Obama’s last act is to force suburbs to be less white and less wealthy

[jakee 1,596]

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You posted a New York Trash Post article by a guy who is flogging a book that claims poor black people caused the 2008 crash and now you're talking about propaganda?

I'm not familiar with the author, or any of his books. Which book are you referring to?

There's a link to buy it at the bottom of the story you posted.

But hey, you heard something you wanted to be true, so why worry if it comes from a biased propagandist who's only out to profit by pandering to the racist fringe?

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If you're interested in that topic, I highly recommend the Senate's report on it:

Your guy from the OP thinks the Senate report is a pack of lies.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[GeorgiaDon 380]

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So the title of the thread you started was written by whom, leprechauns?

It's the title of the article in the newspaper.

I'm quite certain you are capable of writing an informative title of your own, instead of copying/pasting an obvious appeal to racist sentiment. The issue you raise is worth discussing, but it doesn't help to cloak it in terms that conflate the real issues with blatant racist drivel.

Don

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[GeorgiaDon 380]

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What do you think should be done in the meantime with/for the people who currently qualify for section 8 housing, the people you apparently do not want messing up your upscale white neighborhood?

Expect some form of personal responsibility from them, and expect them to get a job at some point.

When is "at some point"? What should be done with people in the meantime?

I don't disagree that there can be issues with section 8 tenants. My daughter lived in a nice townhouse complex that changed dramatically when the management changed and a lot of section 8 families moved in. In that case I think part of the issue was that it wasn't one or two families, it quickly changed to where 3 out of 4 townhouses had section 8 tenants. When you get that situation the "mood" of the neighborhood changes in a negative way.

I recall a discussion a long time ago where there was a consensus that creating communities where everyone is "on the dole" is a bad idea, as kids grow up without seeing adults going to a job, and everyone just comes to accept living that way as "normal". I vaguely recall that you participated in that discussion, though I may be wrong. Anyway I think most people would agree that creating communities where no-one has a job, where most households are single parent, etc just creates "Welfare University" campuses that grow the next generation of welfare recipients.

One solution is to try to disperse families needing (hopefully temporary) help throughout working communities. That way at least the kids will see their friends in families that support themselve, and will grow up realizing that is normal. Of course that means that sometimes you might find yourself neighbor to such a family. One consequence of NIMBYism is that the is no choice left other than to warehouse all the section 8 families together and create those welfare incubators.

I suppose another alternative might be to bring back debtor's prisons and indentured servitude for the kids. Some might see that as preferable.

Don

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Tolerance is the cost we must pay for our adventure in liberty. (Dworkin, 1996)
“Education is not filling a bucket, but lighting a fire.” (Yeats)

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Another solution would be to make sure they get a decent education. The poor areas tend to have poor performing schools. That's a cycle that needs to be broken, and it looks like charter schools are setting a good precedent for that.

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[StreetScooby 5]

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But hey, you heard something you wanted to be true,

Have you been reading my other posts, about HUDs radical attempts to force this into Westchester communities? It's not something I want to be true, it's happening now.

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[jcd11235 0]

StreetScooby

Another solution would be to make sure they get a decent education. The poor areas tend to have poor performing schools. That's a cycle that needs to be broken, and it looks like charter schools are setting a good precedent for that.

If only there was a way to make that happen.

"The voucher program’s performance in broadening housing choices for participants can profoundly affect children’s long-term well-being. Research finds that children whose families used vouchers to move to low-poverty neighborhoods when they were young were more likely to attend college, less likely to become single parents, and earned significantly more as adults. In addition, adults who moved to lower-poverty neighborhoods experienced substantial gains in mental and physical health."

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[jakee 1,596]

StreetScooby

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But hey, you heard something you wanted to be true,

Have you been reading my other posts, about HUDs radical attempts to force this into Westchester communities? It's not something I want to be true, it's happening now.

No it isn't. At least not in the way your article says it will happen. Because your article specifically says it is something that is going to be done, months in the future, in a way that it is not being done now.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?