could do - worst since it triggers the upheaval, and best since it will not necessarily go down with the EU as a result. Sometimes pontoon mooring, with vessels lashed alongside, is the most stable arrangement. However, when conditions go to hell and one of the craft is taking on water, it can be best to cut free and go it alone. You may still sink, but you are not doomed by another craft going under. The relative merits of Brexit are as yet undetermined. I do suspect that it may well be the black swan that results in a lot of reorganization on a global scale. Enjoy yourself - it's later than you think. BSBD, Winsor Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mirage62 0 #149 June 27, 2016 Quote I KNOW that my portfolio has shed so much value since Thursday evening through to this morning, it equates to almost three decent homes within 30 minutes of Skydive AZ. And I am NOT part of the damned 1%. I'm sorry but if you lost THAT much value you either need someone to better manage your money or you are in the 1% (or very close). Houses at 200k x 2.5 ("almost three decent houses") =$500,000 loose. I don't believe the market overall is down 10%. So if you have a NW of $5,000,000....... Maybe some diversification is in order? Now might be a good time to buy.....Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,595 #150 June 27, 2016 Quote I hate to address the consequences of Brexit, but this gives me pause. Ahh the Express. Bastion of journalist integrity. So in that article they're claiming the anti-federalist Poles are terrified by the plans of the French and Germans to unite the EU into one state.... and here is their article from a few days ago claiming that Brexit could have huge consequences for the next elections in anti-EU France and lukewarm Germany, while the strongly pro-EU Poles are terrified that more nations could follow the UK's lead and leave! So in short, I wouldn't pay too much heed to that story until it's reported in a real newspaperDo you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites