turtlespeed 226 #276 September 3, 2016 skycopMilwaukee records deadliest month in 25 years http://www.wrn.com/2016/09/milwaukee-records-deadliest-month-in-25-years/ QuotePolice took in 211 guns last month, bringing the total collected this year to 1,600. He said relaxed penalties for those who carry a concealed weapon without a permit are contributing to the problem. “Milwaukee is a firearm rich environment. Making…conceal carry illegally a misdemeanor no matter how many times you`re arrested is foolish,” Flynn said.interesting commentI'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycop 0 #277 September 3, 2016 More evidence http://ijr.com/2016/09/685151-after-police-pull-back-and-gangs-take-over-streets-murder-rate-in-chicago-blows-past-2015-totals/?utm_campaign=bencarson&utm_medium=partners&utm_source=facebook&utm_term=prm6 "Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #278 September 4, 2016 skycopMore evidence http://ijr.com/2016/09/685151-after-police-pull-back-and-gangs-take-over-streets-murder-rate-in-chicago-blows-past-2015-totals/?utm_campaign=bencarson&utm_medium=partners&utm_source=facebook&utm_term=prm6 I actually appreciate the irony, the fact that the police are pulling out of the areas. Why exasperate a Social Justice Movement quandary that NO ONE can possibly satisfy. The problem (most) will eventually take care of it self, if left alone. Any action, even INACTION, will not be correct, it's a catch 22 - there is no winning. BLM was set up that way. Evidence? Look at all the community action groups under the name of BLM there are working on the actual reason for the majority of the deaths they are reacting to.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycop 0 #279 September 4, 2016 Evidence of the title of this thread. People in the effected areas will have enough, then things will change, and putting the genie back into the bottle ain't gonna be easy, or pretty. "Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #280 September 6, 2016 skycopEvidence of the title of this thread. People in the effected areas will have enough, then things will change, and putting the genie back into the bottle ain't gonna be easy, or pretty. Nah, just typical bullshit and so common. People refusing to do their jobs and blaming other people for it. Cops throwing little temper tantrums like toddlers. A little accountability and they get upset. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycop 0 #281 September 6, 2016 QuoteNah, just typical bullshit and so common. People refusing to do their jobs and blaming other people for it. Cops throwing little temper tantrums like toddlers. A little accountability and they get upset. A well thought out statistical analysis as usual. A reporter tries to surprise a Sheriff in Florida, fortunately he picked the wrong guy for a "gotcha" moment. It pokes holes in all the false narratives being promoted by the media. https://www.facebook.com/noahpransky/videos/10154551853697518/?hc_location=ufi "Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #282 September 6, 2016 QuoteA well thought out statistical analysis as usual You have provided the statistics. You say it is based on officers reaction to recent events. You blame the events and the media for the officers not doing their job as well. All I am saying is that in stead of blaming everything around them, maybe just do their jobs and take some responsibility. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #283 September 6, 2016 SkyDekker Nah, just typical bullshit and so common. People refusing to do their jobs and blaming other people for it. Refusing to go out and get shot - gee - I wonder why? Perhaps there is a better allocation for their time than taking up space in a hospital or a morgue. Or are you one of those that believe a cops only function is to be a target for criminals? Eventually, BLM will have to address the REAL problem. Until they do - they are making it worse. They know that - that is their goal.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #284 September 6, 2016 QuoteRefusing to go out and get shot - gee - I wonder why? Perhaps there is a better allocation for their time than taking up space in a hospital or a morgue. I'll use the same hyperbole: Stop going out and shooting civilians without justification. (and don't get caught on camera doing something opposite of the story you have concocted with your "brothers") Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #285 September 6, 2016 SkyDekkerQuoteRefusing to go out and get shot - gee - I wonder why? Perhaps there is a better allocation for their time than taking up space in a hospital or a morgue. I'll use the same hyperbole: Stop going out and shooting civilians without justification. (and don't get caught on camera doing something opposite of the story you have concocted with your "brothers") That only makes sense if it is the "job" of the public to aim and fire weapons at the police.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #286 September 6, 2016 Why? Is the reverse the job of police? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #287 September 6, 2016 SkyDekkerWhy? Is the reverse the job of police? I'm not sure. You tell me. Is the reverse the job of the police? Perhaps you can explain your question a little better.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycop 0 #288 September 6, 2016 QuoteStop going out and shooting civilians without justification. (and don't get caught on camera doing something opposite of the story you have concocted with your "brothers") Does this happen? It does, but in less than .001% of police contacts. MILLIONS of police contacts, yet you, the media, and other groups are leading the charge with false narratives. Did you watch the interview with the Sheriff? We don't want "bad cops" anymore than you do. But a "good cop" is one controversial incident away from being a "bad cop". There is an 86 page DOJ report saying that Darren Wilson was not a "bad cop", yet his professional life is ruined. In this argument, facts no longer matter. Read the narratives, then tell me about how bad cops are. You can cherry pick a very small number, but ignore the vast majority of others. The Sheriff in the video summed up my thoughts almost to the letter. https://www.facebook.com/noahpransky/videos/10154551853697518/?hc_location=ufi https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/police-shootings/ "Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #289 September 6, 2016 QuoteDoes this happen? It does, but in less than .001% of police contacts. MILLIONS of police contacts, yet you, the media, and other groups are leading the charge with false narratives. I even stated it was hyperbole. Do you guys not read before you get triggered? Need a safe place? QuoteRead the narratives, then tell me about how bad cops are. You can cherry pick a very small number, but ignore the vast majority of others. That leaves out a whole lot of cops who stand by and do nothing. I think cops call it accessory to, or aide and abet. Once you wear a badge it is called job security and supporting your "brothers". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycop 0 #290 September 6, 2016 QuoteDo you guys not read before you get triggered? Need a safe place? Hyperbole, it's all you have; safe space, hardly. QuoteThat leaves out a whole lot of cops who stand by and do nothing. It's relevant to the false narratives, just keep repeating it, that'll make it true. Remember the whole hyperbole thingy...... "Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,595 #291 September 6, 2016 QuoteThere is an 86 page DOJ report saying that Darren Wilson was not a "bad cop", Right, and 86 page DOJ report that you reject as a politically motivated hatchet job, so I'm not exactly sure how you think you can use it to support your argument on this while rejecting everything else it says?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycop 0 #292 September 6, 2016 QuoteRight, and 86 page DOJ report that you reject as a politically motivated hatchet job, so I'm not exactly sure how you think you can use it to support your argument on this while rejecting everything else it says? I'm speaking specifically to the use of force of Officer Wilson. You must have missed the numerous comments I've made on revenue-neutral policing and the (mis)use of municipal/mayors courts. Which was evidently the case in Ferguson Missouri. But it's okay. "Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #293 September 6, 2016 skycopQuoteThat leaves out a whole lot of cops who stand by and do nothing. It's relevant to the false narratives, just keep repeating it, that'll make it true. Remember the whole hyperbole thingy...... You mean like the false narrative in Chicago? Where pretty much the entire chain of command signed off on the report/fairy tale... All the cops on scene, all the cops who saw the video (except for the one who "snitched" anonymously), all the members of the "Review" (whitewash) Board who exonerated him... Until the day before the video was to be released, when the cop was charged with 1st degree murder. I won't disagree with the claim that it's a very small percentage who are "bad actors". But the "Blue Wall of Silence" is very real."There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycop 0 #294 September 6, 2016 QuoteBut the "Blue Wall of Silence" is very real. I agree, but not nearly to the extent promulgated by the media and "activist" groups. Listen to the comments by the Sheriff of Polk County Florida I posted earlier in this thread. He speaks directly to these issues, his thoughts mirror mine and 99% of the cops I know. There are agencies (I would argue elements within those agencies) which have a culture that needs to change, I agree. But those are few and far between, and the stats prove it. But again, the truth in recent history really doesn't matter. Ask Darren Wilson. "Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #295 September 6, 2016 wolfriverjoe***QuoteThat leaves out a whole lot of cops who stand by and do nothing. It's relevant to the false narratives, just keep repeating it, that'll make it true. Remember the whole hyperbole thingy...... You mean like the false narrative in Chicago? Where pretty much the entire chain of command signed off on the report/fairy tale... All the cops on scene, all the cops who saw the video (except for the one who "snitched" anonymously), all the members of the "Review" (whitewash) Board who exonerated him... Until the day before the video was to be released, when the cop was charged with 1st degree murder. I won't disagree with the claim that it's a very small percentage who are "bad actors". But the "Blue Wall of Silence" is very real. That get's explained away as one bad apple....and everybody else exaggerates too much.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #296 September 6, 2016 QuoteBut those are few and far between, and the stats prove it. Yes, but the stat for Chicago will read 1 bad cop, where really it was how many bad cops? How many knew what happened or parts of it and knew it was wrong, but said or did nothing? Do you have any stats that include all those officers? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,595 #297 September 6, 2016 skycop Quote Right, and 86 page DOJ report that you reject as a politically motivated hatchet job, so I'm not exactly sure how you think you can use it to support your argument on this while rejecting everything else it says? I'm speaking specifically to the use of force of Officer Wilson. Yeah, that's exactly my point. Quote You must have missed the numerous comments I've made on revenue-neutral policing and the (mis)use of municipal/mayors courts. Which was evidently the case in Ferguson Missouri. Actually yeah, I have missed any post you've made where you have agreed with any criticism of the police in Ferguson. I've only seen the comments you made where you said the people who police the police are all corrupt liars. Which, as I pointed out before, is somewhat ironic.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycop 0 #298 September 6, 2016 QuoteActually yeah, I have missed any post you've made where you have agreed with any criticism of the police in Ferguson. I've only seen the comments you made where you said the people who police the police are all corrupt liars. Then you are simply wrong, again. But that is par for the course. "Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 895 #299 September 6, 2016 Speaking of blue walls. This is the perfect example. There's simply no talking to some of the blue line types at all, it's a direct assault to even question them on anything. Don't ask, just comply. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycop 0 #300 September 6, 2016 QuoteSpeaking of blue walls. This is the perfect example. The truth, it hurts sometimes, especially when it interrupts assumptions and false narratives. But please, refute one thing the Sheriff said in the video. "Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
