SkyDekker 1,465 #26 May 27, 2016 QuoteI experimented with substances as a substitute for alcohol and to fit in with skydivers. Maybe in stead of working on the substance abuse issues, you should have been working on the strong desire to fit in with a small subset of the population. You have exchanged one addiction for another one, while still doing anything to fit in. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #27 May 27, 2016 I don't know about that being a heterosexual. I was trained primarily in Gestalt and Rogerian Therapies. Later, Reality Therapy, Transactional Analysis, Sensitivity Training and in the last program, Cognitive Behavioral Therapy. Did you experience Conversion Therapy?Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #28 May 27, 2016 Everyone has a tribe.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RMK 3 #29 May 27, 2016 RonD1120 I was trained primarily in Gestalt and Rogerian Therapies I don't about this Rogerian therapy you mention above; is it the same meaning as the cut/paste below: rogering In British slang it means to have anal sex, usually between two men. : "I gave him a good rogering" "Pain is the best instructor, but no one wants to attend his classes" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #30 May 27, 2016 RonD1120 I was trained primarily in Gestalt and Rogerian Therapies. Later, Reality Therapy, Transactional Analysis, Sensitivity Training and in the last program, Cognitive Behavioral Therapy. Surely you can see the irony of you claiming to be trained in sensitivity therapy! RonD1120 Did you experience Conversion Therapy? No. But I'm not the one who said I wasn't straight 34 years ago.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #31 May 27, 2016 Sensitivity training is a joke, liberal BS.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #32 May 27, 2016 RonD1120Sensitivity training is a joke, liberal BS. Until someone wishes you "Happy Holidays" in December. Then there's a war on Christmas.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #33 May 27, 2016 >Sensitivity training is a joke, liberal BS. Unless you: -call someone a climate change denier. Then their feelings are hurt and they demand you use a more sensitive term, like alternately-theoried climactistist. -let people choose their own bathrooms. Then you have to be sensitive to the feelings of the poor women exposed to these FREAKS! -say "happy holidays." Then you will be called to task on your insensitivity and disregard of our Christian heritage. -let people choose who to love. Then you hate the sanctity of marriage. One thing you will learn with time is that right wingers are every bit as full of shit as left wingers. They just call their shit different names. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #34 May 27, 2016 billvon>Sensitivity training is a joke, liberal BS.< One thing you will learn with time is that right wingers are every bit as full of shit as left wingers. They just call their shit different names. No argument there, true that. But, you have to choose a side. Only a wuss tries to be PC and ride the fence.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,589 #35 May 27, 2016 No, you don't have to choose a side. One might not want to for a whole lot of reasons. Not knowing enough, or at least being willing to discuss it politely with people one disagrees with Not caring enough Simply being polite by nature. Don't mistake polite language for a lack of resolve Understanding that just because something is true for me doesn't make it true for you. Or any other person. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #36 May 27, 2016 >No argument there, true that. But, you have to choose a side. No, you don't. You don't need to adopt someone else's opinions and positions just because they're popular. Think for yourself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #37 May 27, 2016 If you don't think you have chosen a side then you are just fooling yourself.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,589 #38 May 28, 2016 Your inability to imagine something doesn't make it impossible. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #39 May 28, 2016 wmw999 No, you don't have to choose a side. One might not want to for a whole lot of reasons. Not knowing enough, or at least being willing to discuss it politely with people one disagrees with Not caring enough Simply being polite by nature. Don't mistake polite language for a lack of resolve Understanding that just because something is true for me doesn't make it true for you. Or any other person. Wendy P. Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 898 #40 May 28, 2016 No, you're fooling yourself thinking you must. FYI, I am straight, although my sexual preference is really none of your business, just like the gay guy in the bathroom with you. (rest area on I-75 today, 2 gay men with their 2 sons, in the bathroom, no exposed genitals, nobody checking birth certificates, everyone did their business and left, without a single law to sort it out) I LOVE beer more than you love your god, so no. :D I'm always clean. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #41 May 28, 2016 >If you don't think you have chosen a side then you are just fooling yourself. It took me years to realize that the "sides" represent nothing but their own interests. If they have managed to convince you that their doctrines are your only options - they have won. (But if you think you really have to choose a side - would you choose atheism or polytheism?) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,151 #42 May 28, 2016 RonD1120Straight, clean and sober for 33 years. Can you make that claim? So in only 37 MORE years you will match me.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #43 May 28, 2016 kallend***Straight, clean and sober for 33 years. Can you make that claim? So in only 37 MORE years you will match me. How did you qualify for a Freak Brother number?Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #44 May 28, 2016 billvon>If you don't think you have chosen a side then you are just fooling yourself. It took me years to realize that the "sides" represent nothing but their own interests. If they have managed to convince you that their doctrines are your only options - they have won. (But if you think you really have to choose a side - would you choose atheism or polytheism?) You certainly give the impression that you favor big government. You don't believe it is right for people to ban together with like interests. You have chosen the progressive liberal side. It's OK, it has been prophesied.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #45 May 28, 2016 normiss I LOVE beer more than you love your god, so no. :D I'm always clean. I used to be like you. I loved mood altering substances as well. I wanted to be cool. Then one day, all of a sudden, out of the clear blue sky, I was unemployed, divorced and homeless. Denial is not a river in Africa.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,277 #46 May 28, 2016 QuoteI used to be like you. I loved mood altering substances as well. I wanted to be cool. Then one day, all of a sudden, out of the clear blue sky, I was unemployed, divorced and homeless. Hundreds of millions of people in this world consume such substances as part of life without suffering what you went through. Hundreds of millions of people have faith without believing the extremes that you believe. It is possible that the problem lies within you and not within them.Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #47 May 28, 2016 gowlerkQuoteI used to be like you. I loved mood altering substances as well. I wanted to be cool. Then one day, all of a sudden, out of the clear blue sky, I was unemployed, divorced and homeless. Hundreds of millions of people in this world consume such substances as part of life without suffering what you went through. Hundreds of millions of people have faith without believing the extremes that you believe. It is possible that the problem lies within you and not within them. That is absolutely correct. My problem is my problem. I took responsibility for it and did something about it. Some of us get victory over our problem and would like to share the joy. Why does that bother you? Maybe you have an undefined problem and can't figure it out. Maybe not, maybe your life in Canadia is so perfect that you believe you have the right to judge all others, especially Americans. Maybe....Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #48 May 28, 2016 RonD1120If you don't think you have chosen a side then you are just fooling yourself. So the wusses who are riding the fence instead of choosing a side are only fooling themselves because they have chosen a side? This is getting complicated already!Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #49 May 28, 2016 Makes sense to me.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,277 #50 May 28, 2016 QuoteMaybe not, maybe your life in Canadia is so perfect that you believe you have the right to judge all others, especially Americans. Maybe.... Maybe you are a little touchy about criticism of your country. For the record despite it's flaws I see America as a great place filled with great people. It's you, not I, who seems to hold large numbers of Americans in disdain. Also for the record, I do recognize that a large part of what makes Canada great is it's close relationship to it's southern neighbors. I was actually pointing out your embrace of extremes in your life. Like many, you have overcome substance dependence with a substitute. I agree you are better off now than you were then. But your journey may be incomplete. QuoteWhy does that bother you? Maybe you have an undefined problem and can't figure it out. Maybe I do, but I haven't figured it out so I don't know. I do know what bothers me about your positions. It is the hostility you express toward those who are not like you. It has nothing to do with your country. But go ahead, wrap yourself with your flag and call me a hater.Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites