Pretty soon they will have the Orlando shooting . . .

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mirage62

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It's a tough call for those that have to make it for several reasons.

Read through the info....I just don't see how this was such a hard call. I personally believe the guy had more sexual confusion.....but he did make the comments....plus it was already reported. To me it was poorly played and APPEARS to be more of an attempt to minimize the fact that a terrorist attack took place.

Such is exactly why I made the comment about workplace violence.

Everyone at Ft Hood knew it was a terrorist attack.
It was political gaming that changed the terminology.
They simply tried to get it past us again.
It didn't work the time.

Hell - if the left he their way, it would be brought down to bullying.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
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SkyDekker

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The issue is trying to not fall into the post 9/11 trap and coming out guns blazing with no plan

Part of the motivation for radicalization in this case may have been the dislike of Muslims and the actual or perceived bad treatment of Muslims in the US.

Yes the people in the nightclub were being mean to Islam, by being gay.

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Which is rather odd given that that allah dude created them like the white jebus dude does.
Why do they churn out something they hate?
It must be torture for a believing family to suffer the wrath of their leader with his damnation on them.

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brenthutch

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The issue is trying to not fall into the post 9/11 trap and coming out guns blazing with no plan

Part of the motivation for radicalization in this case may have been the dislike of Muslims and the actual or perceived bad treatment of Muslims in the US.

Yes the people in the nightclub were being mean to Islam, by being gay.

Sticking your head in the sand is a very effective way to ensure this will happen again.

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>Yes the people in the nightclub were being mean to Islam, by being gay.

They were being mean to HIM by rejecting him.

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billvon

>Yes the people in the nightclub were being mean to Islam, by being gay.

They were being mean to HIM by rejecting him.

Apparently there was not 100% rejection - after barebacking with someone who was reportedly HIV positive, the motive may have been payback.

Much though I loathe Islam, I am not under the illusion that it is the only pathology to which a Muslim may be subject.

In this case, the perp appeared to hate gays - to include himself. Suicide is the sincerest form of self criticism, and he seems to have chosen to take quite a group with him.